# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42927 "2020-04-26T23:35:41Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> It’s (_gasp!_) already been considered. Remember those statues of him naked called “The Emperor Has No Balls”?  
> Article with photo. Warning: Not Suitable for Sentient Eyeballs. Brain Bleach Required. Once seen, you can’t un-see it.
> 
> [The Emperor Has No Balls](https://thewpsa.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/the-emperor-has-no-balls-virility-masculinity-and-the-american-presidency/)

If forced to bet, I’d bet that statue is fairly accurate. (Though I’d guess Trump has put on a few more pounds since it was created.)

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> What bothers me, Deborah, is that [you have become part of the problem:](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494700-birx-it-bothers-me-trump-comments-on-injecting-disinfectant-still-in)
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> > Asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper if Trump’s comments from the Thursday White House briefing bothered her, Birx said, “I think it bothers me this is still in the news cycle.”

What bothers her is that she’s right there on camera saying NOTHING as Trump spouts genuinely-dangerous nonsense.

Birx’s posturing of being Concerned about “the news cycle” is pure defensiveness. She knows she’s trashed her own reputation.

These people all fall into the trap of believing they can Make a Difference by remaining in place; all they end up doing is legitimizing the crazy.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42928 "2020-04-26T23:49:16Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> …What bothers her is that she’s right there on camera saying NOTHING as Trump spouts genuinely-dangerous nonsense.

If she had stood up and said “That’s bullshit” she would have been fired by Trump as she will be anyway, but could have written her own ticket.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42929 "2020-04-27T00:00:37Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> What bothers her is that she’s right there on camera saying NOTHING as Trump spouts genuinely-dangerous nonsense.
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> Birx’s posturing of being Concerned about “the news cycle” is pure defensiveness. She knows she’s trashed her own reputation.

She lost all credibility with me a few weeks ago, when she told the press how deeply Trump studied the technical reports. I don’t know, maybe she needs a new swimming pool or something.

It’s just amazing to me how otherwise intelligent people keep supporting Trump. I saw Chris Christie on a Sunday morning show the other day, and even he’s still carrying water for Trump, after he got absolutely nothing for his embarrassing ass-kissing during the campaign. Unless maybe Trump killed any further investigations into Bridgegate.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42930 "2020-04-27T00:15:57Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> …It’s just amazing to me how otherwise intelligent people keep supporting Trump. I saw Chris Christie on a Sunday morning show the other day, and even he’s still carrying water for Trump, after he got absolutely nothing for his embarrassing ass-kissing during the campaign. Unless maybe Trump killed any further investigations into Bridgegate.

Or, more likely, killed them temporarily----holding the possibility of resumption over Christie’s head. (Though I suppose the statute of limitations on abuse-of-office would factor in.)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42931 "2020-04-27T01:16:11Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Nobody puts a gun to the heads of those who become part of Trump’s team of enablers and apologists. They do it voluntarily because of arrogance (that they can control him) or the desire for self aggrandizement and personal gain. I think that even the best of them, like Fauci, fell victim to arrogance that he could make a difference. He did, briefly. But ultimately he was used to lend some veneer of legitimacy and is likely now being discarded because he did not play along. We’ve all seen this play out for 4 years now. I don’t know how many more times we have to see this before realizing that the only way to put an end to this perverse kakistocracy is to root it out of office and bring it finally to justice.

And let’s not forget the enablers in the Senate as well.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42932 "2020-04-27T01:34:39Z")

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Mike Larsen is a Dem trying to knock off Jim Jordan this year, so he’d have my support no matter what. But his tweet yesterday sealed the deal:

“Say what you will about Donald Trump, but injecting bleach and shining sunlight up our butts is the most detailed Republican replacement for Obamacare I’ve heard so far.”

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42933 "2020-04-27T01:43:22Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If she had stood up and said “That’s bullshit” she would have been fired by Trump as she will be anyway, but could have written her own ticket.

I wonder what he’d have done if she’d simply started to giggle uncontrollably, shaking her head, and then finally stood up, looked him straight in the eye and said, “You’re out of your fucking mind,” and walked out of the room.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42934 "2020-04-27T02:27:57Z")

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Political cartoonist Michael De Adder just posted another cartoonist’s work where the caption said, “Stop – that Trump cartoon you came up this morning just happened.” And he said, “this literally just happened to me.”

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42935 "2020-04-27T06:36:56Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If she had stood up and said “That’s bullshit” she would have been fired by Trump as she will be anyway, but could have written her own ticket.

Really, that’s what all the reporters should do, too. Just call his bullshit out and walk away. Everyone should do that, and just leave the child alone with no one to listen to his bullshit anymore.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42936 "2020-04-27T13:18:43Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> See if you can guess who is being described in this [paragraph](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/george-wallace-donald-trump/607336/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+TheAtlantic+%2528The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%2529). You probably think you know, but “The politician I speak of is, of course, George Corley Wallace.”

One problem with that: George Wallace was a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42937 "2020-04-27T14:12:40Z")

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[Here’s an interesting article on Steve Mnuchin.](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/steven-mnuchin-coronavirus-bailout.html) Especially interesting is how he earned his nickname ‘Foreclosure King’ circa 2009: He propelled himself to great wealth by illegally evicting homeowners, apparently relying on the difficulty and expense of pursuing financial crimes, especially with the big backlog of potential prosecutions during that crisis.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42938 "2020-04-27T14:37:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Political cartoonist Michael De Adder just posted another cartoonist’s work where the caption said, “Stop – that Trump cartoon you came up this morning just happened.” And he said, “this literally just happened to me.”

This happened to cartoonist Dan Perkins (AKA Tom Tomorrow). Here’s his entry from today (April 27 2020):

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> This was supposed to be a cartoon about the rise and fall of Trump’s fixation with hydroxychloroquine, but literally minutes after I finished writing a first draft, he held his now-infamous press briefing and mused aloud, "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs.” I’ve had to rewrite a lot of cartoons at the last minute over the past three years, as Trump does something dumber than you would have imagined possible up until the moment he actually does it, but this may be the first time he literally acted out a cartoon-in-progress before my eyes.

> **[Daily Kos: Comics](https://www.dailykos.com/blog/Comics/)**
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> Comics at Daily Kos

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42939 "2020-04-27T15:53:12Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> One problem with that: George Wallace was a Democrat.

The Democrats of that era have morphed into today’s Republicans. But you knew that already, right?

Are you old enough to remember when the [Solid South](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South) (Democrats) became Republican?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42940 "2020-04-27T15:55:28Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> This happened to cartoonist Dan Perkins (AKA Tom Tomorrow). Here’s his entry from today (April 27 2020):
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> > [@](#):
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> > This was supposed to be a cartoon about the rise and fall of Trump’s fixation with hydroxychloroquine, but literally minutes after I finished writing a first draft, he held his now-infamous press briefing and mused aloud, "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs.” I’ve had to rewrite a lot of cartoons at the last minute over the past three years, as Trump does something dumber than you would have imagined possible up until the moment he actually does it, but this may be the first time he literally acted out a cartoon-in-progress before my eyes.
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> [Daily Kos: Comics](https://www.dailykos.com/blog/Comics/)

How [faithless and fickle](https://twitter.com/JimJordanJacket/status/1253506079532756999) il Doofus is!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42941 "2020-04-27T15:56:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The Democrats of that era have morphed into today’s Republicans. But you knew that already, right?

Right, but he never completely morphed. Best he could manage was going Independent, ergo applying “the Republican Party has been taken over by an unscrupulous populist demagogue” to George Wallace is a misleading statement.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42942 "2020-04-27T16:12:58Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> One problem with that: George Wallace was a Democrat.

Racist demagogue bomb-throwers can be found everywhere, and can put any letter after their name.

But a key difference between the two: Wallace ran for President as an independent; Trump has taken over the Republican party.

ETA: Ninja’d, to some extent. I think the point is valid that Wallace and Trump are clones in terms of their priorities and behavior. The difference is in their relationship to their respective parties.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42943 "2020-04-27T16:34:15Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I think the point is valid that Wallace and Trump are clones in terms of their priorities and behavior. The difference is in their relationship to their respective parties.

No argument there. I’m just saying that the opening paragraph, particularly the first sentence, is a trick.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42944 "2020-04-27T17:04:34Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> ETA: Ninja’d, to some extent. I think the point is valid that Wallace and Trump are clones in terms of their priorities and behavior. The difference is in their relationship to their respective parties.

Right, to the extent that 45 has priorities beyond grift and power, they are racism and xenophobia. Policies beyond this are fungible and can be discarded selectively tweet by tweet.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42945 "2020-04-27T17:18:38Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Right, to the extent that 45 has priorities beyond grift and power, they are racism and xenophobia. Policies beyond this are fungible and can be discarded selectively tweet by tweet.

There aren’t a lot of good things to say about George Wallace, but I think we can say that he probably wasn’t a crooked grifter con man.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42946 "2020-04-27T17:54:47Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> It’s (_gasp!_) already been considered. Remember those statues of him naked called “The Emperor Has No Balls”?
> 
> Article with photo. Warning: Not Suitable for Sentient Eyeballs. Brain Bleach Required. Once seen, you can’t un-see it.
> 
> [The Emperor Has No Balls](https://thewpsa.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/the-emperor-has-no-balls-virility-masculinity-and-the-american-presidency/)

How is the brain bleach to be administered? Orally, rectally, subcutaneously, or topically over my pupils? I looked that the photo, so I need an answer immediately.

BTW, I happen to have nine quarts of 6% bleach for which I have no need, so if any Trumpists need some to drink, they are welcome to purchase from me, but they will have to provide their own containers and getting it across the border will be their problem, for I’m not shipping a dangerous good to a country that has already pegged mine as a national security risk.

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