# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2148
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42947 "2020-04-27T18:47:29Z")
> > [@](#): > > /Seung Min Kim > @seungminkim > Oh wow: per > @jonkarl > , “The Secret Service tells the WHCA they were not involved whatsoever in this effort by the WH to change seating assignments” despite a White House official telling today’s pooler he needed to switch seats with CNN and that the Secret Service was involved > 7:48 PM · Apr 24, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Trump does not like one of the more inquisitive TV press members (well to be fair to the portly pumpkin, he hates hates hates one more than the hates many of the others), so he tried to get her moved to the back of the room and have a less vocal text press member take her seat. Both of them refused. The secret service denies involvement, but the White House asserts the contrary. So which is it? Trump’s Shite House lying, or the Secret Service lying? It’s one or the other or both. Whichever it is, the Secret Service being directed directly or indirectly by Trump to quelch the White House Press Corp’s seating authority is one hell of a thing re. the 1st Amendment. I also wonder how the Secret Service diplomatically told Trump via his staff that it would not intervene, how much this ignoring of Trump’s authority might have been one of the contributing factors resulting in Trump’s most recent infantile tantrum of ceasing press conferences, and if it now has Trump – the personal loyalty or purge Trump – getting paranoid about the loyalty of the Secret Service, a la tin pot dictators prior to their being forcibly removed. What’s going on inside Trump’s mind? Paranoia? Megalamania? Chirping Crickets? ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42948 "2020-04-27T18:51:41Z")
On the lighter side, [here’s another new video from “Founders Sing”.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvGkB4bdryQ&lc=z23mvvhwgqytyxii504t1aokgmie0inuxp3vyzoqd4ezrk0h00410) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42949 "2020-04-27T19:05:47Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Trump does not like one of the more inquisitive TV press members (well to be fair to the portly pumpkin, he hates hates hates one more than the hates many of the others), so he tried to get her moved to the back of the room and have a less vocal text press member take her seat. Both of them refused. The secret service denies involvement, but the White House asserts the contrary. > > So which is it? Trump’s Shite House lying, or the Secret Service lying? It’s one or the other or both. Whichever it is, the Secret Service being directed directly or indirectly by Trump to quelch the White House Press Corp’s seating authority is one hell of a thing re. the 1st Amendment. Yeah, from a professional pride view point, the Secret Service isn’t going to want to get involved in that. If the correspondent is a risk to the President’s safety, she’ll be removed entirely. Beyond that, seating assignments aren’t (or shouldn’t be) their problem. Of course, Trump doesn’t give a shit about the actual roles of various groups under his purview. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42950 "2020-04-27T19:10:11Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > There aren’t a lot of good things to say about George Wallace, but I think we can say that he probably wasn’t a crooked grifter con man. FWIW, Wallace renounced and apologized for his former segregationist views later in his life. Personally, as much as I loathed him, he would be preferable to the present unmitigated disaster. Wallace at least had some degree of competence. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42951 "2020-04-27T19:24:50Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > …What’s going on inside Trump’s mind? Paranoia? Megalamania? Chirping Crickets? [This is what’s going on.](https://sciencemonday.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dsc_5904_edited-1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42952 "2020-04-27T19:38:33Z")
Remember when Individual 1 said that the Iran treaty was canceled? Well, apparently, it’s only canceled when it comes to the US, but when it comes to Iran and the rest of the world, apparently Individual 1 and his Secretary of State think it still applies to them. > **[Team Trump now plans to argue U.S. didn't withdraw from Iran nuclear deal...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/27/1940753/-Team-Trump-now-plans-to-argue-U-S-didn-t-withdraw-from-Iran-nuclear-deal-after-all-sort-of)** > > In his role as Donald Trump's do-little secretary of state, Mike Pompeo has appeared to devote most of his diplomacy to trolling the rest of the world on Donald's behalf. Such is the case yet again, as Pompeo prepares to unveil a new argument that... ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42953 "2020-04-27T20:02:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Remember when Individual 1 said that the Iran treaty was canceled? Well, apparently, it’s only canceled when it comes to the US, but when it comes to Iran and the rest of the world, apparently Individual 1 and his Secretary of State think it still applies to them. > [Team Trump now plans to argue U.S. didn't withdraw from Iran nuclear deal after all ... sort of](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/27/1940753/-Team-Trump-now-plans-to-argue-U-S-didn-t-withdraw-from-Iran-nuclear-deal-after-all-sort-of) Wow. And to think that Trump “wrote” a book called _The Art of the Deal._ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42954 "2020-04-27T23:22:34Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Wow. And to think that Trump “wrote” a book called _The Art of the Deal._ You, along with everyone else, missed the fine print, the very fine print (the best print). The actual and complete title of that thing is _The Art of the Deal With It_, “It” of course referring to the crap he’s always pulled and is continuing to pull now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42955 "2020-04-27T23:44:14Z")
Rethinking my post above, it probably is better, as in more appropriate, as follows. > [@JKellyMap](#): > > Wow. And to think that Trump “wrote” a book called _The Art of the Deal._ You, along with everyone else, missed the fine print, the very fine print (the best print). The actual and complete title of that thing is: _The Art of the Forcing of You to Deal With It_, “It” of course referring to the crap he’s always pulled and is continuing to pull now. Remember, folks; if you want to understand what’s happening with that jackass in the White House, all you have to remember is that toddlers do not change their own diapers. Too often, they take the things off and fling poo everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42956 "2020-04-28T06:49:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [This is what’s going on.](https://sciencemonday.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dsc_5904_edited-1.jpg) 😃 That’s just a picture if his big fat putrefacient mouth and tonsils. There’s no brain behind that. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42957 "2020-04-28T06:54:28Z")
Trump has gained notoriety for corrupting (nearly) everyone who crosses paths with him. But as far as I’ve seen, the Secret Service (and Tiffany) has stayed above it all – at least, there haven’t been any known scandals with them yet. Will this remain so? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42958 "2020-04-28T08:33:17Z")
The tangerine twerp simply [cannot stop lying](https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/04/103_288617.html): > [@](#): > > Trump says he knows how North Korean leader is doing but can’t talk about it yet My favorite part of this article is: > [@](#): > > I do have a very good idea, but I can’t talk about it now. I just wish him well. I’ve had a very good relationship with Kim Jong-un. Had, huh, you piece of crap? So, basically you also think he’s kicked the can. That’s one dictator down. Two when you’re out of office. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42959 "2020-04-28T11:28:11Z")
I doubt he’s lying - he probably just read (or had read to him) the briefing on Kim. I’m just surprised he’s managing to not blab about it, although he’s presumably forwarded it on to Vlad. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42960 "2020-04-28T14:20:58Z")
Of course he’s lying. He’s incapable of telling the truth. Hell, he hopes every time he opens his mouth, his minions, flunkies, and worshipers will run with his blather and make it go viral. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42961 "2020-04-28T14:51:31Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [This is what’s going on.](https://sciencemonday.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dsc_5904_edited-1.jpg) Too generous. After all, you can do _something_ with pepitas. [This](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgiphy.com%2Fgifs%2Ftumbleweed-2JUwr3tnfiQJa&psig=AOvVaw0fYHmBxZ99TwwQ6E88wxHY&ust=1588171493168000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCKi83YCui-kCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAX) is more likely. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42962 "2020-04-28T15:05:15Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I doubt he’s lying - he probably just read (or had read to him) the briefing on Kim. > > I’m just surprised he’s managing to not blab about it, although he’s presumably forwarded it on to Vlad. Trump is no doubt thinking about opening casinos in North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42963 "2020-04-28T15:23:10Z")
An Op-Ed in the New York Times now claims that there was a deliberate cover-up about CoVID-19 for five days > **[New York Times op-ed: Trump and friends didn't just 'ignore' COVID-19, they...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941003/-They-didn-t-just-ignore-COVID-19-they-engaged-in-a-cover-up-NYTimes-Op-Ed?utm_campaign=trending)** > > Much ink has been spilled to more than amply demonstrate that, when it came to the threat of the novel coronavirus, the Trump administration ignored its own intelligence, its own CDC, and the urgent warnings of the medical community, from as early... > [@](#): > > Ryan Goodman, a professor at NYU, and Danielle Schulkin, a student, conclude in an Op-Ed published in the New York Times that the administration’s actions went well beyond mere “negligence” and trying to “wish” the pandemic away: rather, for a five-day period in late February and early March they engaged in a deliberate and malicious cover-up of its seriousness for the sole purpose of intentionally misleading the American people. > > … > > hey knew it was serious, they knew it would or could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans. But they continued to lie to our faces. As Goodman and Schulkin state, this was not simply a case of “flat-footedness” or simply “time lost.” In reality, “Over the last five days of February, President Trump and senior officials did something more sinister: They engaged in a cover-up.” > > … > > What did the administration do in response to Director Messonnier’s very public, very embarrassing warning? They lied, intentionally and knowingly. Trump’s rationale was that he didn’t want to “upset” the stock market. Of course, a full-blown pandemic was likely to sink the only thing holding his re-election chances above the water line. So he decided to concoct a panoply of phony assurances, and his collaborators, Kudlow, Esper and Azar, were only too happy to oblige. That very afternoon, Azar came out and flatly stated it: “Thanks to the president and this team’s aggressive containment efforts” he said, coronavirus “is contained.” > > Same afternoon, Kudlow came out and said the virus was “contained.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42964 "2020-04-28T15:28:33Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I doubt he’s lying - he probably just read (or had read to him) the briefing on Kim. > > I’m just surprised he’s managing to not blab about it, although he’s presumably forwarded it on to Vlad. He was practically hopping up and down and singing/chanting “I know a seee-cret…I’m not gonna tee-eelll…” ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42965 "2020-04-28T16:14:27Z")
Congrats republicans, the federal government is an abject failure. You win? ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42966 "2020-04-28T16:20:10Z")
Now trump wants schools to open. I guess so more of the proletariat can go back to the mines. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2147) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2149)