# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2150
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42987 "2020-04-28T21:02:45Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > According to our friends at _Daily Kos_, Mayo tweeted to Pence regarding their policy, which he ignored. Then, they deleted the tweet. > > [The Mayo Clinic told Pence to wear a goddamned mask in the hospital. He refused](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941096/-Pence-embodies-GOP-COVID-19-denial-by-refusing-to-wear-a-damn-mask-in-a-damn-hospital) There is a thread over in Elections about replacing Pence, and how Trump probably can’t do it. If he gets real sick and/or dead from Covid-19 though, that solves the problem. [/conspiracy theory] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42988 "2020-04-28T21:06:52Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Today, Mike Pence visited the Mayo Clinic and interacted with patients; I think they were COVID-19 patients. The Mayo Clinic has a 100% “you must wear a mask” rule in place. > > Pence didn’t wear a mask. He was the only one there not wearing a mask. And he was elbow bumping with lots of people, so you know he \*also \*wasn’t maintaining a 6-foot distance, either. And this from a man who believes you can catch cooties. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42989 "2020-04-28T21:13:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > How is this supposed to work? > > I mean, if everyone who works at a plant becomes ill and cannot work, how is the executive order going to change that? This is only phase one. In phase two, Trump is going to mobilize some troops and order them to go out and shoot down some cows. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42990 "2020-04-28T21:17:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > This is only phase one. In phase two, Trump is going to mobilize some troops and order them to go out and shoot down some cows. Ridiculous. Cows aren’t shot down; they’re sunk. ---
**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42991 "2020-04-28T21:18:17Z")
From today’s Washington post: [The U.S. plans to lend $500 billion to large companies. It won’t require them to preserve jobs or limit executive pay.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/28/federal-reserve-bond-corporations/?utm_campaign=wp_evening_edition&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_evening) But I’m sure this’ll end well. After all, > [@](#): > > the administration is relying on the good will of the companies receiving this assistance To be fair, that quote is from someone at the IMF, not Trump himself. However: > [@](#): > > Democrats asked for restrictions on how companies can use the money from the central bank’s bond purchases but were rebuffed by the administration during negotiations about the Cares Act, said a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42992 "2020-04-28T21:23:33Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Today, Mike Pence visited the Mayo Clinic and interacted with patients; I think they were COVID-19 patients. The Mayo Clinic has a 100% “you must wear a mask” rule in place. > > Pence didn’t wear a mask. He was the only one there not wearing a mask. And he was elbow bumping with lots of people, so you know he \*also \*wasn’t maintaining a 6-foot distance, either. I think they were plasma donors, so supposedly people who’ve had the virus and recovered. Still not cool. We don’t even know for sure if the recovered can get it again yet. Somebody probably told him not to wear a mask lest the stock market freak out. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42993 "2020-04-28T21:26:55Z")
> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#): > > From today’s Washington post: > > [The U.S. plans to lend $500 billion to large companies. It won’t require them to preserve jobs or limit executive pay.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/28/federal-reserve-bond-corporations/?utm_campaign=wp_evening_edition&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_evening) > > But I’m sure this’ll end well. This is such BS plus I thought Congress was supposed to have the purse. This is a blatant kickback from trump to big business using taxpayer money . ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42994 "2020-04-28T21:38:17Z")
> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#): > > From today’s Washington post: > > [The U.S. plans to lend $500 billion to large companies. It won’t require them to preserve jobs or limit executive pay.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/28/federal-reserve-bond-corporations/?utm_campaign=wp_evening_edition&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_evening) Why does this remind me of a child trying to buy someone’s friendship? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42995 "2020-04-28T21:42:54Z")
Hey, just remember: the real problem is the extra $600/week that some people on unemployment are getting. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42996 "2020-04-28T21:50:53Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Congrats republicans, the federal government is an abject failure. You win? Corona means you don’t even need a bathtub - the government will drown in its own mucus. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42997 "2020-04-28T21:58:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Hey, just remember: the real problem is the extra $600/week that some people on unemployment are getting. And making sure those greedy city employees get their pensions defaulted on. /s ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42998 "2020-04-28T22:01:25Z")
> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#): > > From today’s Washington post: > > [The U.S. plans to lend $500 billion to large companies. It won’t require them to preserve jobs or limit executive pay.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/28/federal-reserve-bond-corporations/?utm_campaign=wp_evening_edition&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_evening) > > But I’m sure this’ll end well. After all, > To be fair, that quote is from someone at the IMF, not Trump himself. However: If my math is right, he could have given every full time worker in the us a little more than $3,800 each for this amount of money, assuming 130 million full time workers. > **[Number of full-time employees U.S. 2023 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/192356/number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-usa-since-1990/)** > > The number of full-time employees returned to pre-pandemic levels in 2022 after a sharp decline in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42999 "2020-04-28T22:51:57Z")
> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#): > > If my math is right, he could have given every full time worker in the us a little more than $3,800 each for this amount of money, assuming 130 million full time workers. > > [Number of full-time employees U.S. 2023 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/192356/number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-usa-since-1990/) But that would just be “_free money_”\* (which is not character-building) and would put the country squarely on the slippery slope of SOCIALISM!! Giving people money, health care, food, survival above a subsistence level, when they’ve done nothing to EARN it?? If God cared about those people, He wouldn’t have made them poor! Who do you think we are anyway-- SWEDES? (And by that, I don’t mean rutabagas.) - Cf. Unca Moscow Mitch “Let Them Eat Cake” McConnell ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43000 "2020-04-28T23:30:13Z")
Here is a hearty _FUCK YOU_ to each and every one of you that said “Don’t worry, Trump can’t win, and even if he does he will do no real damage because he will be totally ineffective.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43001 "2020-04-29T01:39:59Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Here is a hearty _FUCK YOU_ to each and every one of you that said “Don’t worry, Trump can’t win, and even if he does he will do no real damage because he will be totally ineffective.” Oh, man. That is a painful memory. All those posts saying what you’ve got here, as well as ‘_he’ll be totally bored within a month and will quit!_’ and ‘_the GOP establishment won’t let him get away with anything–everything will just stay the same as it’s always been, so what’s the big deal if he gets in?_’ And then when he got the Oval, it was all ‘_you’ve got to give him a chance, everyone deserves a chance!_’ and ‘_he is going to become Presidential after this_’ and ‘_you’re over-reacting, he’s just the same-old same-old, nothing ever changes._…’ Some of it was cynical–written by those rooting for chaos in the US. But way too much of it was posted in all seriousness. Appalling. Appalling stupidity and malice. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43002 "2020-04-29T06:22:12Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Somebody probably told him not to wear a mask lest the stock market freak out. Scary optics, indeed. When asked about it afterwards, Mike - who suddenly has a big thing now for eye contact - [tried to foist something specious](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847570879/pence-responds-to-critics-after-not-wearing-face-mask-at-mayo-clinic) about how he’s tested frequently, which apparently has granted him superhuman immunity in those petri dish environments so he can elbow-rub his way into reassuring the base that all this corona stuff should’ve blown over by now. Even if he’s tested daily, the entitled religiopath has been non-social-distancing, maskless, prior to entering the Mayo, making him, hmmmm, a scumbag vector. > [@elucidator](#): > > According to our friends at _Daily Kos_, Mayo tweeted to Pence regarding their policy, which he ignored. Then, they deleted the tweet. > > [The Mayo Clinic told Pence to wear a goddamned mask in the hospital. He refused](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941096/-Pence-embodies-GOP-COVID-19-denial-by-refusing-to-wear-a-damn-mask-in-a-damn-hospital) > [@](#): > > fine link comment from **Glen the Plumber:** > kinda hard to kiss trump’s ass with a mask on. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43003 "2020-04-29T07:34:50Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Scary optics, indeed. When asked about it afterwards, Mike - who suddenly has a big thing now for eye contact - [tried to foist something specious](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847570879/pence-responds-to-critics-after-not-wearing-face-mask-at-mayo-clinic) about how he’s tested frequently, which apparently has granted him superhuman immunity in those petri dish environments so he can elbow-rub his way into reassuring the base that all this corona stuff should’ve blown over by now. Even if he’s tested daily, the entitled religiopath has been non-social-distancing, maskless, prior to entering the Mayo, making him, hmmmm, a scumbag vector. Hey, Mikey Pee. So, you’re gettting tested for corona virus all the time. What about all the other crud you could be inflicting on those folks in the hospital, you moron? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43004 "2020-04-29T12:27:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > How is this supposed to work? [Trump to sign order keeping meat processing plants open](https://apnews.com/67cb4bad7ffe500beabdf8e7e7efea5d).I mean, if everyone who works at a plant becomes ill and cannot work, how is the executive order going to change that? 😕 Union busting at its finest. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43005 "2020-04-29T12:30:37Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > This is such BS plus I thought Congress was supposed to have the purse. This is a blatant kickback from trump to big business using taxpayer money . Congress puts money in the purse, and since Republicans control the senate, they can use their power as leverage to determine how much gets put in, and how it’s supposed to be spent. And then, the executive branch decides how it’s spent (and who gets the goodies, and when). ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43006 "2020-04-29T12:47:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Here is a hearty _FUCK YOU_ to each and every one of you that said “Don’t worry, Trump can’t win, and even if he does he will do no real damage because he will be totally ineffective.” Can I piggy back on this fuck you to all the people who said “don’t worry, I lived through the sixties, that was a truly turbulent time, you’re overreacting to Trump.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2149) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2151)