# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2152
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43027 "2020-04-29T19:58:16Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > One time is much, much worse and people’s reluctance to see the extent of the problem before us is a huge part of the problem. Complacency, inattention, willful ignorance and selfishness from the boomer generation has left our nation in shambles. You not only pulled the ladder up behind you, poured gasoline on us and lit a match. Ah, I get it now. There must be a great debate thread around here somewhere, with a title like “Baby Boomers: Worst Generation Ever or Merely Horrible?” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43028 "2020-04-29T19:59:59Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I think they were plasma donors, so supposedly people who’ve had the virus and recovered. Still not cool. We don’t even know for sure if the recovered can get it again yet. Somebody probably told him not to wear a mask lest the stock market freak out. He does seem to have a thing about[not following the rules](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/08/mike-pence-touches-nasa-equipment-right-next-to-do-not-touch-sign) when he visits places. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43029 "2020-04-29T20:12:58Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > He does seem to have a thing about[not following the rules](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/08/mike-pence-touches-nasa-equipment-right-next-to-do-not-touch-sign) when he visits places. Or just _[fuck your stinkin’ traditions](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vp-pence-arrives-on-mackinac-with-eight-vehicle-motorcade/ar-AAHDQyO)_ ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43030 "2020-04-29T20:33:29Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Complacency, inattention, willful ignorance and selfishness from the boomer generation has left our nation in shambles. Okay, non-boomer. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43031 "2020-04-29T21:00:53Z")
We’d just gotten our letter from Donald J Trump telling us how grateful we should be to him. Into the shredder it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43032 "2020-04-29T21:02:08Z")
^Likewise. And fuck the White House for using an IRS envelope. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43033 "2020-04-29T21:04:23Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > Okay, non-boomer. If there isn’t already a thread on “Why the sudden animosity towards Boomers??”, I’ll start one. It’s a curious and interesting phenomenon. In other words…I’m so lovable; why does everyone hate me? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43034 "2020-04-29T21:05:32Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > We’d just gotten our letter from Donald J Trump telling us how grateful we should be to him. > > Into the shredder it goes. I’ve considered using mine as toilet paper and mailing it back. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43035 "2020-04-29T21:34:50Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I’ve considered using mine as toilet paper and mailing it back. Be careful. It might grab you. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43036 "2020-04-29T22:33:09Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I’ve considered using mine as toilet paper and mailing it back. Please don’t send human feces through the mail (exceptions apply, but they don’t include any situations in which the recipient is the America-hating Fuckstick Administration). TIA. P.S. I don’t actually speak on behalf of the USPS; it’s just a bit of postal regulations trivia I happen to know about. P.P.S. I also don’t know if UPS and FedEx have exactly the same restrictions, so I won’t be making any requests wrt their services. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43037 "2020-04-29T22:40:45Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > P.S. I don’t actually speak on behalf of the USPS; it’s just a bit of postal regulations trivia I happen to know about. > > P.P.S. I also don’t know if UPS and FedEx have exactly the same restrictions, so I won’t be making any requests wrt their services. All those people have a hard enough job at the moment without having to worry about customers deliberately exposing them to biohazardous waste. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43038 "2020-04-29T22:48:38Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > All those people have a hard enough job at the moment without having to worry about customers deliberately exposing them to biohazardous waste. I know; I’m one of the USPS guys (which is why I felt it appropriate to add the disclaimer that I’m not posting as a spokesman). And I really DON’T have any specific knowledge of the restrictions UPS and FedEx place on shippable material. Anecdote: When Michaela returned to New York after her mother’s memorial service, I needed to mail some of her items to her. She also asked for some of **kaylasmom** ’s jewelry and perfumes. The jewelry I was able to mail, but I had to go to the UPS Store to get them to ship the perfumes. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43039 "2020-04-29T22:58:12Z")
Is it okay to send it back with an obscene drawing? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43040 "2020-04-29T23:14:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Please don’t send human feces through the mail (exceptions apply, but they don’t include any situations in which the recipient is the America-hating Fuckstick Administration. So you’re saying animal feces are ok? Cool. Good to know. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43041 "2020-04-30T00:01:49Z")
Getcher [official White House COVID-19 commemorative coin](https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/covid-heroes.htm)! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43042 "2020-04-30T00:02:38Z")
This morbidly curious Canuck looked into this [letter thingy](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/28/coronavirus-trump-letter-stimulus-check-recipients-causes-stir/3040031001/) and I’m like wow you guys are lucky, getting a good hard pat on the back (+shoulder rub?) in the form of this letter! Just trying to imagine him saying “My Fellow Canadians”. > [@](#): > > Olson said adding Trump’s name to the checks and then sending check recipients a letter from him could further damage the credibility of the IRS. The agency is still reeling from accusations that it audited taxpayers on Richard Nixon’s enemies list in the 1970s and reports that it heavily scrutinized conservative groups under the administration of Barack Obama, she said. > > Trump’s letter to taxpayers sows further confusion, Olson said, because it arrives in an envelope from the Treasury Department and the IRS. The envelope notes that postage and fees were paid by the IRS. > > “Just think of the optics of someone receiving a letter that comes in an IRS envelope, and the first thing they see is the letterhead of the president of the United States,” Olson said. “That immediately puts into people’s minds that the IRS is doing the will of the president of the United States and promoting the president of the United States rather than serving as an impartial broker and administrator of the revenue code. > > “That will damage the IRS’s reputation, and it will damage the tax system. I don’t care who is the president of the United States. It doesn’t matter.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43043 "2020-04-30T00:17:19Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Getcher [official White House COVID-19 commemorative coin](https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/covid-heroes.htm)! The podium is empty. How fitting. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43044 "2020-04-30T00:20:50Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Getcher [official White House COVID-19 commemorative coin](https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/covid-heroes.htm)! Dear God in Heaven, tell me that site is sponsored by The Onion. They’re $125 apiece. It CAN’T be for real. Can it? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43045 "2020-04-30T00:21:34Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Getcher [official White House COVID-19 commemorative coin](https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/covid-heroes.htm)! Did you see the other coins in the series? Let me just point out this one: Number 7: Title: GENIUS MAKES ITS OWN RULES with a Monograph "President Donald J. Trump: A Study in Genius“ Words fail me. You can’t make this up. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43046 "2020-04-30T00:29:24Z")
It’s not real [No, the White House is not selling coronavirus-themed commemorative coins for $100](https://www.businessinsider.com/the-white-house-is-not-selling-a-125-coronavirus-coin-2020-4) > [@](#): > > On Wednesday, the Internet stumbled upon what looked like the White House selling decorative coins commemorating the US’ coronavirus response for the price of $100 each, promising to “donate” the proceeds. > > Almost immediately, thousands of angry tweeters accused the White House of profiting off the deadly coronavirus crisis, including Sen. Bernie Sanders. > > But the supposed “White House Gift Shop” coins aren’t made by the White House at all, but by a private, for-profit company that has no connection at all to the federal government. > > Talking Points Memo found in 2018 that the White House Gift Shop was initially created in 1946 and run by the Secret Service Uniformed Division Benefit Fund. > When the fund shut down in 2013, it transferred ownership of the shop to Gianni Strategic Enterprises, a private company incorporated in Pennsylvania and not affiliated with the White House. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2153)