# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43067 "2020-04-30T14:02:27Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Naw. A simple [retirement](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1DqABvvN8) will do.

They could always retire him the way they do with the replicants in **Bladerunner**

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y5yCEdb6Vo)

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43068 "2020-04-30T15:01:36Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> They have a little machine in the basement, and they’ll fix one right up for you. 😃 Like those [Lucky Penny](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Bf36YLsQXG3fxCrtqJWROEgr3tengWEM60KFvvQaIIb4M0fiOxK7JH_3elTDPiU7M1VHMWsWuQJu26tP2w) machines they used to have at carnivals. In fact, that’s probably where all the Lucky Penny machines wound up.

ThelmaLou, those things are all over every tourist destination in the country.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43069 "2020-04-30T15:53:03Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> ThelmaLou, those things are all over every tourist destination in the country.

I don’t get out much. Even less nowadays. 😛

The good news is you, too, can get into the profitable commemorative coin market! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43070 "2020-04-30T15:53:20Z")

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[quote=“CalMeacham, post:43067, topic:774070”]

They could always retire him the way they do with the replicants in **Bladerunner**

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[Moderating]  
Let’s please avoid jokes that appear to advocate shooting the President.

No warning issued.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43071 "2020-04-30T16:17:01Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Ridiculous.
> 
> Cows aren’t shot down; they’re sunk.

Now who’s being ridiculous? If you sink the cow, the meat gets all soggy.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43072 "2020-04-30T17:11:41Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Getcher [official White House COVID-19 commemorative coin](https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/covid-heroes.htm)!

I thought that _had_ to be fake, but it looks real. They also have a commemorative coin for **PRESIDENT TRUMP AND KIM JONG UNLIMITED EDITION**. Yes, the ‘Un’ part of Kim’s name was made part of the ‘limited edition’ phrase.

And why in the hell is he selling his MAGA hats in the White House gift shop??? Isn’t that campaign material?

On edit: O.k. I should have read further. I’m…partly…mollified.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43073 "2020-04-30T18:30:01Z")

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I don’t think this will go the way she planned it: [Pence’s wife says he was unaware of mask policy during visit](https://apnews.com/339c62ee35d5acbc7bcd762ce9dc6005).

:dubious:

:rolleyes:

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — Karen Pence, the wife of Vice President Mike Pence, is defending his decision to not wear a mask during a recent visit to the Mayo Clinic, saying he was unaware of the hospital’s coronavirus policy until after he left.
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> In an appearance on Fox News Channel on Thursday morning, Mrs. Pence said the vice president was following the advice of medical experts and hadn’t intended to offend anyone. Pence, like other senior White House staff, is tested for the virus at least once a week.
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> “As our medical experts have told us, wearing a mask prevents you from spreading the disease. And knowing that he doesn’t have COVID-19, he didn’t wear one,” Mrs. Pence said, adding that it “was actually after he left Mayo Clinic that he found out that they had a policy of asking everyone to wear a mask.”
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> “So, you know, someone who’s worked on this whole task force for over two months is not someone who would have done anything to offend anyone or hurt anyone or scare anyone,” she said.

Yes, Mrs Pence; that’s the issue: people thought he was trying to scare us. :rolleyes:

So lemme get this straight: the Vice-President of the US, who heads the Coronavirus Task Force, didn’t notice that wherever he went, everyone had a mask on, including his own staff? And never thought to ask why absolutely everyone he could see and everyone he interacted with had a mask on but he did not? This guy is in charge of something? Of something important? Why?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43074 "2020-04-30T18:35:02Z")

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> [@Mayo Clinice](#):
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> The Mayo Clinic had tweeted — then deleted — that it had informed the vice president of its “masking policy prior to his arrival.”
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> “Mayo shared the masking policy with the VP’s office,” the health care system later said in its response.

It’s possible (because at heart the clinic is a bureaucracy like any other) that they deleted the tweet because they discovered that they had, in fact, forgotten to inform the VP of the policy.

I’m not saying it is likely, but also not that far out on the range of possible explanations.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43075 "2020-04-30T18:50:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I don’t think this will go the way she planned it: [Pence’s wife says he was unaware of mask policy during visit](https://apnews.com/339c62ee35d5acbc7bcd762ce9dc6005).
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> :dubious:
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> :rolleyes:Yes, Mrs Pence; that’s the issue: people thought he was trying to scare us. :rolleyes:
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> So lemme get this straight: the Vice-President of the US, who heads the Coronavirus Task Force, didn’t notice that wherever he went, everyone had a mask on, including his own staff? And never thought to ask why absolutely everyone he could see and everyone he interacted with had a mask on but he did not? This guy is in charge of something? Of something important? Why?

I could well believe his wife is the one who dresses him for the day…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43076 "2020-04-30T19:06:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> …  
> :rolleyes:Yes, Mrs Pence; that’s the issue: people thought he was trying to scare us. :rolleyes:
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> …

Hell, he scares me with or without the mask.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43077 "2020-04-30T19:10:28Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> It’s possible (because at heart the clinic is a bureaucracy like any other) that they deleted the tweet because they discovered that they had, in fact, forgotten to inform the VP of the policy.
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> I’m not saying it is likely, but also not that far out on the range of possible explanations.

Members of the press pool are saying that they were told by the VP’s staff THE DAY BEFORE, that everybody had to wear masks.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43078 "2020-04-30T19:24:20Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> So lemme get this straight: the Vice-President of the US, who heads the Coronavirus Task Force, didn’t notice that wherever he went, everyone had a mask on, including his own staff? And never thought to ask why absolutely everyone he could see and everyone he interacted with had a mask on but he did not?

This is going to be the standard operating procedure going forward: full-on, complete COVID-19 denial. It’s clear that ordinary people are sacrificial.

It’s the height of patriotic duty to die processing meat even if the employer has no obligation to spend a little more on a safer work facility.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43079 "2020-04-30T20:01:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Members of the press pool are saying that they were told by the VP’s staff THE DAY BEFORE, that everybody had to wear masks.

There goes a perfectly possible explanation. I’m sure they’ll find another one shortly.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43080 "2020-04-30T20:28:25Z")

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At a White House roundtable on coronavirus and the economy, Individual 1 tried to claim that the press is trying to make him look bad by its reports that there are not enough tests being done. The CEO of Hilton hotels contradicted him.  
[https://www.liker.com/public/posts/105597](https://www.liker.com/public/posts/105597)?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43081 "2020-04-30T21:37:13Z")

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What the fuck is “Liker”?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43082 "2020-04-30T21:47:42Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What the fuck is “Liker”?

According to that link:

> [@](#):
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> Welcome to Liker, the smarter social network where likes actually matter.

\<shrug\>

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43083 "2020-04-30T22:18:42Z")

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Why the Toddler-in-Chief is confident that Biden can’t win:

> [@President Pumpkinhead](#):
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> I believe the people of this country are smart. And I don’t think that they will put a man in who’s incompetent.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43084 "2020-04-30T22:59:23Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> [Trump says China wants him to lose his bid for re-election](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-china-exclusive/exclusive-trump-says-china-wants-him-to-lose-his-bid-for-re-election-idUSKBN22C01F). Already starting the setup for his ‘illegitimate’ election loss.

money quote  
“ **I don’t believe the polls. I believe the people of this country are smart. And I don’t think that they will put a man in who’s incompetent.** ”

to his cult, he is the idiot’s idea of a smart guy – and to himself as well, apparently

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43085 "2020-04-30T23:46:53Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> money quote  
> “ **I don’t believe the polls. I believe the people of this country are smart. And I don’t think that they will put a man in who’s incompetent.** ”
> 
> to his cult, he is the idiot’s idea of a smart guy – and to himself as well, apparently

He’s obviously not a student of history—we elect incompetents all the time.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43086 "2020-05-01T00:45:43Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> [Trump says China wants him to lose his bid for re-election](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-china-exclusive/exclusive-trump-says-china-wants-him-to-lose-his-bid-for-re-election-idUSKBN22C01F). Already starting the setup for his ‘illegitimate’ election loss.

I think the governments–and the people–of a lot more countries than just China want that piece of shit to lose in November. Hell, I want him out of office now, dammit!

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> At a White House roundtable on coronavirus and the economy, Individual 1 tried to claim that the press is trying to make him look bad by its reports that there are not enough tests being done. The CEO of Hilton hotels contradicted him.  
> [https://www.liker.com/public/posts/105597](https://www.liker.com/public/posts/105597)?

The press doesn’t have to try to make him look bad. And it’s not the press that’s making him look bad anyway. He’s doing that all by his lonesome.

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