# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43327 "2020-05-10T19:11:47Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> His last words would likely be something along the lines of “I have the best health. I’ve been getting calls from doctors, very respected in terms of medical, they say sir, you’re the healthiest president there’s ever been.”

With tears in their eyes.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43328 "2020-05-10T19:15:41Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Dear Leader is the only one you can trust.

Trump has been social distancing before it was cool. The problem is, he’s always been social distancing from the truth.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43329 "2020-05-10T20:00:33Z")

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There’s distancing, and then there’s straight up divorce.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43330 "2020-05-10T21:14:47Z")

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Pretty darn hard to divorce someone you have never met.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43331 "2020-05-10T21:25:28Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> In other words: don’t trust doctors, don’t trust scientists, don’t trust numbers.

You know they come from Arabs, right?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43332 "2020-05-10T21:30:52Z")

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[**Acin Torabi**](https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544?s=20)  
[INDENT]_…ump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive… This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great_ [/INDENT]

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43333 "2020-05-10T21:53:00Z")

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Individual 1 was going batshit crazy today with the conspiracy theories.

> **[Trump Claims Hillary Behind 'Russian Coup' On Twitter](https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/05/10/trump-claims-hillary-behind-russian-coup-on-twitter/)**
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> The coronavirus pandemic and the Depression-era economy have really started eating at Donald Trump. He pushes his responsibility for dealing with the pandemic off onto the states’ governors. Yet people are not buying Trump’s spiel any longer. That...

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43334 "2020-05-10T22:00:46Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> There’s distancing, and then there’s straight up divorce.

Okay, I laughed. 🙂

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43335 "2020-05-10T22:39:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [**Acin Torabi**](https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544?s=20)  
> [INDENT]_..ump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive… This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great_ [/INDENT]

I swear to god, Trump is fuzzy on the whole disease thing, and what exactly the tests do.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43336 "2020-05-10T23:32:02Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I swear to god, Trump is fuzzy on the whole disease thing, and what exactly the tests do.

On Twitter I saw something like (paraphrasing because I don’t recall the exact tweet):

> [@](#):
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> Katie, she pregnancy-tested not pregnant for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive… This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great

Kind of puts Trump’s moronic failure to understand the “concept of tests” in a new perspective.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43337 "2020-05-11T04:59:27Z")

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Pence is self isolating.  
[Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-10/pence-self-isolating-after-aide-tests-positive-for-coronavirus)?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43338 "2020-05-11T05:09:49Z")

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Defective airport screenings maybe causing another spike in cases? Bah, as long as people can [get going places again!](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/05/09/white-house-push-airport-fever-screenings-overrules-cdc-scientists/3097158001/)

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> The White House is pushing a return to a failed strategy of relying on temperature screening of air travelers to detect coronavirus despite vehement objections from the nation’s top public health agency, internal documents obtained by USA TODAY show.

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> Thermal scanning as proposed is a poorly designed control and detection strategy as we have learned very clearly,”  Dr. Martin  Cetron, the CDC’s director of global mitigation and quarantine, wrote in an email to Department of Homeland Security officials Thursday. “We should be concentrating our CDC resources where there is impact and a probability of mission success.”
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> Cetron questioned his agency’s legal authority to execute the airport plan, ending the email: “Please kindly strike out CDC from this role.”

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43339 "2020-05-11T05:35:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pence is self isolating.  
> [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-10/pence-self-isolating-after-aide-tests-positive-for-coronavirus)?

But one of those quick three-day isolation attempt thingies that only the great shiny-faced ones like Mr. Pence can pull off. Hopefullly a Cone of Silence-like contraption was involved. (“Sorry, chief”)

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> Vice President Mike Pence has been self-isolating from the White House following his press secretary Katie Miller’s diagnosis of Covid-19 on Friday, said three people familiar with the situation. A spokesman said he’d be back at the White House on Monday.

Was gonna post about it earlier, but encountered articles like this (further updated) [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/10/politics/mike-pence-self-isolate-coronavirus/index.html) one, with this somewhat flimsy offering:

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> The official said Pence’s schedule will probably be on the lighter side in the coming days, but that he’s not doing a full self-quarantine.

Not doing a full self-quarantine? Another one of those DeLuxe Three-dayers, starting tomorrow, and then see what way the wind blows? Looks like His Boss’s “we’ll see what happens” mantra might be a fave of MP’s.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43340 "2020-05-11T06:01:15Z")

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Could be a stalling maneuver. Give a three day window of explanation for his absence and hope that he doesn’t get unacceptably dead.

Hmm. Now that we mention it, what are the Constitutional hindrances to naming Jared Kushner as VP? Does he need formal Senate approval or just Ivanka’s OK?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43341 "2020-05-11T07:12:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Now that we mention it, what are the Constitutional hindrances to naming Jared Kushner as VP? Does he need formal Senate approval or just Ivanka’s OK?

If the Senate doesn’t approve Kushner, Trump will just name him as acting Vice President.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43342 "2020-05-11T12:49:57Z")

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[Awwww, poor baby!](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-deaths-mount-trump-tries-to-convince-americans-its-safe-to-inch-back-to-normal/2020/05/09/bf024fe6-9149-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html)

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> Some of Trump’s advisers described the president as glum and shell-shocked by his declining popularity…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43343 "2020-05-11T13:05:28Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Defective airport screenings maybe causing another spike in cases? Bah, as long as people can [get going places again!](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/05/09/white-house-push-airport-fever-screenings-overrules-cdc-scientists/3097158001/)

Watching the response to this whole thing is like watching a slow-motion disaster. It’s evidence that this country is in a state of decline.

And COVID-19 is nothing compared to what looms on the horizon with global climate change catastrophe. We’re talking about aquifers running out of water, massive crop failures, storm surges that wipe out swaths of major metropolitan areas along the coast lines, and more immediately, a wet bulb problem.

[https://newsinfopark.com/science/2020-05-09/article/lethal-levels-of-heat-and-humidity-are-gripping-global-hot-spots-sooner-than-expected-33861/nip-web-desk-team/](https://newsinfopark.com/science/2020-05-09/article/lethal-levels-of-heat-and-humidity-are-gripping-global-hot-spots-sooner-than-expected-33861/nip-web-desk-team/)

At a time when we need global cooperation, we have the world’s most powerful nation (for now anyway) self-isolating, not because of coronavirus, but because it is deluding itself into believing it can sustain itself and its standard of living by itself. This is how World War Three will eventually get started. And what a war it will be.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43344 "2020-05-11T14:05:16Z")

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Either that, or covid-19 and the resulting economic fallout wakes up the US, which gets its act together for the catastrophes coming down the pike (because there will always be something on it’s way, the universe doesn’t stop Doing Stuff).

Yes, I’m an optimist.

But I’m not going to hold my breath, because while I am hopeful I also have a large dose of realist as well.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43345 "2020-05-11T14:20:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> “Transition to greatness”?? Are you fucking kidding me?? :smack:

Well, the first step is to replace the current administration.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43346 "2020-05-11T15:31:06Z")

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It’s great to see that his priorities are in the right place as he [retweets](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-golf-course-coronavirus_n_5eb8c594c5b6399f48040c77?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJL_b1S-7HzsukgwFp--V2g1e_1Bxfz25tE93DFHGKX_BKP8vuWzPEt9TQxxqHXfjBZywNCkpyLQlq7Cc4jApg13WBcme3y98SU5vtmaqBwm7r4dInAz0JmTj6R0ItDFTmlq3wv6Qaj6kCMQighH_rK1v7xi4EdCpsVNyY5ycXce) from his Los Angeles golf club:

> [@](#):
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> Game on! We are thrilled to announce the reopening of  
> @trumpgolfla  
> beginning Saturday May 9th! We look forward to welcoming you back ������������♂️Book your tee time now

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