# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43427 "2020-05-13T03:48:19Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> It’s been three years, I thought we were already supposed to be Great Again.

I saw a banner today. The new slogan is “Trump 2020: Keep America Great”.

I guess even the Trump campaign realized it was a bad idea to point out the need for change in a year when you’re running for re-election.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43428 "2020-05-13T04:07:35Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> (It’s been three years, I thought we were already supposed to be Great Again.)

Greater Againer.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43429 "2020-05-13T04:56:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I saw a banner today. The new slogan is “Trump 2020: Keep America Great”.

Turns out he forgot to register “[transitionintogreatness.com](https://transitionintogreatness.com/)”, though.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43430 "2020-05-13T10:31:32Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I saw a banner today. The new slogan is “Trump 2020: Keep America Great”.
> 
> I guess even the Trump campaign realized it was a bad idea to point out the need for change in a year when you’re running for re-election.

My preferred banner is [“Biden 2020 - Trump 20-Life”](https://images.dailykos.com/images/803825/large/AvImg-Large-Biden_2020Trump_20Life.png).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43431 "2020-05-13T12:11:40Z")

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On the [nuclear](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nuclear?s=t) pronunciation, [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) seems to agree both pronunciations are acceptable. For [Saddam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_(name)), it sounds to me like “SUH-dahm”. Any actual Arabic speaker want to weigh in on that one?

But that bit about the damn diry lying sack of dung’s pronunciation of China. Only an absolutely clueless fool would not realize that making that comment to that reporter would be nothing other than racist. But, hey, he got a twofer: the damn dirty lying sack of dung is an absolutely clueless fool, and he is a racist.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43432 "2020-05-13T12:31:21Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I caught a few minutes of Tucker Carlson and he was ranting that an unelected official should not be making policy for the USA. Politicians should be making these decisions, not some doctor. :smack: Then I turned to CNN where they were talking about how Trump is pissed that Fauci’s approval numbers are way higher than his. I have a feeling he is going to be sidelined bigly. The administration can’t have science getting in the way of Transitioning to Greatness. (It’s been three years, I thought we were already supposed to be Great Again.)

I wonder if Tucker Carlson feels the same way about unelected official Jared Kushner? :dubious:

(LOL, autocorrect tried to change Tucker on me. I should have left it.)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43433 "2020-05-13T12:39:11Z")

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Yeah, I always want to call him Trunker Carlson too.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43434 "2020-05-13T13:20:36Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> I once had an astronomy professor whose research involved stellar physics. She certainly must have known her pronunciation was wrong, but she didn’t let that stop her.

It’s not wrong–it’s simply not the prestige dialect.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43435 "2020-05-13T13:40:18Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> It’s not wrong–it’s simply not the prestige dialect.

Oh please. :rolleyes:

We don’t have [“received pronunciation”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation) here. It’s just wrong and [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) is full of crap. Which is NOT also pronounced “carp,” as that is a fish used to make Jewish fishy meatballs.

I will cease this hijack now.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43436 "2020-05-13T14:12:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Oh please. :rolleyes:
> 
> We don’t have [“received pronunciation”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation) here. It’s just wrong and [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) is full of crap. Which is NOT also pronounced “carp,” as that is a fish used to make Jewish fishy meatballs.
> 
> I will cease this hijack now.

Disparaging a pronunciation because it doesn’t meet some standard is exactly what a prestige dialect does. It’s tiresome. Millions of people use the “nucular” pronunciation. I hope that we can get past mocking diversity for the purpose of imposing conformity to the majority. I’m sick of that fish.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43437 "2020-05-13T14:30:47Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Trump flew into a rage a few weeks ago when told by his own pollsters that he was behind Biden, so apparently today [they gave him new numbers](https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1260354315107143680) that had him tied, gaining 9 points in the past three weeks. Which is absurd.

Would that we could get a mole in that crew who could feed him ever more inflated numbers. One of two things would happen:

He figures he has a lock on the election and starts to coast, not putting much effort into the campaign and pocketing his donations instead.

Or (I think more likely) he continues to hold the rallies he loves so much and pulls out all of the stops. His base will lap it up, but they’re a lost cause anyway, and the rest of the country will grow ever harder against him.

“When I’m reelected I’ll pass a law that the address of every one who’s registered in that traitorous Democrat (sic) party is made public _and_ make it legal for God-fearing Americans to shoot them.”

_Looking the next day at his poll report_. “Wow! I gained another six points? I gotta keep that up!”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43438 "2020-05-13T14:55:17Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I wonder if Tucker Carlson feels the same way about unelected official Jared Kushner? :dubious:
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> (LOL, autocorrect tried to change Tucker on me. I should have left it.)

Speaking of Jared, he has opined that he thinks it possible that the general election could be delayed. Which is stunning in what it says about his opinion of his opinion, and what it says about his knowledge of constitutional law.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43439 "2020-05-13T15:46:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> On the [nuclear](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nuclear?s=t) pronunciation, [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) seems to agree both pronunciations are acceptable. For [Saddam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_(name)), it sounds to me like “SUH-dahm”. Any actual Arabic speaker want to weigh in on that one?

IIRC, after the Iraqi army was obliterated, suddenly Bush the elder stared pronouncing ‘Saddam’ properly.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43440 "2020-05-13T19:52:23Z")

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Paul Manafort has been released because coronavirus in prisons. Although from what I read, there are no cases of coronavirus in the prison he was in. But also, if things are going so well that we should reopen the country, then what’s the fear about his prison?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43441 "2020-05-13T20:32:07Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Disparaging a pronunciation because it doesn’t meet some standard is exactly what a prestige dialect does. It’s tiresome. **Millions of people use the “nucular” pronunciation.** I hope that we can get past mocking diversity for the purpose of imposing conformity to the majority. I’m sick of that fish.

TIL that I’m sharing the planet with people who are wrong about things.

(j/k. I’ve been aware of that for AGES…)

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43442 "2020-05-13T21:28:03Z")

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Wife works in medical research. I’m currently watching a web panel discussion over her shoulder of a variety of 5 experts discussing the status of monitoring and testing. It’s now transitioning to reopening.

This is what the public needs to see. Unbiased experts discussing the situation from a purely scientific perspective, for an audience of scientists.

Instead, we get a parade of propagandists. Bless Fauci, but he still has to walk a fine line.

So on one side, we have what I’m watching now. On the other, we got Murka flag guns freedumz.

We’re doomed.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43443 "2020-05-13T22:41:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Paul Manafort has been released because coronavirus in prisons. Although from what I read, there are no cases of coronavirus in the prison he was in. But also, if things are going so well that we should reopen the country, then what’s the fear about his prison?

Also, was anyone besides Manafort released from that prison? And who’s decision was this?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43444 "2020-05-13T23:02:16Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Also, was anyone besides Manafort released from that prison? And who’s decision was this?

Lots of people have been released from prison over the past few months because of the virus.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/11/federal-prison-release-criteria-coronavirus-179835](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/11/federal-prison-release-criteria-coronavirus-179835)

> **[Washington state to free as many as 950 prisoners to limit coronavirus outbreaks](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/washington-state-to-move-some-prisoners-back-to-county-jails-to-help-prevent-coronavirus-outbreak/)**
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> Corrections Secretary Stephen Sinclair will grant emergency furloughs to inmates in minimum-custody settings who meet certain criteria. Some will be freed through the commutation process, while others will be released through a graduated reentry...

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43445 "2020-05-13T23:16:09Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Lots of people have been released from prison over the past few months because of the virus.
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> [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/11/federal-prison-release-criteria-coronavirus-179835](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/11/federal-prison-release-criteria-coronavirus-179835)
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> [https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/washington-state-to-move-some-prisoners-back-to-county-jails-to-help-prevent-coronavirus-outbreak/](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/washington-state-to-move-some-prisoners-back-to-county-jails-to-help-prevent-coronavirus-outbreak/)

The question was, was anybody released from the prison Manafort was in?

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43446 "2020-05-13T23:46:22Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The Dow was doing OK today until Dr Fauci went before a Senate committee and told the truth; and then it dropped like a rock (-450 points). Expect an anti-Fauci barrage from Fox and the Tweeter-in-Chief, any moment.

The Orange Idiot [has now obliged](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/donald-trump-anthony-fauci-schools-reopening/index.html):

> [@](#):
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> President Donald Trump voiced frustration Wednesday at the nation’s top infectious disease specialist after he warned a day earlier against reopening schools and businesses too quickly.
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> “I was surprised by his answer, actually,” Trump said when asked about Dr. Anthony Fauci’s warnings during televised congressional testimony that reopening states too quickly could have dire consequences.
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> “It’s just – to me it’s not an acceptable answer, especially when it comes to schools,” Trump said.

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