# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 219
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4361 "2017-05-12T14:46:57Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Trump thrives on this confusion. He knows there are no tapes. Or “tapes”. But his tweet has you (plural) all discombobulated. I’m sure that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4362 "2017-05-12T14:48:06Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Manipulating those strings into a noose around your own neck, just like the master Nixon himself. Such dexterity. He is doomed. Doomed, I tell ya! ROTFLMAO. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4363 "2017-05-12T14:49:05Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > He is doomed. Doomed, I tell ya! > > ROTFLMAO. When this post is quoted in the future, are you going to claim that you weren’t being sarcastic? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4364 "2017-05-12T14:49:51Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > When this post is quoted in the future, are you going to claim that you weren’t being sarcastic? I already suggested a bet on Trump’s impeachment. So far no takers. Would you like to make it? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4365 "2017-05-12T14:52:03Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Maybe that’s why “tapes” is in quotes - if Comey calls his bluff, he can say “I don’t actually have an audio recording, I meant something else by ‘tapes’”. Okay then, release your “tapes”. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4366 "2017-05-12T14:53:04Z")
You aren’t trustworthy. There are posters here that I would accept bets from, and you aren’t one of them. I can also bet online right now with reputable sources. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4367 "2017-05-12T14:53:58Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > He is doomed. Doomed, I tell ya! > > ROTFLMAO. Calmer than you are, Dude. Calmer than you are. Really, how stupid can you be, to not only believe what Trump and his team are telling you, but to actually root for him? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4368 "2017-05-12T14:54:19Z")
In other news, Trump’s tax lawyer acknowledges that Trump has [income from Russia](http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/12/the-associated-press-trump-lawyer-tax-returns-from-past-10-years-show-no-income-of-any-type-from-russian-sources-with-few-exceptions.html) ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4369 "2017-05-12T14:54:32Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You aren’t trustworthy. There are posters here that I would accept bets from, and you aren’t one of them. I can also bet online right now with reputable sources. I am willing to put the bet amounts into escrow with a poster you trust. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4370 "2017-05-12T14:56:57Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In other news, Trump’s tax lawyer acknowledges that Trump has [income from Russia](http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/12/the-associated-press-trump-lawyer-tax-returns-from-past-10-years-show-no-income-of-any-type-from-russian-sources-with-few-exceptions.html) Trump conducted a Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013. Those “exceptions” are pretty obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4371 "2017-05-12T14:58:02Z")
They could certainly be made obvious, but are currently intentionally obfuscated. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4372 "2017-05-12T14:59:45Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I am willing to put the bet amounts into escrow with a poster you trust. An impeachment in this political climate? That would require laughably unwarranted faith in the current government. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4373 "2017-05-12T15:00:01Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Trump conducted a Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013. Those “exceptions” are pretty obvious. You know that there are no other exceptions? How do you know this? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4374 "2017-05-12T15:00:56Z")
Donald Trump’s Own Words Become ‘Exhibit A’ Against Him > [@](#): > > The president’s interview with Lester Holt exposed White House obfuscation, unethical interactions with James Comey, and circumstantial evidence that the FBI director’s termination was improper. > [@](#): > > It is the context for White House spokesperson Kellyanne Conway offering this explanation for why Comey was fired: “I think this is an all of the above answer, that the president has been watching. And the president expects people who are serving in his administration to be loyal to the country and to be loyal to the administration.” I think it’s a the point where being loyal to Trump is being disloyal to the country. We’ve elected [Chauncy Gardner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_There): > [@](#): > > Chance (Peter Sellers) is a middle-aged man who lives in the townhouse of an old, wealthy man in Washington, D.C. He is simple-minded and has lived there his whole life, tending the garden. Other than gardening, his knowledge is derived entirely from what he sees on television. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4375 "2017-05-12T15:02:05Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > An impeachment in this political climate? That would require laughably unwarranted faith in the current government. In fairness, I would put 100 bucks down with a poster that I trusted on a bet that reads “Trump will not be in office on election day 2020 with exceptions for death” with a poster of credibility. Last week I would have required some odds, but would now accept even odds. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4376 "2017-05-12T15:02:10Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You know that there are no other exceptions? How do you know this? I don’t. But a breathless “revelation” that Trump actually had _some_ income from Russia in the last 10 years is hilarious, in the light of that 2013 pageant. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4377 "2017-05-12T15:02:22Z")
2 to 1 wouldn’t be good enough odds for impeachment for me – I’d consider something like 10 to 1 for impeachment, and maybe 2.5 to 1 that he doesn’t complete his first term for some other reason. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4378 "2017-05-12T15:09:26Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Trump conducted a Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013. Those “exceptions” are pretty obvious. Isn’t Trump on record as saying he’s had absolutely no income from Russia? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4379 "2017-05-12T15:09:30Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I already suggested a bet on Trump’s impeachment. So far no takers. Would you like to make it? I wouldn’t bet on him being impeached, as my money is on him resigning for “health reasons” first. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4380 "2017-05-12T15:12:12Z")
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