# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43827 "2020-05-27T01:25:46Z")

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Because Justin’s manly veins pulse with pure grade B maple syrup, whereas Jared has only glamorous ectoplasm.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43828 "2020-05-27T02:04:10Z")

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Twitter has started fact checking Individual 1’s comments about mail in voting, and HE IS NOT HAVING IT!  
.@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post…  
…Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265427539008380928>

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43829 "2020-05-27T02:07:27Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Yeah, those 100,000 people just upped and died for one reason: to make him look bad. And, of course, to get the last laugh. :mad:

But according to some of his supporters, those numbers are fake–one comment I saw claimed that if someone was killed in a car crash that would be counted as a COVID-19 death. Yanno, just to make Trump look bad.

One cite about this:

[Anti-Vax Doctor Promotes Conspiracy Theory That Death Certificates Falsely Cite COVID-19](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/anti-vax-doctor-covid-19-death-certificates-984407/)

Dr. Annie Bukacek, who sits on a Montana county health department board, is promoting a theory claiming that COVID-19 death rates have been inflated

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> One such theory making the rounds on social media is the idea that death certificates have been knowingly manipulated by medical examiners to inflate the number of COVID-19 deaths, part of a larger right-wing talking point that the government is using the pandemic as an excuse to infringe on American rights.
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> This theory has been propagated by everyone from conspiracy theorist David Icke (who is most notable for his endorsement of the idea that the world is controlled by a cabal of “reptilian elites,” or lizard people) to far-right figure Candace Owens, who tweeted on April 6th: “Turns out everyone is only dying of Coronavirus now. Gee. I wonder why,” linking to a New York Times op-ed about patients suffering from other ailments, such as heart attacks, appearing at hospitals in smaller numbers than usual. (Owens did not reference, as the New York Times piece does, the very simple explanation that people may simply be too scared of contracting the virus to present at ERs in the first place.)

This is obviously conspiracy by Big Mask.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43830 "2020-05-27T02:08:53Z")

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Didn’t the damn dirty lying sack of dung declare that success for him in dealing with this pandemic would be less than fifty-thousand Americans dead? We’re now at more than double that number, so by his own admission, the jackass is incompetent as president. He should resign!

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43831 "2020-05-27T02:16:35Z")

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He should be removed.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43832 "2020-05-27T02:16:43Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Didn’t the damn dirty lying sack of dung declare that success for him in dealing with this pandemic would be less than fifty-thousand Americans dead?

Do you have a link for this? I believe you, but I can’t put “Monty from Straight Dope” on my Facebook feed 🙂

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43833 "2020-05-27T02:26:40Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Do you have a link for this? I believe you, but I can’t put “Monty from Straight Dope” on my Facebook feed 🙂

I’ve occasionally cited a few posters from here in journal article footnotes.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43834 "2020-05-27T02:27:17Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Do you have a link for this? I believe you, but I can’t put “Monty from Straight Dope” on my Facebook feed 🙂

[From here.](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/trumps-macabre-declarations-victory/611029/)

> [@](#):
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> “We did the right thing, because if we didn’t do it, you would have had a million people, a million and a half people, maybe 2 million people dead,” Trump said on April 20. “Now, we’re going toward 50, I’m hearing, or 60,000 people. One is too many. I always say it: One is too many. But we’re going toward 50 or 60,000 people.”
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> Four days later, the estimated death toll exceeded 50,000, though it is probably higher. On April 27, Trump said the toll was “probably heading to 60,000, 70,000.” A couple of days later, the U.S. crossed the 60,000 milestone. So on April 29, Trump readjusted.
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> “What we did is a great tribute to this country. But if we lost—so if we lose 65,000 people—it’s so crazy to say it. It’s just so horrible. But if we lose 65,000 people, and instead of that going the other route, we would have lost a million or a million and a half or 2 million. It’s possible. It’s possible that you lost more. But could you imagine? Look how horrible it is to lose 65 and then multiply that times many, many times. That would not be sustainable.”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43835 "2020-05-27T02:27:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Twitter has started fact checking Individual 1’s comments about mail in voting, and HE IS NOT HAVING IT!  
> .@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post…  
> …Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!
> 
> [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265427539008380928](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265427539008380928)

Go on, Don…what are you waiting for? Do something. I dare you.  
Just what I thought: big talking blowhard wuss.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43836 "2020-05-27T02:29:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [From here.](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/trumps-macabre-declarations-victory/611029/)

Thanks, but I can’t even make out what point he is supposed to be making there 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43837 "2020-05-27T02:31:53Z")

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TIL that identifying factually incorrect statements is “stifling free speech”.

Well, back to a little more stifling free speech on my students’ homework.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43838 "2020-05-27T02:35:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Go on, Don…what are you waiting for? Do something. I dare you.

Maybe he’ll hold his breath until he turns orange.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43839 "2020-05-27T02:39:43Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Thanks, but I can’t even make out what point he is supposed to be making there 🙂

Neither could he.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43840 "2020-05-27T04:10:09Z")

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umm, what?

“ **I don’t use insulin. Should I be? Huh? I never thought about it. But I know a lot of people are very badly affected, right? Unbelievable.** ”  
_(Individual-ONE)'s comments (Tuesday during a White House event for senior citizens) came as he veered from prepared remarks. After reading a line on the high cost of insulin, (Individual-ONE) asked the crowd of reporters if he should be taking the drug._

The fuckedup is strong in this one.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43841 "2020-05-27T05:23:41Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> umm, what?
> 
> “ **I don’t use insulin. Should I be? Huh? I never thought about it. But I know a lot of people are very badly affected, right? Unbelievable.** ”  
> _(Individual-ONE)'s comments (Tuesday during a White House event for senior citizens) came as he veered from prepared remarks. After reading a line on the high cost of insulin, (Individual-ONE) asked the crowd of reporters if he should be taking the drug._
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> The fuckedup is strong in this one.

It’s certainly strong in the link you posted…

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43842 "2020-05-27T05:32:27Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> umm, what?
> 
> “ **I don’t use insulin. Should I be? Huh? I never thought about it. But I know a lot of people are very badly affected, right? Unbelievable.** ”  
> _(Individual-ONE)'s comments (Tuesday during a White House event for senior citizens) came as he veered from prepared remarks. After reading a line on the high cost of insulin, (Individual-ONE) asked the crowd of reporters if he should be taking the drug._
> 
> The fuckedup is strong in this one.

Link is doubleplusnogood. Try this one:  
[Trump asks whether he should take insulin despite not being diabetic](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/26/trump-asks-whether-he-should-taking-insulin-despite-not-being-diabetic/5263965002/), _USA Today_, May 26, 2020. Numerous other news outlets have the story too.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43843 "2020-05-27T05:39:07Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Twitter has started fact checking Individual 1’s comments about mail in voting, and HE IS NOT HAVING IT!

Maybe Twitter has, or maybe Twitter will soon have, a rule like we have here at SDMB: One hint of a whisper of a threat of legal action, and you’re instabanned for life!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43844 "2020-05-27T07:47:51Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> umm, what?
> 
> “ **I don’t use insulin. Should I be? Huh? I never thought about it. But I know a lot of people are very badly affected, right? Unbelievable.** ”  
> _(Individual-ONE)'s comments (Tuesday during a White House event for senior citizens) came as he veered from prepared remarks. After reading a line on the high cost of insulin, (Individual-ONE) asked the crowd of reporters if he should be taking the drug._

Trust me - Loser Donald has _no idea_ what insulin is for or what diabetes is. He vaguely grasps that he’s been told he’s doing something very good for people by lowering its price, and those people have been very badly affected in terms of health, and who’s been more badly affected than him, right? Not even the great Abraham Lincoln (who many people are now finding out was a Republican) was affected this badly! And he’s never _thought_ about taking it before since he’s the healthiest president ever, but maybe if he takes it it’ll make him even healthier, and he can keep presidenting until he’s 1,488 (which is a very big number that must be good because Stephen Miller keeps telling him to mention it).

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43845 "2020-05-27T13:12:17Z")

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Trump is threatening to shutter social media platforms because Twitter fact-checked him the other day.

[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-27/trump-threatens-to-shut-social-media-after-twitter-fact-check?utm\_medium=social&utm\_content=politics&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-politics&utm\_source=facebook&utm\_campaign=socialflow-organic](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-27/trump-threatens-to-shut-social-media-after-twitter-fact-check?utm_medium=social&utm_content=politics&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-politics&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43846 "2020-05-27T13:30:12Z")

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I’m kinda surprised that he’s NOT diabetic. You know how much sugar is in those Big Macs?

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