# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43847 "2020-05-27T13:59:34Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Trump is threatening to shutter social media platforms because Twitter fact-checked him the other day.
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> [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-27/trump-threatens-to-shut-social-media-after-twitter-fact-check?utm_medium=social&utm_content=politics&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-politics&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic)

From that link:

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> > [@](#):
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> > Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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> > Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen. We saw what they attempted to do, and failed, in 2016. We can’t let a more sophisticated version of that…
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> > [@](#):
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> > Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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> > …happen again. Just like we can’t let large scale Mail-In Ballots take root in our Country. It would be a free for all on cheating, forgery and the theft of Ballots. **Whoever cheated the most would win.** Likewise, Social Media. Clean up your act, NOW!!!
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My bold.

Indeed. :dubious:

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> Trump has little authority to shut the businesses, which are also central to his re-election campaign and communications strategy with the public. But they already face a range of potential regulations.
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> White House adviser Kellyanne Conway, speaking to reporters at the White House on Wednesday, side-stepped questions of what measures in particular Trump may take. She said social media helps conservatives skirt the mainstream news media.
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> “The president’s saying please stop suppressing conservative voices,” she said, before criticizing Twitter’s fact check. “I thought using outlets that are decisively and proudly anti-Trump to fact-check the president was maybe the richest piece of the whole thing.”
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My bold.

What Kellyanne meant was, “please stop suppressing _dirty, filthy, unprincipled, shitty, dumbass, ignorant, crazy, destructive_ conservative voices!”

IOW the president.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43848 "2020-05-27T14:05:21Z")

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So they’re arguing that, because Twitter is focusing on accounts spreading the most egregious lies, they’re clearly biased against conservatives?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43849 "2020-05-27T14:33:33Z")

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They still have TV and the web to teach us about the Bowling Green massacre.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43850 "2020-05-27T14:43:03Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Link is doubleplusnogood. Try this one:  
> [Trump asks whether he should take insulin despite not being diabetic](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/26/trump-asks-whether-he-should-taking-insulin-despite-not-being-diabetic/5263965002/), _USA Today_, May 26, 2020. Numerous other news outlets have the story too.

Without a working link, I assumed that the previous post on this topic was a joke. Now I see that it’s our president who’s the joke, and a very unfunny one.

Wow. Just…wow. How could he get to this age without having an inkling what insulin does? It’s like he’s gone through life with information deflector shields up.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43851 "2020-05-27T15:31:18Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Didn’t the damn dirty lying sack of dung declare that success for him in dealing with this pandemic would be less than fifty-thousand Americans dead? We’re now at more than double that number, so by his own admission, the jackass is incompetent as president. He should resign!

I’m recalling when in March the WH replaced the CDC’s estimates of American Covid deaths with its own. The details of how the estimate was made were never revealed, but the upshot was that it claimed that the daily deaths would be zero by May first.

We can all see how that prediction worked out. Donny Two-scoops has at long last met an opponent who can’t be bullied, lawyered, or lied into submission and will – for the first time in his life – face consequences for his decisions.

It’s too bad it resulted in hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43852 "2020-05-27T15:39:09Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Without a working link, I assumed that the previous post on this topic was a joke. Now I see that it’s our president who’s the joke, and a very unfunny one.
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> Wow. Just…wow. How could he get to this age without having an inkling what insulin does? It’s like he’s gone through life with information deflector shields up.

Why is anyone surprised? Insulin meets the same rigorous requirements as hydroxychloroquine: it has been used for a long time to treat a disease totally unrelated to coronavirus.

ETA: but there’s no chance he’ll use it, once he finds out it has to be injected.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43853 "2020-05-27T16:49:12Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Why is anyone surprised? Insulin meets the same rigorous requirements as hydroxychloroquine: it has been used for a long time to treat a disease totally unrelated to coronavirus.
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> ETA: but there’s no chance he’ll use it, once he finds out it has to be injected.

Too bad. I hear it’s particularly effective when mixed with household bleach. A lot of people are saying that.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43854 "2020-05-27T17:43:15Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Link is doubleplusnogood. Try this one:
> 
> [Trump asks whether he should take insulin despite not being diabetic](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/26/trump-asks-whether-he-should-taking-insulin-despite-not-being-diabetic/5263965002/), _USA Today_, May 26, 2020. Numerous other news outlets have the story too.

I totally think he should use insulin. Perhaps his lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, could recommend someone to administer it.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43855 "2020-05-27T17:57:44Z")

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He’s never used insulin, so I wonder if he’ll get a BIGLY dose to make up for all those missed doses?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43856 "2020-05-27T18:00:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Too bad. I hear it’s particularly effective when mixed with household bleach. A lot of people are saying that.

Oh, enough of it can be pretty effective on its own. Ask [Sunny von Bülow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_von_B%C3%BClowhttp://).

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43857 "2020-05-27T18:23:14Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I totally think he should use insulin. Perhaps his lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, could recommend someone to administer it.

😃

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43858 "2020-05-27T19:35:30Z")

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> [@maus magill](#):
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> i totally think he should use insulin. Perhaps his lawyer, alan dershowitz, could recommend someone to administer it.

iswydt

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43859 "2020-05-27T20:20:32Z")

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Individual 1 says a reporter wearing a mask was being politically correct,

> **[GOP governors plead against politicization of masks as Trump mocks reporter...](https://www.salon.com/2020/05/27/gop-governors-back-masks-even-as-trump-mocks-masked-reporter-as-politically-correct/)**
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> “This is not about politics. This is not about liberal or conservative," said Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43860 "2020-05-28T06:08:19Z")

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I saw a coinage today that, by the given meaning, would describe almost all of the participants in this thread. The word “cassandrafreude” was said to describe the bitter irony of having seen it coming but no one paid any heed to your foresight. It is kind of a broken construct, though, because “_freude_” literally means “joy”, which fits not at all well with the intended meaning.

And, of course, though many of us well knew in June of '16 that a ShitGibbon presidency was a horrifying thing to contemplate, I can confidently state that no one, not one, fathomed the full potential for this utterly definitive clusterfuckery.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43861 "2020-05-28T07:18:30Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> this utterly definitive clusterfuckery.

Do you remember the party game where you try to come up with the best new collective noun for a group listed on a randomly chosen card? I do believe I have a winner here:

> [@](#):
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> **clusterfuck** of trumpeters

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43862 "2020-05-28T10:42:22Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I saw a coinage today that, by the given meaning, would describe almost all of the participants in this thread. The word “cassandrafreude” was said to describe the bitter irony of having seen it coming but no one paid any heed to your foresight. It is kind of a broken construct, though, because “_freude_” literally means “joy”, which fits not at all well with the intended meaning.

That’s a useful word indeed.

> [@](#):
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> And, of course, though many of us well knew in June of '16 that a ShitGibbon presidency was a horrifying thing to contemplate, I can confidently state that no one, not one, fathomed the full potential for this utterly definitive clusterfuckery.

Countdown to a certain five-letter-named Doper jumping in to claim that they did indeed tell us so in 5…4…3…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43863 "2020-05-28T12:47:38Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> And, of course, though many of us well knew in June of '16 that a ShitGibbon presidency was a horrifying thing to contemplate, I can confidently state that no one, not one, fathomed the full potential for this utterly definitive clusterfuckery.

Speak for yourself.

Everyone here called it “shrill” or “hyberbolic.”

I recognized early on we were headed toward a new reality - and by no means is this anywhere near being over. The problem isn’t Trump; it’s always been what Trump’s election represents, and who he represents. The sad reality is that there are enough people who have an authoritarian mindset in this country that it now actually matters, which wasn’t the case when people screamed that George W Bush or Bill Clinton was a Nazi

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43864 "2020-05-28T13:05:24Z")

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Collusion! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43865 "2020-05-28T13:05:45Z")

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…and right on time.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43866 "2020-05-28T13:29:46Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Countdown to a certain five-letter-named Doper jumping in to claim that they did indeed tell us so in 5…4…3…

It’s like you’re psychic!

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