# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 220
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4381 "2017-05-12T15:12:21Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Isn’t Trump on record as saying he’s had absolutely no income from Russia? Cite? (Especially on the “had” vs “has” part) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4382 "2017-05-12T15:13:03Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I don’t. But a breathless “revelation” that Trump actually had _some_ income from Russia in the last 10 years is hilarious, in the light of that 2013 pageant. Right. [Nothing to see here](http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4383 "2017-05-12T15:15:16Z")
It’s like Trump was given a biography of Nixon to read, and he thought it was a how-to manual… ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4384 "2017-05-12T15:15:56Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Right. [Nothing to see here](http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/). You do understand that Trump used to build condo buildings, pretty luxurious ones, and then sold the condos to people, right? That was part of his business. What exactly do you find suspicious in that activity? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4385 "2017-05-12T15:16:39Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Cite? (Especially on the “had” vs “has” part) If I had a cite, I wouldn’t have asked. You try asking Google about no income from Russia without getting pages of his tax attorney. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4386 "2017-05-12T15:18:07Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Trump thrives on this confusion. He knows there are no tapes. Or “tapes”. But his tweet has you (plural) all discombobulated. Yes, but how do _you_ know? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4387 "2017-05-12T15:19:00Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > You do understand that Trump used to build condo buildings, pretty luxurious ones, and then sold the condos to people, right? That was part of his business. What exactly do you find suspicious in that activity? I understand it just fine. I’m wondering if YOU understand it, or if you are once again being deliberately obtuse. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4388 "2017-05-12T15:19:21Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > 2 to 1 wouldn’t be good enough odds for impeachment for me – I’d consider something like 10 to 1 for impeachment, and maybe 2.5 to 1 that he doesn’t complete his first term for some other reason. There needs to be a time component on this bet. Impeachment odds in the current Congress are near zero – I mean, he just admitted to Lester Holt that he committed obstruction of justice, and there’s nothing but crickets coming from the Capitol. If Democrats retake one or both houses in 2018, then impeachment odds go up to near 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4389 "2017-05-12T15:26:51Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Okay then, release your “tapes”. They’re under audit, by… I don’t know… let’s say the FCC. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4390 "2017-05-12T15:29:51Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Did anyone else hear/read “tapes” and think “Holy shit, is he trying to **be** Nixon now?” Fire investigators, check. Tape people, check. It’s like he’s ticking off boxes in a list. (Who uses “tapes” now anyway?) Not to mention a photo op with Henry Fucking Kissinger. It’s practically Nixon cosplay at this point. > **[Trump Also Just Met With Henry Kissinger, aka Richard Nixon’s National...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/05/henry-kissinger-in-oval-office-reporters-say.html)** > > This is what’s called “steering into the skid.” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4391 "2017-05-12T15:33:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I understand it just fine. I’m wondering if YOU understand it, or if you are once again being deliberately obtuse. There’s nothing deliberate about it. He, like the man he worships so, really is that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4392 "2017-05-12T16:01:37Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > They’re under audit, by… I don’t know… let’s say the FCC. NEA ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4393 "2017-05-12T16:07:41Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Trump thrives on this confusion. He knows there are no tapes. Or “tapes”. But his tweet has you (plural) all discombobulated. How do you know all this? I’m curious how anyone can be anything close to confident about things like this that they couldn’t possibly verify. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4394 "2017-05-12T16:07:49Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > He is doomed. Doomed, I tell ya! > > ROTFLMAO. So far Trump has told us on TV that the firing was in the end an intentional obstruction of justice, now he is threatening Comey. What I think is going on is that Comey was going to be a good Republican soldier and bend over as usual; but, the lemon juice on the wound words from Trump in his disastrous TV interview has made the almost mythical Republican integrity spine to show up a little bit and I do think that Comey did let it be known to Trump that because of what he claimed about him he would not remain quiet for long. Hence the Tweet storm/threat. The point here is that: when are **you** going to demand better? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4395 "2017-05-12T16:12:35Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Approval ratings among Trump’s voting base have been steadily dropping since at least March. > > “Most alarming for President Donald Trump, the demographic underpinnings of his support, Republicans, white voters, especially men and those without a college degree, are starting to have doubts,” - Tim Malloy, assistant director of a 1,056-person Quinnipiac University national poll. I got the call early this week. Fortunately they identify themselves on the caller ID. It was nice to be able to do my part. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4396 "2017-05-12T16:14:31Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Okay then, release your “tapes”. They weren’t “tapes”. They were “”“Tapes”“” But the fake news doesn’t know the difference. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4397 "2017-05-12T16:20:22Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > There needs to be a time component on this bet. Impeachment odds in the current Congress are near zero – I mean, he just admitted to Lester Holt that he committed obstruction of justice, and there’s nothing but crickets coming from the Capitol. I have absolutely no doubt that if the current Congress had been around in 1974, Nixon would have completed his second term. Although maybe not; Nixon was far too liberal for most of the current GOP. But his actual criminal activity would definitely have been far down their list of concerns. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4398 "2017-05-12T16:22:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Okrahoma View Post > Trump thrives on this confusion. He knows there are no tapes. Or “tapes”. But his tweet has you (plural) all discombobulated. You know, that’s not a compliment, right? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4399 "2017-05-12T16:31:35Z")
Best thing about the current kerfuffle fom Occupy White House hizzelf is his comment that the Democrat candidate should have won the election for president. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4400 "2017-05-12T16:49:32Z")
Not to worry, [he’s sending a certified letter to Lindsey Graham attesting to his lack of Russia ties.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-09/trump-preparing-certified-letter-attesting-to-no-russia-ties) Wow, a certified letter! You can’t go wrong if you send a certified letter! What, no telegram? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=219) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=221)