# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2201
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44007 "2020-06-01T23:00:14Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Mounted officers already flashbanging 100% peaceful protestors one street over from the White House. National Guard, Secret Service, Park police and ICE all present. No provocation whatsoever. I’m fairly confident this was ordered to be coinciding with the Trump speech, so the audience could hear the sounds of warfare while the Strong Man President declared that he was Taking Control. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44008 "2020-06-01T23:00:53Z")
Insurrection act of 1807 invoked, thousands and thousands of military troops deployed to American cities. Neatly timed to coincide as peaceful protesters are gassed and fired upon with flash bangs and rubber bullets. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44009 "2020-06-01T23:03:03Z")
Welcome to the end. This was the Kristallnacht that Trump and his merry band of fascist enablers (cough Miller cough) have been waiting for. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44010 "2020-06-01T23:03:17Z")
And now he’s heading to St Johns Church for a photo op. ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44011 "2020-06-01T23:05:20Z")
Did you all catch the dog whistle in the Moron-in-Chief’s statement. Along the lines of protect 2nd Amendment Rights?? He’s fucking telling people it’s OK to shoot!! Right?? I have guns, plenty, so this is not an anti-gun statement - but someone please tell me I’m wrong, and that’s not his dog whistle to his supporters to shoot these protesters!! ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44012 "2020-06-01T23:06:01Z")
Holy fucking shit. If he actually goes through with thousands of armed troops in the streets I may have finally found what gets me off my ass of course the second amendment may not go the way the dipshit hopes. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44013 "2020-06-01T23:10:07Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > Did you all catch the dog whistle in the Moron-in-Chief’s statement. Along the lines of protect 2nd Amendment Rights?? He’s fucking telling people it’s OK to shoot!! Right?? I have guns, plenty, so this is not an anti-gun statement - but someone please tell me I’m wrong, and that’s not his dog whistle to his supporters to shoot these protesters!! That’s exactly what he’s doing. He wants this whipped up even more, to give him the excuse he needs to go into cities with armed troops and start busting heads and arresting Democrats. This is all about the final stage in obtaining permanent power. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44014 "2020-06-01T23:10:56Z")
CNN has just pointed out that the insurrection act only gives him the authority to deploy troops inside the district of Columbia. Sending troops to a state would require an invitation from the governor. And he literally walked across the street to pose for a picture waving a Bible. And then left. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44015 "2020-06-01T23:11:26Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Insurrection act of 1807 invoked, thousands and thousands of military troops deployed to American cities. Neatly timed to coincide as peaceful protesters are gassed and fired upon with flash bangs and rubber bullets. Link? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44016 "2020-06-01T23:13:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > CNN has just pointed out that the insurrection act only gives him the authority to deploy troops inside the district of Columbia. Sending troops to a state would require an invitation from the governor. So we can expect deployments to Arkansas, Alabama, Florida… Need I continue? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44017 "2020-06-01T23:14:48Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > CNN has just pointed out that the insurrection act only gives him the authority to deploy troops inside the district of Columbia. Sending troops to a state would require an invitation from the governor. He can do whatever he wants. Who exactly is going to stop him? Minnesota national guard? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44018 "2020-06-01T23:28:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He can do whatever he wants. Who exactly is going to stop him? Minnesota national guard? The governor of Illinois just said that he won’t stand for it. I don’t think we’ll see any uninvited army troops …its all just the usual Trump bluster. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44019 "2020-06-01T23:33:01Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Link? I was watching it live on cnn- it may be that he’s simply readying things but may still give"weak" governors a chance to pull things up. The military police firing rubber bullets and tear gas was moments before he started talking. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44020 "2020-06-01T23:35:16Z")
> **[Trump threatens military force if violence in states isn't stopped | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/politics/donald-trump-national-address-race/index.html)** > > Declaring himself "your president of law and order," President Donald Trump vowed Monday to return order to American streets using the military if widespread violence isn't quelled, even as peaceful protesters just outside the White House gates were... ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44021 "2020-06-01T23:49:55Z")
Troops moving in DC now. Trump will try this out first, and see if he can get the situation even more whipped up. Then see what happens. I predict a next step will be muzzling certain members of the media, or entire outlets, for reporting things he does not like. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44022 "2020-06-01T23:56:40Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And now he’s heading to St Johns Church for a photo op. And the peaceful protesters at the church were cleared away with rubber bullets so that he could have a photo op holding up a book he never has read in front of it. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44023 "2020-06-01T23:56:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > CNN has just pointed out that the insurrection act only gives him the authority to deploy troops inside the district of Columbia. Sending troops to a state would require an invitation from the governor. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He can do whatever he wants. Who exactly is going to stop him? Minnesota national guard? Exactly. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This current president has the full and complete backing of the Justice Department, the Senate and the Supreme Court. The concept of “laws” or “constitution” is not applicable to this president or his supporters. > > Trump could easily send in federal agents to shoot down protesters, or the media. > > At this point, Trump could order the Air Force to bomb major American cities, and this is what would happen. If anyone refused his orders, they would be arrested, and he’d go down the chain until someone (supporter) obeyed. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Let me explain what the President can do: _Anything he damn well wants to do until he is physically stopped and/or an order is refused_, and the latter only holds up until the person who refused to follow the order is replaced by someone who will. Yes, and yes. All the news and public reaction (Twitter, mostly) I was exposed to today focused on ridicule of Bunker Boy and on posturing about ‘no justice no peace.’ I’m sorry to be criticizing the latter group as I know their reaction comes from living with genuine oppression. But the '_you had better do what we want or else’_ swagger is ludicrous in the face of the power of a President to become a full-fledged fascist dictator. And that’s what we’re looking at—with the enthusiastic support of Senators like Tom Cotton and Marsha Blackburn, Justices and other federal judiciary, and media titans like Mark Zuckerberg, who is apparently all-in on supporting Trump as Prez-for-Life. This is real and it’s going to be very, very bad. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44024 "2020-06-01T23:58:01Z")
I’m [keeping an eye](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrMoqSPZym0&feature=emb_logo) on the DC protests. Everybody seems pretty chill, but the sun hasn’t gone down yet. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44025 "2020-06-02T00:03:02Z")
Peaceful protest is a vital part of any nation that actually values the rule of law (as opposed to paying it lip service). But I’m going to question why peaceful protest needs to happen after dark. Darkness brings out the opportunists and the agents provocateur. March and occupy in the daylight. Otherwise you’re just helping the fascists, who can easily stage false-flag incidents in the darkness. eta: I’m not talking about multi-day events like sit-ins or chained-to-the-gate or hunger strikes; I’m talking about moving through the streets. It provides SO much help to Trump. I’m not seeing how it’s helpful to the cause (in this case of changing American policing). Why help Trump by staying out after dark? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44026 "2020-06-02T00:05:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Peaceful protest is a vital part of any nation that actually values the rule of law (as opposed to paying it lip service). > > But I’m going to question why peaceful protest needs to happen after dark. Darkness brings out the opportunists and the agents provocateur. > > March and occupy in the daylight. Otherwise you’re just helping the fascists, who can easily stage false-flag incidents in the darkness. The rubber bullets, tear gas, and flash bangs were all in daylight just now. So Trump could have a photo op in front of the church. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2200) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2202)