# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2211
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44207 "2020-06-04T03:54:11Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1’s press sycophant compares Individual 1’s stroll to the church to Churchill visiting bomb damage during World War II > [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500977-white-house-compares-trumps-church-visit-to-churchill](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500977-white-house-compares-trumps-church-visit-to-churchill) Kayleigh McEnany. Now _that_ is a worthless cunt, this Board’s bullying PC Patrol notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44208 "2020-06-04T04:04:05Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > “There is more joy in heaven over one sinner who is saved than for 99 who don’t need saving.” Getting a former cabinet member to oppose Trump, unequivocal, on the record, is huge. Let’s take the win. I had some respect for Mattis’ original restraint and even more now; the man is principled, which can’t be said for his former CinC. Here’s hoping that his broadside is just the first salvo. Would be nice if some of the other former cabinet members, like Gen. J. Kelly, would do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44209 "2020-06-04T04:08:04Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Kayleigh McEnany. Now _that_ is a worthless cunt, this Board’s bullying PC Patrol notwithstanding. Without an understanding about the board’s bullying PC Patrol, I wholeheartedly agree. Kayleigh was the reason I switched CNN off for good. I could not listen to one more completely inane, nonsensical bit of bullshit spewing from her mouth and going unchallenged by one of their talking heads, as if she was making an actual point. I think the one that tore it was a response to Trump refusing to release his tax returns. “Never in the history of this country has any president been so persecuted in the pursuit of seeing his tax returns!” Umm. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44210 "2020-06-04T04:15:46Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Kayleigh McEnany. Now _that_ is a worthless cunt, this Board’s bullying PC Patrol notwithstanding. Trump’s been retweeting her: > [@](#): > > **Kayleigh McEnany @PressSec** > > Former Secretary Mattis’ “article” is little more than a self-promotional stunt to appease the DC elite. > > President@realDonaldTrump is the law and order President that has restored peace to our nation’s streets. > > Mattis’ small words pale in comparison to @POTUS’ strong action. > > … > > **Kayleigh McEnany@PressSec** > > Under President@realDonaldTrump’s leadership, there will be NO burning of churches, looting of businesses, destruction of property, and assaults on civilians and police. > > America will unite in LAW AND ORDER! Didn’t this get started by police assaults on civilians? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44211 "2020-06-04T04:17:25Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump’s been retweeting her: Jesus. Is she blowing him or something? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44212 "2020-06-04T04:47:44Z")
Interesting Trump quote: > [@](#): > > When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak … as being spit on by the rest of the world— [The 1990 Playboy interview with Donald Trump](https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990?fbclid=IwAR3qCxQsImRymze4H86Pg45Z-fwx37CaTW0ow4Ic7cGLLweWyLZcdOz1pZY) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44213 "2020-06-04T06:15:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 singled out one guy in a video as an anarchist, and he’s now getting death threats. He claims he was there to be peaceful and did not do anything violent. > [Trump tweets Ohio man at protest is an 'anarchist.' Now the man's getting death threats.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweets-ohio-man-protest-014037091.html) Joseph N. Welch [had the orange orifice pegged many years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc6Yo3A7CC8). > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1’s press sycophant compares Individual 1’s stroll to the church to Churchill visiting bomb damage during World War II > [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500977-white-house-compares-trumps-church-visit-to-churchill](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500977-white-house-compares-trumps-church-visit-to-churchill) & > [@Lamoral](#): > > Not really. They’ll find some way of convincing themselves that Mattis is a cuck. There’s no reasoning with them! They worship Trump as if he is an infallible god. > > I’m fucking beyond disgusted with this. Those idiots who support the mango moron damn near do worship him. When the Bishop of the Dioces of Washington, DC tweeted a condemnation of that photo op, his supporters were in orgiastically lauding him and literally calling the Bishop a Satanist. > [@dasmoocher](#): > > Interesting Trump quote: > > [The 1990 Playboy interview with Donald Trump](https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990?fbclid=IwAR3qCxQsImRymze4H86Pg45Z-fwx37CaTW0ow4Ic7cGLLweWyLZcdOz1pZY) Cry the Beloved County. Cry, cry, cry. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44214 "2020-06-04T06:28:15Z")
Question for the next presser: “Is Melania okay with you and the Donald?” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44215 "2020-06-04T11:54:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Great. > > But what took him so GODDAMN long?? :mad: > In normal times, maybe. But in these times: BULL. SHIT. Mattis spoke first with his actions, and it was clear that he dissented with the administration in his resignation letter. We need more generals to come out. But more than that, we need more white republicans to discredit not only Trump but the prostitution of the party. Where’s George W Bush? Where’s Condi Rice? Where’s Karl Rove? Any conservative who is in any way supporting this man with full knowledge of what’s happening right now is choosing their bank accounts over their country, and as far as I’m concerned, they can go straight to fucking hell. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44216 "2020-06-04T12:17:38Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Interesting Trump quote: > > > [@](#): > > > > When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak … as being spit on by the rest of the world— > > [The 1990 Playboy interview with Donald Trump](https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990?fbclid=IwAR3qCxQsImRymze4H86Pg45Z-fwx37CaTW0ow4Ic7cGLLweWyLZcdOz1pZY) I really thought that was **smapti** until I uncovered the link. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44217 "2020-06-04T12:18:54Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Mattis spoke first with his actions, and it was clear that he dissented with the administration in his resignation letter. > > We need more generals to come out. But more than that, we need more white republicans to discredit not only Trump but the prostitution of the party. > > Where’s George W Bush? > > Where’s Condi Rice? > > Where’s Karl Rove? > > Any conservative who is in any way supporting this man with full knowledge of what’s happening right now is choosing their bank accounts over their country, and as far as I’m concerned, they can go straight to fucking hell. Every one of them is complicit, and would have to admit to their own crimes and culpability before being able to criticize the current administration. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44218 "2020-06-04T12:28:10Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …Where’s Karl Rove?.. Karl Rove? KARL FREAKIN’ ROVE? He perfected the tactic of attacking an opponent on his strengths. The swiftboating campaign against John Kerry is the most well-known, but early on in his “slash-and-burn” campaigning career he tried to kill the campaign of a candidate for the Alabama Supreme Court. One of Mark Kennedy’s signature causes was helping abused children, so Rove started a whisper campaign that he was a homosexual pedophile. It didn’t work in this case, though. > **[The Man Karl Rove Couldn't Beat](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/05/the-man-karl-rove-couldnt-beat/238873/)** > > 'Bush's Brain' didn't lose often. But one Alabama Democrat who did beat him -- the target of a vicious smear campaign -- is back. Rove is the worst of the worst. He is worse than trump, because in addition to being evil, he’s very capable at what he does. And by the way, I’ve seen him on the Sunday morning politco shows several times, and he seems solidly in the rah-rah Trump camp. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44219 "2020-06-04T12:41:05Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Where’s George W Bush? [Here](https://abc13.com/politics/george-w-bush-releases-rare-public-statement-on-protests/6228645/). He’s not yet openly criticized Trump by name but he’s supporting the (peaceful) protesters and the (responsible) police. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44220 "2020-06-04T14:18:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I really thought that was **smapti** until I uncovered the link. Naw, that doesn’t sound like a smapti impersonation of the current trump; that was back when he could still speak articulately. But clearly trump’s worldview has not changed at all since then. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44221 "2020-06-04T14:27:39Z")
The surprise criticism of the week has come from…wait for it…[Pat Robertson](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/pat-robertson-donald-trump/index.html). Remind me to check the current weather in Hell. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44222 "2020-06-04T15:00:10Z")
How on earth can she say that with a straight face? I don’t recall hearing about the British Army gassing and clubbing civilians so Churchill could have his photo-op. Must be that lying media again. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44223 "2020-06-04T15:08:20Z")
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44224 "2020-06-04T15:28:17Z")
For all the morons who insist that Trump used to be a liberal democrat, from the same 1990 Playboy interview: > [@](#): > > Well even if I ever ran for office, I’d do better as a Democrat than as a Republican—and that’s not because I’d be more liberal, because I’m conservative. But the working guy would elect me. He likes me. Of course, Trump didn’t realize that the Democrats would never fall for it. The rubes in in the Grand Old Klan Party? They’re still eating his shit. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44225 "2020-06-04T15:59:16Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > I think they will break down in a fairly predictable way. > > Enlisted: “Oh, he’s an officer, an arrogant elitist just like all the officers are. The higher up the chain of command, the bigger assholes they are and the less they understand reality. Generals are the worst of all. They’re just self-serving political hacks.” > > Officers: “The job of a military officer isn’t to talk about politics…we officers know not to comment on things above our pay grade. A general still has to serve the Commander in Chief.” > > They’re always moving the goalposts. No matter how tortured the logic, they will find some way to throw Mattis under the bus. Things are changing. In spite of what you may hear, Trump can’t count the military as part of his base. [As of last December](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/12/17/half-of-active-duty-service-members-are-unhappy-with-trump-new-military-times-poll-shows/), 50% of troops have an unfavorable view of Trump (45 very unfavorable) vs 41% that have a favorable view (24% very favorable). Meanwhile Mattis was hugely popular with the troops. Back in October 2018, while Trump was about even, at 43% either way, Mattis had 84% postive (60% very positive) vs. 4% negative. If Biden can get Mattis to endorse him for 2020 it could be a huge deal. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44226 "2020-06-04T16:53:47Z")
Trump using Bureau of Police personnel for riot control. They are wearing mostly unmarked uniforms and aren’t allowed to say who they are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2210) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2212)