# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44247 "2020-06-04T22:41:16Z")

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My [nickname](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22317194&postcount=43850) for Kayleigh McEnany looks ever more appropriate: “Mouth of Trump”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44248 "2020-06-04T22:53:39Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> My [nickname](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22317194&postcount=43850) for Kayleigh McEnany looks ever more appropriate: “Mouth of Trump”

“Vacuous mouthpiece (Ver 4)”

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44249 "2020-06-05T00:02:22Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Things are changing. In spite of what you may hear, Trump can’t count the military as part of his base.

That may be, but the military is only a miniscule fraction of the population.

As I’ve often said, Trump could never, ever get away with his behavior - never would have had a shot in hell at the presidency to begin with - in the days when the majority of American males would have been expected to serve in the military. But the horse is out of the barn with that one. “The military” is little more than an abstraction to most contemporary Americans, and while conservatives may revel in virtue signalling pageantry idealizing the troops, that seems to be where their actual commitment ends.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44250 "2020-06-05T00:10:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> “Vacuous mouthpiece (Ver 4)”

Sorry, there is no version number. It is all the same “person”.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44251 "2020-06-05T00:15:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia has introduced a bill to make it illegal for Individual 1 to drop atomic bombs on hurricanes.  
> [Bill Would Prevent the President from Nuking Hurricanes - Nextgov/FCW](https://www.nextgov.com/policy/2020/06/bill-would-prevent-president-nuking-hurricanes/165900/)

It would be more effective if we could get Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to publicly come out in favor of dropping atomic bombs on hurricanes.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44252 "2020-06-05T00:30:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It would be more effective if we could get Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to publicly come out in favor of dropping atomic bombs on hurricanes.

Hey, get them to come out in favor of teargas, or… wait, I know, lying to the American people!

Barack: “Look, Donnnnald, I would never release my tax returns.”  
Hillary: “And I would never reveal my ties to Russia.”

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44253 "2020-06-05T00:33:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia has introduced a bill to make it illegal for Individual 1 to drop atomic bombs on hurricanes.  
> [Bill Would Prevent the President from Nuking Hurricanes - Nextgov/FCW](https://www.nextgov.com/policy/2020/06/bill-would-prevent-president-nuking-hurricanes/165900/)

Let’s start from scratch shall we Sylvia? How about making it illegal to conspire with a hostile foreign government to subvert an election. Skating on the line of treason. We will do baby steps. But next we can talk about extortion, obstruction of justice and those oh, about a hundred other things.

Good God, Sylvia. That’s legislation?

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44254 "2020-06-05T00:35:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia has introduced a bill to make it illegal for Individual 1 to drop atomic bombs on hurricanes.  
> [Bill Would Prevent the President from Nuking Hurricanes - Nextgov/FCW](https://www.nextgov.com/policy/2020/06/bill-would-prevent-president-nuking-hurricanes/165900/)

Ah, but Trump will point out that the law would only “prohibit the president from unleashing any strategic weapon to alter weather patterns or respond to climate change”. (emphasis added)

He will still be able to use tactical nukes (possibly packed with hydroxychloroquine for added punch).

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44255 "2020-06-05T00:41:24Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> That may be, but the military is only a miniscule fraction of the population.

True enough, but they may be reflective of a much larger group.

When you add in their families and then add to that ex-military people and their families, the number is less trivial. How many have served since the Gulf War or even since 9/11? It’s gotta be a big number.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44256 "2020-06-05T01:13:23Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It would be more effective if we could get Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to publicly come out in favor of dropping atomic bombs on hurricanes.

Hey, get them to come out in favor of teargas, or… wait, I know, lying to the American people!

Barack: “Look, Donnnnald, I would never release my tax returns.”  
Hillary: “And I would never reveal my ties to Russia.”

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44257 "2020-06-05T02:18:25Z")

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Trump is finally building his “Wall”, only it’s around the White House:

[With White House effectively a fortress, some see Trump’s strength — but others see weakness](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-his-white-house-effectively-a-fortress-trump-sees-strength--but-others-see-weakness/2020/06/04/3c70fa26-a672-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html)

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> The security perimeter around the White House keeps expanding. Tall black fencing is going up seemingly by the hour. Armed guards and sharpshooters and combat troops are omnipresent.
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> In the 72 hours since Monday’s melee at Lafayette Square, the White House has been transformed into a veritable fortress — the physical manifestation of President Trump’s vision of law-and-order “domination” over the millions of Americans who have taken the streets to protest racial injustice.
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> The White House is now so heavily fortified that it resembles the monarchical palaces or authoritarian compounds of regimes in faraway lands — strikingly incongruous with the historic role of the executive mansion at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, which since its cornerstone was laid in 1792 has been known as the people’s house and celebrated as an accessible symbol of American democracy.

Is Mexico paying for this one too?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44258 "2020-06-05T02:24:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Let’s start from scratch shall we Sylvia? How about making it illegal to conspire with a hostile foreign government to subvert an election. Skating on the line of treason. We will do baby steps. But next we can talk about extortion, obstruction of justice and those oh, about a hundred other things.
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> Good God, Sylvia. That’s legislation?

I don’t know. If you asked me what the worst thing about Donald Trump was, his access to nuclear weapons would be there at number one.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44259 "2020-06-05T02:36:06Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Trump is finally building his “Wall”, only it’s around the White House:
> 
> [With White House effectively a fortress, some see Trump’s strength — but others see weakness](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-his-white-house-effectively-a-fortress-trump-sees-strength--but-others-see-weakness/2020/06/04/3c70fa26-a672-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html)  
> Is Mexico paying for this one too?

No, of course the black community has to pay for that wall.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44260 "2020-06-05T02:46:40Z")

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Sesame Street has been roasting Individual 1 since the 1980s.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-_r6iojNnYg/maxresdefault.jpg "'Sesame Street's' brutal parodies of Donald Trump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_r6iojNnYg)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44261 "2020-06-05T02:52:13Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> No, of course the black community has to pay for that wall.

Well, if Trump loses the election, I’d happily have some of my taxes pay for Trump to live in another type of fortified, secure building.

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44262 "2020-06-05T03:03:45Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Sen. Murkowski (R-AK) just endorsed Mattis’ statement.

Yeah…although I found her logic somewhat confusing. She strongly endorses the statement and says how important it is to be said (and even that it should have been said earlier) but then goes on to say that she is “struggling” with whether to support Trump for re-election.

I mean, Mattis’s statement basically compares Trump to the Nazis and talks about him as a threat to the Constitution…and Murkowski is thinking, “Hmmm…Nazis or the Constitution, boy that’s a hard choice”?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44263 "2020-06-05T03:24:41Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Trump is finally building his “Wall”, only it’s around the White House:
> 
> [With White House effectively a fortress, some see Trump’s strength — but others see weakness](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-his-white-house-effectively-a-fortress-trump-sees-strength--but-others-see-weakness/2020/06/04/3c70fa26-a672-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html)  
> Is Mexico paying for this one too?

And in related news -  
**Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.**

'…Serbian president Vojislav Kostunica deployed more than 30,000 peacekeeping troops to the U.S. Monday, pledging full support to the troubled North American nation as it struggles to establish democracy. …An additional 10,000 troops are expected to arrive in the capital city of Washington, D.C. by Friday…"

> **[Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.](https://www.theonion.com/serbia-deploys-peacekeeping-forces-to-u-s-1819565829)**
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> BELGRADE–Serbian president Vojislav Kostunica deployed more than 30,000 peacekeeping troops to the U.S. Monday, pledging full support to the troubled North American nation as it struggles to establish democracy.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44264 "2020-06-05T03:25:04Z")

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Twitter took down a video from the Individual 1 campaign for a copyright violation.

> **[Facebook, Instagram join Twitter in removing Trump campaign videos over...](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/04/twitter-trump-copyright-302679)**
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> A California law firm told the companies the video infringed on its clients' artwork. But the Trump campaign cried censorship.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44265 "2020-06-05T03:44:45Z")

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The spokeswoman for the State Department put out a tweet criticizing China for their actions in Hong Kong, and the spokeswoman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry replied, “I can’t breathe.”

> **[George Floyd's killing: 'I can't breathe,' tweets Chinese spokesperson](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-05-31/George-Floyd-s-killing-I-can-t-breathe-tweets-Chinese-spokesperson-QWaEEcbqtG/index.html)**

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44266 "2020-06-05T04:49:09Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> I mean, Mattis’s statement basically compares Trump to the Nazis and talks about him as a threat to the Constitution…and Murkowski is thinking, “Hmmm…Nazis or the Constitution, boy that’s a hard choice”?

Well in fairness, Trump may be a nazi, but the democrats did just perpetrate the _biggest political scandal in history_.  
Which was…erm…did Obama wear a tweed suit?  
Anyway, you know what it is. And that’s why her conscience might make her endorse magaman.

> [@Rick Kitchen](#):
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> The spokeswoman for the State Department put out a tweet criticizing China for their actions in Hong Kong, and the spokeswoman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry replied, “I can’t breathe.”

It’s fun to see that spokeswoman get pwned, but bear in mind, unfortunately, that Chinese media is trying to draw parallels between the protests in the US and the human rights protests in Hong Kong ([BBC news](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52912241)).  
Which, you may notice, makes no sense at all – what exactly is the principled stand the CPC is supposedly taking here? But it’s the old trick of accusing another party of hypocrisy to deflect from your own.

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