# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2215
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44287 "2020-06-05T18:24:05Z")
So many things this morning. 1-Individual 1 in touting his unemployment numbers: Trump invoked the name of George Floyd, who he hoped “is looking down right now and saying, ‘This is a great thing happening for our country.'” “A great day for him, a great day for everybody. This is great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality,” Trump continued. > **[Americans Are Horrified After Trump Declares It's "A Great Day For" George...](https://polinews.org/americans-are-horrified-after-trump-declares-its-a-great-day-for-george-floyd-at-press-conference-he-is-dead-how-could-it-be-great-for-him/)** > > Trump just disrespected George Floyd and his entire family by using him as a prop. 2-Yamiche Alcindor of PBS asked him why he didn’t have a racial inequality-related plan laid out, prompting Trump to put a finger to his lips as he said “shhh.” Trump later said his plan was to have “the strongest economy in the world” as it would be the “greatest thing that can happen for race relations,” causing Alcindor to shout out that the unemployment rate actually went up for African-Americans and Asian-Americans. “How is that a victory?” Alcindor asked. Trump, dismissively waved off the White House reporter’s question, derisively adding: “You are something.” > **[Trump Shushes Black Reporter Asking What He’s Doing About Systemic Racism](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-shushes-yamiche-alcindor-for-asking-what-hes-doing-about-systemic-racism)** > > PBS correspondent Yamiche Alcindor wondered where was the president's plan to address racial inequality, prompting Trump to put a finger to his lips as he said “shhh.” 3-The Third Amendment is suddenly in the news. The out of state National Guard who were deployed on the streets of Washington were being housed in hotels, until the mayor had them removed under the Third Amendment’s provision that 'No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. ’ > **[Why the Third Amendment Matters | The Mary Sue](https://www.themarysue.com/what-is-the-third-amendment/)** > > What is the Third Amendment and why is it suddenly relevant and trending on Twitter? 4-Individual 1 retweets a letter from his former laywer John Dowd calling peaceful protesters terrorists. > **[Trump shares letter that calls peaceful protesters 'terrorists' | CNN Politics](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/04/politics/trump-letter-protesters/)** > > President Donald Trump on Thursday shared a letter on Twitter that referred to the peaceful protesters who were forcibly dispersed from a park near the White House on Monday evening as "terrorists." ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44288 "2020-06-05T18:27:09Z")
I listened to Pigs the morning I heard the election results and it was more-than-usually profound. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44289 "2020-06-05T18:32:31Z")
The Third Amendment? Holy shit. We are truly living in extraordinary times. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44290 "2020-06-05T18:36:58Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The Third Amendment? Holy shit. We are truly living in extraordinary times. That is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44291 "2020-06-05T18:38:07Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > And in related news - > **Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.** > > '…Serbian president Vojislav Kostunica deployed more than 30,000 peacekeeping troops to the U.S. Monday, pledging full support to the troubled North American nation as it struggles to establish democracy. …An additional 10,000 troops are expected to arrive in the capital city of Washington, D.C. by Friday…" > > [Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.](https://www.theonion.com/serbia-deploys-peacekeeping-forces-to-u-s-1819565829) That’s from 20 years ago! Still very a propos, of course. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44292 "2020-06-05T18:38:40Z")
Better than Nostradamus (who was a hack anyhow) is Oscar Wilde to me and the interpretation of the tale of _The Selfish Giant_ by the The King Singers of the animated special of the 1970’s: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8jtLTS7T8cc/hqdefault.jpg "The Selfish Giant (1971)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jtLTS7T8cc&t=242) > [@](#): > > \*Not having anyone near you; > Building a wall and making them fear you, > Saying you have no heart. > > You’re a fool if you think you can live > Your life without sharing sunshine and gladness; > If you think you can live without love, > You’re building a wall of sorrow and madness. > > You’re building a wall to surround yourself; > You’re just building a wall to protect yourself; > You’re just building a wall to defend yourself, > But you’re building a wall that will break your heart. > \* ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44293 "2020-06-05T18:40:36Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > Trump hopes George Floyd is looking down from the clouds, so he can see the wonderful police response to the protests Responding to his death: He added, “Or maybe he’s looking up.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44294 "2020-06-05T18:43:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So many things this morning. > 1-Individual 1 in touting his unemployment numbers: Trump invoked the name of George Floyd, who he hoped “is looking down right now and saying, ‘This is a great thing happening for our country.'” “A great day for him, a great day for everybody. This is great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality,” Trump continued. > [https://politicaltribune.org/americans-are-horrified-after-trump-declares-its-a-great-day-for-george-floyd-at-press-conference-he-is-dead-how-could-it-be-great-for-him](https://politicaltribune.org/americans-are-horrified-after-trump-declares-its-a-great-day-for-george-floyd-at-press-conference-he-is-dead-how-could-it-be-great-for-him) ON the radio I head NPR reporting on that and the reporter, being a bit charitable, had to point out: “It is not clear what the president meant by that” Since this is the pit: Of course we know it, he really does think that a black person staying dead and removing the rights of peaceful protesters and the reverends and staff of the church at Lafayette Park is a great day. What a Putz! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44295 "2020-06-05T18:48:38Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump is finally building his “Wall”, only it’s around the White House: > > [With White House effectively a fortress, some see Trump’s strength — but others see weakness](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-his-white-house-effectively-a-fortress-trump-sees-strength--but-others-see-weakness/2020/06/04/3c70fa26-a672-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html) > Is Mexico paying for this one too? Not bad news. Keeps him from running when he is voted out. > [@smithsb](#): > > And in related news - > **Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.** > > '…Serbian president Vojislav Kostunica deployed more than 30,000 peacekeeping troops to the U.S. Monday, pledging full support to the troubled North American nation as it struggles to establish democracy. …An additional 10,000 troops are expected to arrive in the capital city of Washington, D.C. by Friday…" > > [Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.](https://www.theonion.com/serbia-deploys-peacekeeping-forces-to-u-s-1819565829) I thought the onion was a satire site. Since when did they start reporting real news? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The spokeswoman for the State Department put out a tweet criticizing China for their actions in Hong Kong, and the spokeswoman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry replied, “I can’t breathe.” > [George Floyd's killing: 'I can't breathe,' tweets Chinese spokesperson - CGTN](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-05-31/George-Floyd-s-killing-I-can-t-breathe-tweets-Chinese-spokesperson-QWaEEcbqtG/index.html) Does seem as though we have lost the right to complain about other’s civil rights violations. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 3-The Third Amendment is suddenly in the news. The out of state National Guard who were deployed on the streets of Washington were being housed in hotels, until the mayor had them removed under the Third Amendment’s provision that 'No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. ’ > [https://www.themarysue.com/what-is-the-third-amendment/](https://www.themarysue.com/what-is-the-third-amendment/) Did they suddenly realize that that was the only part of the constitution they hadn’t violated yet? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44296 "2020-06-05T18:50:39Z")
The mayor of Washington had a massive BLACK LIVES MATTER painted on 16th street leading up to the White House, and renamed the street Black Lives Matter Plaza. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44297 "2020-06-05T18:51:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 3-The Third Amendment is suddenly in the news. The out of state National Guard who were deployed on the streets of Washington were being housed in hotels, until the mayor had them removed under the Third Amendment’s provision that 'No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. ’ > [https://www.themarysue.com/what-is-the-third-amendment/](https://www.themarysue.com/what-is-the-third-amendment/) I think it was fucking stupid to call the National Guard to DC, and Trump is an idiot, and I agree with the DC Mayor that the troops should be removed. But the person who wrote that piece about the Third Amendment doesn’t know what they’re talking about, and your summary of the situation is also incorrect. They are right in arguing that the hotels (at least in a time of peace) “have no obligation to house troops.” But if the owners of the hotels agree to house the troops, and do so (presumably, in this case) in return for payment by the government, then there is no Third Amendment violation. There is no Third Amendment issue here. Furthermore, regarding your own summary, the DC Mayor’s letter requesting the removal of the troops does not, so far as I can tell, mention the Third Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44298 "2020-06-05T18:59:26Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The Third Amendment? Holy shit. We are truly living in extraordinary times. Yeah, you don’t hear about the third amendment much. But trust the trump admin to eventually turn all the amendments into bogus culture war fodder. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44299 "2020-06-05T19:14:28Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I think it was fucking stupid to call the National Guard to DC, and Trump is an idiot, and I agree with the DC Mayor that the troops should be removed. But the person who wrote that piece about the Third Amendment doesn’t know what they’re talking about, and your summary of the situation is also incorrect. > > They are right in arguing that the hotels (at least in a time of peace) “have no obligation to house troops.” But if the owners of the hotels agree to house the troops, and do so (presumably, in this case) in return for payment by the government, then there is no Third Amendment violation. > > There is no Third Amendment issue here. > > Furthermore, regarding your own summary, the DC Mayor’s letter requesting the removal of the troops does not, so far as I can tell, mention the Third Amendment. She mentions in her letter the people without any identifying insignia. Can’t she just order the DC Police to start arresting them? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44300 "2020-06-05T19:21:34Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > She mentions in her letter the people without any identifying insignia. Can’t she just order the DC Police to start arresting them? I don’t know. But even if she can, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Third Amendment, which was the main point that I was trying to make. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44301 "2020-06-05T19:26:43Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I don’t know. But even if she can, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Third Amendment, which was the main point that I was trying to make. Yeah, you’re right on that. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44302 "2020-06-05T19:36:45Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Yeah, you don’t hear about the third amendment much. But trust the trump admin to eventually turn all the amendments into bogus culture war fodder. It will probably be along the lines of “You’re not a true patriotic American if you refuse to support the troops by housing them.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44303 "2020-06-05T20:13:24Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > So the unemployment rate dropped to about 13% for May, lower than expected, and trump is crowing about it. I suppose it’s smooth sailing to reelection for him now since obviously he single handedly fixed the economy and triumphed over the deep state that was trying to take him > down (gag). It’s my understanding these are mostly hospitality jobs so probably not exactly rescuing people from a life of poverty but obviously if those people were worth anything they’d start their own business and become rich!!!11 Something about the unemployment numbers is apparently [troubling](https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/1268904930351501317). In short, there are about 9 million people receiving unemployment that were not counted as unemployed. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44304 "2020-06-05T20:13:51Z")
**[Trump directs agencies to waive federal regulations](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB156etR?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)** > [@](#): > > The Trump administration is doing by fiat what it has struggled to accomplish through lengthy rulemaking: dismantle federal regulations designed to protect workers, consumers, investors and the environment. > > Invoking an economic “emergency” stemming from the coronavirus pandemic, the administration has made it harder for people to challenge inaccuracies on credit reports, eased required breaks for commercial truckers, told factories and power plants that they should obey pollution limits but did not have to monitor or report their emissions routinely, among other things. > > President Trump formalized this strategy two weeks ago when he signed an executive order instructing agencies across the government to rescind, modify or simply stop enforcing regulations if they burden the economy. On Thursday , he signed another order to allow agencies to waive 50-year-old environmental laws to speed federal approvals of pipelines, highways, and other projects. > > The president took the actions even as he celebrated a 13.3 percent unemployment rate Friday and said the economy was surging in “the greatest comeback in American history.” > > His executive orders have resurrected a long-running debate about whether regulation hurts the economy. > > “This is a huge win for pro-growth policies,” said David McIntosh, president of the Club for Growth, in a recent call with reporters. > > The moves come on top of waivers that federal agencies had already granted businesses and industries earlier in the health crisis. The White House will seek to make many of those roughly 600 deregulatory actions permanent, according to a former White House official speaking on the condition of anonymity to talk frankly. > … This will make the fat cat Republican donors very happy. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44305 "2020-06-05T20:17:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > ON the radio I head NPR reporting on that and the reporter, being a bit charitable, had to point out: “It is not clear what the president meant by that” Since this is the pit: > > Of course we know it, he really does think that a black person staying dead and removing the rights of peaceful protesters and the reverends and staff of the church at Lafayette Park is a great day. What a Putz! :mad: [More blathering, nonsense and idiocy from today’s event.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/donald-trump-friday-economy-trump-press-conference/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44306 "2020-06-05T20:21:14Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The Third Amendment? Holy shit. We are truly living in extraordinary times. Everyone in the West Wing laughed at Bill when he picked the Third Amendment in this month’s pool of what law they would be breaking next. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2214) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2216)