# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2221
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44407 "2020-06-07T23:40:01Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Waterboarding is not torture and [pepper spray is not a chemical irritant](https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1269649093392990208). I am the AG, and words mean what _ **I** _ say they mean. Not only did Barr say that pepper spray is not a chemical irritant, he said “it’s not chemical.”\* So…_spiritual_? My theory is that Barr has been itching to top his own “I’m trying to grapple with the word ‘suggest’”\*\* deformation of plain English. This new one may well displace it! \*\* [https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/1123658567897292802](https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/1123658567897292802) ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44408 "2020-06-07T23:49:14Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Could it be because he’s Irish? Oh wait… he isn’t. > > I’m not a fan of Soros’s opinions myself, but I can’t deny that there’s a strong tinge of antisemitism in the right’s focus on him. Nag. According to a certain author, these evil people claim to be Jewish so if anyone calls them out, they’ll be accused of anti semitism and disregarded. The author says Jewish people are good, it’s the UltraZionists. These are not my beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44409 "2020-06-07T23:55:07Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Waterboarding is not torture and [pepper spray is not a chemical irritant](https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1269649093392990208). I am the AG, and words mean what _ **I** _ say they mean. If he truly believes that, I’m sure he won’t mind if we sprayed it in his daughters’ eyes, or that of his grandchildren. And if Derek Chauvin believes he was right to kneel on George Floyd’s neck, let’s have someone do that to him or to the people he loves, for as long as he did it. In short, the Golden Rule is perhaps a fine way of judging appropriate criminal justice. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44410 "2020-06-08T00:18:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > If Melania is the one who has to change his diapers, I can understand her reluctance to smile. No, not his trophy wife. The person who would be handling something like that would be a servant. Like his valet. A White House valet died last month. Was it Covid19 like they claimed? Or was he killed because he knew too much? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44411 "2020-06-08T00:26:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, not his trophy wife. The person who would be handling something like that would be a servant. Like his valet. > > A White House valet died last month. Was it Covid19 like they claimed? Or was he killed because he knew too much? [Former butler.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries/former-white-house-employee-who-served-11-presidents-dies-coronavirus-n1211681) Retired in the 1990’s, returned to the Obama White House and retired for good in 2012. One of Trump’s valets did test positive but did not die. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44412 "2020-06-08T01:05:06Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > If he truly believes that, I’m sure he won’t mind if we sprayed it in his daughters’ eyes, or that of his grandchildren. And if Derek Chauvin believes he was right to kneel on George Floyd’s neck, let’s have someone do that to him or to the people he loves, for as long as he did it. In short, the Golden Rule is perhaps a fine way of judging appropriate criminal justice. Ah, but the Golden Rule (or any rules for that matter) are for _other people._ As the Gypsy Fortune Teller said when she told Barr’s fortune, cryptically (as Gypsy Fortune Tellers do): \*When you were a child in school They taught you quite a lot. You were told when you should speak, And when you should not. You were taught to read and write, To take your lessons home at night. At little knowledge serves you well, But the Golden Rule does not.\*[indent][Gordon Lightfoot, _The Gypsy_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooC87DjXwNY)[/indent] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44413 "2020-06-08T01:36:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, not his trophy wife. The person who would be handling something like that would be a servant. Like his valet. > > A White House valet died last month. Was it Covid19 like they claimed? Or was he killed because he knew too much? > [@running\_coach](#): > > [Former butler.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries/former-white-house-employee-who-served-11-presidents-dies-coronavirus-n1211681) Retired in the 1990’s, returned to the Obama White House and retired for good in 2012. > > One of Trump’s valets did test positive but did not die. So either I made a mistake and confused two different people together. Or there is a vast conspiracy at the highest levels that is changing records and creating false narratives to cover up the truth about Diapergate. I know which one I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44414 "2020-06-08T13:29:08Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > So…Trump DOES wear adult diapers? > > I thought so. At least that’s what lots of people say. The other day, a good friend came up to me with tears in his eyes and said, “Sir, I heard that Donald Trump wears adult diapers. Please tell me it’s not true.” I don’t know… I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44415 "2020-06-08T14:41:49Z")
So, the White House is considering having Trump deliver a speech on “race and unity”. [White House is considering a Trump speech to the nation on race and unity | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html) … … … Sorry, it took me some time to swallow that. Bet he lets Stephen Miller write it… ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44416 "2020-06-08T14:46:31Z")
Trump is holding a law enforcement roundtable today. No press allowed. > **[Trump Holds Law Enforcement Roundtable As Biden Meets Floyd Family](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-law-enforcement-roundtable-biden-meets-george-floyd-family-1509288)** > > The president will meet with law enforcement officials at the White House on Monday afternoon as protests against police brutality continue across America. "The president’s roundtable with law enforcement will take place in the State Dining Room at 3 p.m. this afternoon, according to a White House pool report. It is unclear which law enforcement officials are scheduled to attend the roundtable, and the meeting will be closed press—meaning reporters and other media will not be given access to the discussion." Well, that’s not worrisome at all. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44417 "2020-06-08T14:57:32Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Trump is holding a law enforcement roundtable today. No press allowed. > > [Donald Trump Holds Law Enforcement Roundtable as Joe Biden Meets George Floyd Family](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-law-enforcement-roundtable-biden-meets-george-floyd-family-1509288) > "The president’s roundtable with law enforcement will take place in the State Dining Room at 3 p.m. this afternoon, according to a White House pool report. > > It is unclear which law enforcement officials are scheduled to attend the roundtable, and the meeting will be closed press—meaning reporters and other media will not be given access to the discussion." > Well, that’s not worrisome at all. I imagine it’ll go something like: Trump: “How do you guys feel about this ‘Defund the Police’ stuff they’re yelling about?” LEO’s: “We hate it. Terrible idea” Trump: “OK…good meeting. Let’s have lunch.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44418 "2020-06-08T14:58:49Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So, the White House is considering having Trump deliver a speech on “race and unity”. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html) > > … > > … > > … > > Sorry, it took me some time to swallow that. > > Bet he lets Stephen Miller write it… Trump is frantically rushing to the front of the parade in hopes it looks like he’s leading it…but without pissing off his base. I don’t think he can pull that off convincingly. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44419 "2020-06-08T15:25:18Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So, the White House is considering having Trump deliver a speech on “race and unity”. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html) > > … > > … > > … > > Sorry, it took me some time to swallow that. > > Bet he lets Stephen Miller write it… [ul] [li]Very good people on both sides[/li][li]Blue lives matter[/li][li]Law and order[/li][li]Jobs report[/li][li]Biden Sucks[/li][li]Retired generals are losers [/li][li]MAGA![/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44420 "2020-06-08T15:29:37Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So, the White House is considering having Trump deliver a speech on “race and unity”. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/trump-race-nationwide-speech/index.html) > > … > > … > > … > > Sorry, it took me some time to swallow that. > > Bet he lets Stephen Miller write it… …and we’ll get a speech on how there is one race that we should unify behind - a “master” race, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44421 "2020-06-08T15:49:55Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > [ul] > [li]Very good people on both sides[/li][li]Blue lives matter[/li][li]Law and order[/li][li]Jobs report[/li][li]Biden Sucks[/li][li]Retired generals are losers [/li][li]MAGA![/li][/ul] > [@jsc1953](#): > > I imagine it’ll go something like: > > Trump: “How do you guys feel about this ‘Defund the Police’ stuff they’re yelling about?” > LEO’s: “We hate it. Terrible idea” > Trump: “OK…good meeting. Let’s have lunch.” “I’m having two Big Macs and two scoops of ice cream. I hope you people brought sack lunches. Budgets, dontcha know.” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44422 "2020-06-08T16:14:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I don’t think he can pull that off convincingly. There’s not a lot he can pull off. Period. Much less convincingly. Nothing that requires more than 2 seconds of though and work, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44423 "2020-06-08T17:49:57Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > There’s not a lot he can pull off. Period. Much less convincingly. Well there is one thing I can think of, but please, I would rather not. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44424 "2020-06-08T17:53:12Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Trump is frantically rushing to the front of the parade in hopes it looks like he’s leading it…but without pissing off his base. I don’t think he can pull that off convincingly. This will go down one of two ways If his handlers can convince him that he needs to appear conciliatory in order to improve his election chances (and keep him off the aderall) then Trump will read a very boring speech in a very bored voice. That speech will say that we all need to come together as a country, that black and blue lives matter, that what happened to George Floyd was an aberration and should never happen again, and include a couple of MLK quotes. The proud racists in his base will realize that it was all an act, those members of his base who don’t like to be called racist will clutch onto it as proof that they and Trump aren’t actually racist (he mentioned MLK so he can’t be racist). And an hour later Trump will tweet something that completely contradicts everything he just said. If he starts ad libbing, then it will be a rant about the evil Democrats, the terrorist Antifa, and how the police need to quit being so nice. Sprinkeed with statements that he is the least racist president ever, and how good the blacks have it under his administration, and that the Democrats are the true racists. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44425 "2020-06-08T18:00:57Z")
I keep hoping for the 3rd option. He goes right off the rails, and appears with his underpants on his head. He then starts spouting racist language, and demands that everyone must now call him God Emperor Trump. It would be fun to see the usual suspects try to spin this. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44426 "2020-06-08T18:06:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I keep hoping for the 3rd option. He goes right off the rails, and appears with his underpants on his head. We just had a rather lengthy pundrift in this very thread on the subject of what is under his trousers. Hopefully what he comes out wearing on his head will be fully loaded and dripping down his face. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2220) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2222)