# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2226
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44507 "2020-06-10T22:46:04Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Could we have a poll surveying in what way or ways the Trump campaign could best fuck themselves? Just pay attention to the news, they will answer that question for you. Typically on a weekly basis, but sometimes more often. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44508 "2020-06-10T23:49:41Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Actually, there are 10 bases named for enemies of the United States of America. > > Fort Lee > Fort Hood > Fort Benning > Fort Gordon > Fort Bragg > Fort Polk > Fort Pickett > Fort A.P. Hill > Fort Rucker > Camp Beauregard > > We really should have a Fort Cornwallis and Camp Benedict Arnold too. At least they didn’t name one for Forrest! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44509 "2020-06-10T23:56:36Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Republicans: We are the party of Lincoln! We freed the slaves. > Also Republicans: The confederate flag is our heritage and needs to be displayed with honor! Stealing. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44510 "2020-06-10T23:57:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Stealing. Uh yeah. Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44511 "2020-06-11T00:08:16Z")
Dupe. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44512 "2020-06-11T00:10:54Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > But, what are the chances Trump pardons him and a slew of others before he leaves office? > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > 100%. Not necessarily. While it’s certainly true that he would have over two months left in his term if he lost the election, and would most likely pardon all his friends just for one last “Fuck You” to the country, he might win. And while winning the election would tell him that he can get away with anything… um… Yeah, 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44513 "2020-06-11T00:19:55Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Actually, there are 10 bases named for enemies of the United States of America. > > Fort Lee > > Fort Hood > > Fort Benning > > Fort Gordon > > Fort Bragg > > Fort Polk > > Fort Pickett > > Fort A.P. Hill > > Fort Rucker > > Camp Beauregard > > We really should have a Fort Cornwallis and Camp Benedict Arnold too. Huh, I would have thought Fort Polk was named after James K Polk, (our eleventh president) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44514 "2020-06-11T00:29:16Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Huh, I would have thought Fort Polk was named after James K Polk, (our eleventh president) [Still a problem](https://www.whitehousehistory.org/the-enslaved-households-of-james-k-polk). (Of course the real difficulty will be renaming everything named after Washington, and knocking down his monument.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44515 "2020-06-11T00:30:59Z")
Get ready for a spike of COVID cases in Tulsa about two weeks after June 19. **[Trump Will Return to Campaign Trail With Rally in Tulsa](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/politics/trump-rally-tulsa-oklahoma.html)** > [@](#): > > …Trump campaign officials are unlikely to put into place any social distancing measures for rally attendees, or require them to wear masks, people familiar with the decision-making process said, adding that it would be unnecessary because the state is so far along in its reopening. > > Mr. Trump has also made it clear he doesn’t want to speak in front of gatherings that look empty because of social distancing, or to look out on a sea of covered faces as he tries to project a positive message about the country returning to normal life and the economy roaring back, even as his top health advisers have warned the pandemic is far from over. “Oh my goodness,” Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease expert, said Tuesday. “Where is it going to end? We’re still at the beginning of it.” > > Campaign officials said they were considering some modest attempts at reducing risk by providing hand sanitizer on site, but said no final decisions had been made about how to safely bring together a large group of people. > … Yeah, hand sanitizer. That’s the ticket! Maybe they can find a venue that will make a crowd of 500 look like 50,000. Mirrored walls? And just to add spice to the event: > [@](#): > > …Mr. Trump will return to the campaign trail on Juneteenth, an annual holiday commemorating the end of slavery in the United States and celebrated as African-Americans’ Independence Day. After weeks of protests over the killing of George Floyd in police custody, protests and marches are already planned this year for the holiday in many states. > > In 1921, Tulsa was the site of one of the country’s bloodiest outbreaks of racial violence, when white mobs attacked black citizens and businesses with guns and explosives dropped from airplanes. > … This should go really well. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44516 "2020-06-11T01:50:54Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Huh, I would have thought Fort Polk was named after James K Polk, (our eleventh president) That one surprised me too. It’s named after General [Leonidas Polk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonidas_Polk) of Louisiana, second cousin of the President. He was “remembered for … his general lack of success in combat.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44517 "2020-06-11T02:03:58Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Actually, there are 10 bases named for enemies of the United States of America. > > Fort Lee > Fort Hood > Fort Benning > Fort Gordon > Fort Bragg > Fort Polk > Fort Pickett > Fort A.P. Hill > Fort Rucker > Camp Beauregard > > We really should have a Fort Cornwallis and Camp Benedict Arnold too. There’s also Fort Jackson in South Carolina. It’s supposedly named after Andrew Jackson, which I’ll admit is plausible. But you have to wonder if some southern general winked when he announced the name in 1917. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44518 "2020-06-11T02:09:42Z")
It is baffling to me, as a foreigner… Why on earth would the US name army bases after loser traitors? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44519 "2020-06-11T02:13:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It is baffling to me, as a foreigner… Why on earth would the US name army bases after loser traitors? Because people think that traitors to the US should be honored. Because they are morons. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44520 "2020-06-11T02:18:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It is baffling to me, as a foreigner… Why on earth would the US name army bases after loser traitors? Because the loser traitors were very serious about denying equal human rights to black people, and a lot of the people who were naming the army bases nearly a century later were likewise in favor of that cause. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44521 "2020-06-11T02:33:25Z")
So he thinks the History of the US Military Winning should be celebrated with bases named for losers? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44522 "2020-06-11T03:13:55Z")
Why not? Probably 70% of the entire phenomenon of Trumpism is fundamentally about losers deriving an illusoory sense of winning from gratuitously mistreating other people. Why should their choice of commemorative nomenclature be any different? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44523 "2020-06-11T03:45:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It is baffling to me, as a foreigner… Why on earth would the US name army bases after loser traitors? All of the bases are in states of the former Confederacy. Most were established during WWII, although a few date back to WWI. The names were no doubt given due to pressure by the state governments or the states’ Congressional delegations, which still regarded them as heroes. This was also a period when the Ku Klux Klan had a great deal of political influence, not just in the South but also in the North. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44524 "2020-06-11T04:20:38Z")
I prefer Army bases named after generals who didn’t lose wars. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44525 "2020-06-11T04:25:11Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I prefer Army bases named after generals who didn’t lose wars. Nice. I can’t wait for a video summary of his latest rally. I really want to see how brutal and dishonest it gets, but really can’t wait to see the spewing CTs coming out of his mouth. For the virus and civil rights, all Biden has to do is let him talk for a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44526 "2020-06-11T05:29:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Get ready for a spike of COVID cases in Tulsa about two weeks after June 19. > > \*\*[Trump Will Return to Campaign Trail With Rally in Tulsa](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/politics/trump-rally-tulsa-oklahoma.html)\*\*Yeah, hand sanitizer. That’s the ticket! > > Maybe they can find a venue that will make a crowd of 500 look like 50,000. Mirrored walls? > > And just to add spice to the event: This should go really well. :dubious: Free injectable Clorox syringes for all! Lysol cocktails and internal fluorescent light at the reception afterward! ETA: And he’ll leave the City of Tulsa holding the bag for half-million $$$ in unpaid security and police overtime expenses too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2225) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2227)