# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2227
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44527 "2020-06-11T11:10:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There’s also Fort Jackson in South Carolina. It’s supposedly named after Andrew Jackson, which I’ll admit is plausible. Which really isn’t any better, between his defiance of the Supreme Court and genocide of Natives… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44528 "2020-06-11T11:18:34Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > … internal fluorescent light at the reception afterward! I predict this will be the MOST popular activity there. > [@](#): > > ETA: And he’ll leave the City of Tulsa holding the bag for half-million $$$ in unpaid security and police overtime expenses too. Only HALF-million?? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44529 "2020-06-11T11:57:07Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Why not? Probably 70% of the entire phenomenon of Trumpism is fundamentally about losers deriving an illusoory sense of winning from gratuitously mistreating other people… I’d say that’s closer to 90% of the trumpism ethos. The other 10% would be claiming responsibility for the successes of others. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44530 "2020-06-11T12:37:39Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Actually, there are 10 bases named for enemies of the United States of America. > > Fort Lee > Fort Hood > Fort Benning > Fort Gordon > Fort Bragg > Fort Polk > Fort Pickett > Fort A.P. Hill > Fort Rucker > Camp Beauregard > > We really should have a Fort Cornwallis and Camp Benedict Arnold too. Don’t forget Rommel and maybe a naval base after Yamamoto. Because we apparently name our bases to honor our adversaries. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44531 "2020-06-11T13:00:46Z")
It just keeps getting better. **[Trump To Address ‘Disparities’ At Dallas Event](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/11/874413290/trump-to-address-disparities-at-dallas-event?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)** > [@](#): > > President Trump on Thursday will meet with pastors, law enforcement officials and small business owners at a church in Dallas and is expected to discuss plans for a national “holistic revitalization and recovery,” a White House official said. > > In his latest response to protests over police brutality, sparked by the May 25 killing of George Floyd by police in Minneapolis, Trump is expected to discuss ways to address “historic economic, health and justice disparities in American communities” at the event, the official said. > … > > Trump is also set to hold a fundraising event while in Dallas, his first in-person fundraiser since the coronavirus restricted such events. > > Trump, who has campaigned on “law and order” themes and has been backed by police unions, has faced condemnation over his response to the protests. Polling shows most Americans think Trump has increased racial tensions. > > Trump held a roundtable at the White House with law enforcement officials on Monday, where he suggested that he was open to ideas for how policing can be done “in a much more gentle fashion,” but he has resisted suggestions that systemic racism is a problem in policing. > … ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44532 "2020-06-11T13:03:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Get ready for a spike of COVID cases in Tulsa about two weeks after June 19. > > **[Trump Will Return to Campaign Trail With Rally in Tulsa](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/politics/trump-rally-tulsa-oklahoma.html)** I wonder if he’ll have a photo op with [this Tulsa police department major](https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tpd-major-police-shoot-black-americans-less-we-probably-ought): > [@](#): > > Discussing nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd by police in Minneapolis, a white Tulsa Police Department major said Monday systemic racism in policing “just doesn’t exist.” > > \ > > “You get this meme of, ‘Blacks are shot two times, two and a half times more,’ and everybody just goes, ‘Oh, yeah,’” Yates said. “They’re not making sense here. You have to come into contact with law enforcement for that to occur.” > > "If a certain group is committing more crimes, more violent crimes, and law enforcement is having to come into more contact with them, then that number is going to be higher. Who in the world in their right mind would think that our shootings should be right along the U.S. Census lines? That’s insanity, right, but everyone’s just buying off on this. > > “And, by the way, all the research says — including Roland Fryer, an African American Harvard professor, Heather MacDonald, and the National Academy of Sciences, all of their research says **we’re shooting African Americans about 24% less than we probably ought to be** based on the crimes being committed.” My emphasis. Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44533 "2020-06-11T13:32:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Maybe they can find a venue that will make a crowd of 500 look like 50,000. Mirrored walls? [Or maybe this?](https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/05/19/photos-restaurants-are-using-mannequins-blow-up-dolls-and-more-to-enforce-social-distancing/#7ff1ed782b77) ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44534 "2020-06-11T13:43:53Z")
Trump officials (including Attorney General Barr) declare there is no systemic racism in policing. > **[Trump officials claim there is no systemic racism in policing as protests...](https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/501547-trump-officials-claim-there-is-no-systemic-racism-in-policing-as/)** > > Several Trump administration officials on Sunday denied the existence of systemic racism in law enforcement, even as protests across the U.S. demand broad changes to policing and the… Analysis of police data submitted to the FBI shows that in 800 jurisdictions, black people are arrested at a rate five times higher than white people. In 250 jurisdictions, black people are arrested at ten times the rate of white people. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/abc-news-analysis-of-police-arrests-nationwide-reveals-stark-racial-disparity/ar-BB15kY3W?ocid=spartandhp](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/abc-news-analysis-of-police-arrests-nationwide-reveals-stark-racial-disparity/ar-BB15kY3W?ocid=spartandhp) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44535 "2020-06-11T13:49:01Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > [Or maybe this?](https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/05/19/photos-restaurants-are-using-mannequins-blow-up-dolls-and-more-to-enforce-social-distancing/#7ff1ed782b77) I suggested somewhere that empty seats could be filled by Korean sex dolls, but the idea was quickly deflated. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44536 "2020-06-11T13:57:38Z")
You people are missing the incredible fundraising opportunity they have here. I Australia, the National Rugby League football competition has just restarted, and they have the stadium seats filled with cutout images of the fans. For $22, you can upload your picture, and they stick it on a weatherproof backing, and place it in the stands. Trump could do this for his rallies. For the bargain price of, say, 200 bucks, you could pay for your avatar to be part of the crowd. They could even have a tiered system, where you pay more to be near the front, or behind Trump when he speaks. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44537 "2020-06-11T14:08:35Z")
Joint Chiefs Chairman has apologized for his role in the photo op. That’s good news! Right? I can’t find a cite yet. I’ll keep looking. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44538 "2020-06-11T14:11:41Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You people are missing the incredible fundraising opportunity they have here. > > I Australia, the National Rugby League football competition has just restarted, and they have the stadium seats filled with cutout images of the fans. For $22, you can upload your picture, and they stick it on a weatherproof backing, and place it in the stands. > > Trump could do this for his rallies. For the bargain price of, say, 200 bucks, you could pay for your avatar to be part of the crowd. They could even have a tiered system, where you pay more to be near the front, or behind Trump when he speaks. Knowing how bad Trumps people are at vetting things, I can think of PLENTY of faces I would put in that crowd… ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44539 "2020-06-11T14:15:39Z")
Here’s one cite: > **[Milley Apologizes for Role in Trump Photo Op: ‘I Should Not Have Been There’...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/politics/trump-milley-military-protests-lafayette-square.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur)** > > President Trump’s walk across Lafayette Square, current and former military leaders say, has started a moment of reckoning in the military. Trump is not going to like that Milley has apologized for this. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44540 "2020-06-11T14:54:05Z")
According to a tweet from CNN’s Jim Sciutto, the GOP-led Senate Armed Services Committee is defying Trump and adopting an amendment to remove the names of Confederate generals from military assets within three years: > This ought to be fun when trump gets wind of it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44541 "2020-06-11T15:41:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I suggested somewhere that empty seats could be filled by Korean sex dolls, but the idea was quickly deflated. We had to puncture your ambitions. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44542 "2020-06-11T15:44:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I suggested somewhere that empty seats could be filled by Korean sex dolls, but the idea was quickly deflated. That might have blown up in their faces. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44543 "2020-06-11T16:19:39Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I suggested somewhere that empty seats could be filled by Korean sex dolls, but the idea was quickly deflated. I always knew trump’s followers were as empty-headed and full of hot air as he is. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44544 "2020-06-11T16:27:45Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > That might have blown up in their faces. Bunch of softies. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44545 "2020-06-11T16:30:17Z")
[GOP votes to scale back Charlotte convention, move Trump acceptance speech](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/502206-gop-votes-to-scale-back-charlotte-convention-move-trump-acceptance-speech) This is definitely going to piss off the Orange-faced Shitgibbon. Maybe even more than NASCAR eliminating the KKK flag. Maybe even more than Miley refusing to go along with future photo ops Maybe even more than the Armed Services Committee renaming bases Maybe even more than the mayor of Seattle telling him to “go back to your bunker” I get the feeling that Trump has used this moment to demand that people choose sides even harder than before. He’s always been devisive, but now more organizations, people, companies, and military need to decide which side they are on. And they are not choosing Trump. I quite hope that a tipping point is reached sooner rather than later, and Trump is effectively isolated in his bunker until the end of the election. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44546 "2020-06-11T16:44:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > [GOP votes to scale back Charlotte convention, move Trump acceptance speech](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/502206-gop-votes-to-scale-back-charlotte-convention-move-trump-acceptance-speech) > > This is definitely going to piss off the Orange-faced Shitgibbon. I thought that’s what trump wanted: [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500825-trump-says-he-will-move-republican-convention-out-of-north-carolina](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500825-trump-says-he-will-move-republican-convention-out-of-north-carolina) Or do you mean he’ll be pissed at the half-measure of scaling back the convention in Charlotte, just moving the location of his acceptance speech instead of moving the whole convention? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2226) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2228)