# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44567 "2020-06-11T20:51:51Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m not at all surprised. Most of that area is populated by knuckleheads and meth heads. That’s why Medford is usually referred to as “Methford”. Coos Bay is just the coastal version of that shithole.

Yes.

I read that this garbage even carried into Sisters. _Sisters_! It’s as boutique-ey and touristy a place as can be found!

Race war in Sisters! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44568 "2020-06-11T21:32:21Z")

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Shit in my town people were posting on the resident facebook page that they heard from a friend who is a police officer that they were coming to burn the town!!!  
This stuff is everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44569 "2020-06-11T22:34:14Z")

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With any luck, they’ll get a little of the moronitude out of their systems once they realize that everyone is laughing at them for being such dumbasses.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44570 "2020-06-11T23:46:22Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Yes.
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> I read that this garbage even carried into Sisters. _Sisters_! It’s as boutique-ey and touristy a place as can be found!
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> Race war in Sisters! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh, man; I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic. What’s next: Ashland?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44571 "2020-06-12T00:24:28Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [GOP votes to scale back Charlotte convention, move Trump acceptance speech](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/502206-gop-votes-to-scale-back-charlotte-convention-move-trump-acceptance-speech)

One thing they’ve “scaled back” – instead of actually writing a new platform, they’re going to just [re-use the old one](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/11/gops-decision-keep-its-2016-platform-is-well-little-awkward-trump/), complete with these bits of deathless prose:

> [@2016/2020 GOP Platform](#):
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> [ul]  
> [li]“The huge increase in the national debt demanded by and incurred during the current Administration has placed a significant burden on future generations.”[/li]  
> [li]“The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.”[/li]  
> [li]“The current Administration has abandoned America’s friends and rewarded its enemies.”[/li][/ul]

Was it Michael Kinsley who defined “gaffe” as “a politician accidentally telling the truth”?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44572 "2020-06-12T00:27:17Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Well, the latest one that worked was this: [Klamath Falls, Oregon Victory Declared over Antifa, Who Never Showed Up](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/klamath-falls-oregon-victory-declared-over-antifa-which-never-showed-n1226681) (NBC News).
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> > [@](#):
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> > … hellbent on razing **their idyllic town**.

Holy fuck, someone has never been to K Falls.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44573 "2020-06-12T00:30:57Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I’m embarrassed to be a Texan on many days. ☹

Hey now, Texas is the only state that can claim it was once one of those “shithole countries” Trump goes on about.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44574 "2020-06-12T00:44:27Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Oh, man; I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic. What’s next: Ashland?

Probably. During the Shakespeare Festival. (Which is not even happening this year, I don’t think.)

Because… Soros?

I don’t know. How ignorant do you have to be to show up at an antifa attack that never materialized and claim a victory? Sure, they’ll buy Soros! Again! Why stop there? Let’s head to Seaside!

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Holy fuck, someone has never been to K Falls.

LOL, you’re so right!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44575 "2020-06-12T00:56:14Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Hey, I wonder if Miller’s special Unity Speech will finally break out the N-word? THAT would really “rally the base!”

Yes, it would.

Today William Barr gave us a preview of the direction Trump’s administration is taking on “race relations”:

> [@](#):
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> … Attorney General William Barr, who accompanied Trump to the [Dallas] event, backed up the president’s emphasis on law and order. Barr said what happened to Floyd shouldn’t obscure the fact that police offers are decent people “who put their lives on the line for us.”
> 
> “We can’t let this event obscure the fact that the real oppression and danger to our communities comes more from violent crime and lawlessness than it does from the police,” Barr said.

> **[Trump Says He'll Pursue Police Use-of-force Standard](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/health/trump-says-hell-pursue-police-use-of-force-standard/2429512/)**
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> President Donald Trump says he will pursue an executive order to encourage police departments to meet “the most current professional standards for the use of force.”

(my emphasis)

FoxNews is providing full support for the invented “ongoing rioting and looting are the real problem” narrative. From a June 10 report:

> [@](#):
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> … Watch Fox News for a few hours, and you might think rioters are still prowling America’s biggest cities, smashing windows and stealing handbags. You might think Minneapolis is still burning. You might think the unrest is getting worse.  
> In the “Fox & Friends” and “Hannity” alternative universe, the rioting is still a present-tense threat and could restart at any time. This is contradicted by every news report from every other outlet. The story now is about peaceful, powerful, sustained protest all across the country. But “riot porn” video is irresistible to Fox’s producers and hosts, even though the video is out of date now.
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> …The video is often accompanied by talk of “unrest,” violence and inner-city chaos. One of the banners on Sean Hannity’s show Tuesday night said “GROWING LAWLESSNESS IN MAJOR CITIES.” …

> **[Conservative media is living in the past as unrest subsides across the US](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/10/media/conservative-media-reliable-sources/index.html)**
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> In the "Fox & Friends" and "Hannity" alternative universe, the rioting is still a present-tense threat and could restart at any time.

So Barr has declared that supposedly-rampant “violent crime and lawlessness” is the Administration’s focus, and Fox is offering backup for this fakery with ongoing “coverage” of looting that has stopped happening.

No reform of the police—in these circumstances, the police need even MORE military equipment so that they can Crack Down with even greater violence! To protect us!

(The CNN article has material that’s well worth reading on the fakery surrounding Antifa, as well as on the ease with which FOX and OANN manipulate Trump.)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44576 "2020-06-12T01:08:48Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I don’t know. How ignorant do you have to be to show up at an antifa attack that never materialized and claim a victory?

When asked, the most successful elephant invasion prevention specialist in all of Nevada had no comment.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44577 "2020-06-12T01:26:11Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> When asked, the most successful elephant invasion prevention specialist in all of Nevada had no comment.

Ohhh, you have given me a great idea. A special amulet to keep Antifa away. Available online. For only 3 payments of $29.99. Operators are standing by.

I wonder if I can buy a mailing list from the GOP?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44578 "2020-06-12T01:27:13Z")

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Oh, and I hope my company does not make a mistake and keep charging these people $29.99 a month in perpetuity. My company is based outside of the USA, so it’s gonna be really tough for them to sue me.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44579 "2020-06-12T01:28:32Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Ohhh, you have given me a great idea. A special amulet to keep Antifa away.

I think it should look like [this](https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1geM0M4jaK1RjSZKzq6xVwXXak.jpg_q50.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44580 "2020-06-12T01:41:20Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> A special amulet to keep Antifa away.

“Oh, this little thing? It’s just my antiantifacharm.”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44581 "2020-06-12T01:46:24Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Trump may use his rally on June 19th in Tulsa as the occasion to read Stephen Miller’s speech on race relations.
> 
> Tulsa, site of the 1921 massacre.  
> Juneteenth – Emancipation Day.
> 
> For any other president, the time and place would be significant; ideal for setting the country on the path towards a new era. Somehow, I don’t think Trump is going to be able to do that.

Oh, he’ll be setting the country on a path to a new era, alright. You won’t like the era, nor even the path, though.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44582 "2020-06-12T02:46:21Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> So Barr has declared that supposedly-rampant “violent crime and lawlessness” is the Administration’s focus, and Fox is offering backup for this fakery with ongoing “coverage” of looting that has stopped happening.
> 
> No reform of the police—in these circumstances, the police need even MORE military equipment so that they can Crack Down with even greater violence! To protect us!

Right, and one of the things that most worries me is that Trump or Trump-assigned minions are going to get fed up with the lack of protester violence and decide they need to gin up some action by any means necessary.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44583 "2020-06-12T02:59:03Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Right, and one of the things that most worries me is that Trump or Trump-assigned minions are going to get fed up with the lack of protester violence and decide they need to gin up some action by any means necessary.

He’s already threatening to go into Seattle and take over.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44584 "2020-06-12T04:43:54Z")

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North Korea says it sees no benefit in engaging with Washington.  
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-12/north-korea-says-it-sees-no-benefit-from-engaging-with-trump](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-12/north-korea-says-it-sees-no-benefit-from-engaging-with-trump)

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44585 "2020-06-12T04:55:37Z")

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Trump [says to rally-goers](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/trump-campaign-rally-coronavirus/index.html), “It’s not my fault if you get sick!”

Which… I actually kinda agree with. But his whole point is that attendees have to sign a waiver promising not to sue his ass.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44586 "2020-06-12T05:03:37Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Trump [says to rally-goers](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/trump-campaign-rally-coronavirus/index.html), “It’s not my fault if you get sick!”
> 
> Which… I actually kinda agree with. But his whole point is that attendees have to sign a waiver promising not to sue his ass.

Let them sign. ENCOURAGE supporters to sign!

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