# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2233
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44647 "2020-06-12T23:18:26Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > A. P. Hill was killed when trying to get Union forces to surrender during the Third Battle of Petersburg and the fort is about halfway between there and his Culpeper, his birthplace. > > I’m okay with keeping the fort in his name. My great-great grandfather, of the 2nd New York Heavy Artillery, was captured by troops under the command of A.P. Hill at the [Battle of Jerusalem Plank Road](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jerusalem_Plank_Road) just after the Second Battle of Petersburg. He died of scurvy a few months later in Andersonville Prison Camp. So fuck A.P. Hill and everyone that fought with him. It would be better to name the fort after my great-great grandfather or anyone else who fought on behalf of the United States in that battle rather than someone who fought against it. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44648 "2020-06-12T23:20:52Z")
Frankly, I think it’s a insult and a slap in the face to women, blacks, and the whole civil rights movement, for anyone in this current foetid administration to pretend they are oh-so-woke by putting Harriet Tubman on a bill. Far better to let it wait until we have a president and an administration that are actually favorable to all those things. Hopefully, just 8 months from now and we can get the ball rolling on that. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44649 "2020-06-12T23:31:15Z")
Huh? They’re not releasing a new twenty-dollar bill now. It’s been delayed until [sometime during the second Biden administration](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/us/harriet-tubman-bill.html). ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44650 "2020-06-13T00:04:11Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Huh? They’re not releasing a new twenty-dollar bill now. It’s been delayed until [sometime during the second Biden administration](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/us/harriet-tubman-bill.html). Considering Biden’s age, it could be the first Stacey Abrams or Kamala Harris administration.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44651 "2020-06-13T00:05:51Z")
Either way, it ain’t going to be while Donald Trump is in office. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44652 "2020-06-13T00:08:32Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Considering Biden’s age, it could be the first Stacey Abrams or Kamala Harris administration.😃 Or the second Obama administration… led by the second Obama. Hey, I can dream… ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44653 "2020-06-13T00:20:14Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Actually, there are 10 bases named for enemies of the United States of America. > > Fort Lee > Fort Hood > Fort Benning > Fort Gordon > Fort Bragg > Fort Polk > Fort Pickett > Fort A.P. Hill > Fort Rucker > Camp Beauregard > > We really should have a Fort Cornwallis and Camp Benedict Arnold too. How about renaming them for former slaves, Civil Rights figures, lynching victims, and similar? Fort Crispus Attucks Fort Rosa Parks Fort Malcolm X Fort George Floyd …and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44654 "2020-06-13T00:28:28Z")
Individual 1: The concept of a chokehold sounds so innocent, so perfect. > **[Trump says police chokeholds sound 'innocent' and 'perfect,' but he is open...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/12/trump-discusses-police-chokehold-ban-after-george-floyd-protests.html)** > > Local and state governments have started to ban police chokeholds following the death of George Floyd. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44655 "2020-06-13T00:38:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Fort Hitler > Fort Himmler > Fort Goering > Fort Goebbels > Fort Mussolini > Fort Wilhelm II > > Yeah, I can see Trump getting behind that idea. Probably not Fort Tojo, Fort Geronimo, Fort Santa Anna, or Fort Nat Turner, though. And we already have a theme song! Fort Göring has only got one bomb! Fort Hitler’s [are] so very small Fort Himmler’s so very similar And Fort Goebbels has no bombs at all! From this we can assume that Fort Goebbels is the new home of Space Force! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44656 "2020-06-13T00:42:38Z")
Fort Hoffman (steal this fort) Fort Burroughs (in the Interzone) Fort Kesey (the very best koolaid) Fort Hill (you dreamed you saw last night) Fort Zinn (the People’s fort) Fort Geronimo (ride the Cadillac) Fort Plame (no one outed here) start honoring people actually seeking a better America ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44657 "2020-06-13T01:01:21Z")
Master of [saying that out loud](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/10/25/after-american-troop-withdrawal-trump-shifts-focus-to-syria-oil-fields/) mentions Syria, “ **We’ve secured the oil, and, therefore, a small number of U.S. troops will remain in the area where they have the oil. And we’re going to be protecting it, and we’ll be deciding what we’re going to do with it in the future.** ” ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44658 "2020-06-13T01:07:43Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > A. P. Hill was killed when trying to get Union forces to surrender during the Third Battle of Petersburg and the fort is about halfway between there and his Culpeper, his birthplace. > > I’m okay with keeping the fort in his name. I’m really curious about the circumstances where a Confederate general was calling on Union troops to surrender one week before the surrender at Appomattox. Also, according to Wiki, A.P. Hill was interred in an upright position, per the instructions of his will. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44659 "2020-06-13T01:10:38Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Also, according to Wiki, A.P. Hill was interred in an upright position, per the instructions of his will. The Colma City Council takes note. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44660 "2020-06-13T01:12:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Fort Hoffman (steal this fort) > Fort Burroughs (in the Interzone) > Fort Kesey (the very best koolaid) > Fort Hill (you dreamed you saw last night) > Fort Zinn (the People’s fort) > Fort Geronimo (ride the Cadillac) > Fort Plame (no one outed here) > > start honoring people actually seeking a better America Yay for Fort Hoffman! ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44661 "2020-06-13T02:08:02Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Does anyone know the exact location of his demise? I’m sure everyone wants to know what a Hill dies on. Nice! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44662 "2020-06-13T02:50:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Fort Hoffman (steal this fort) > Fort Burroughs (in the Interzone) > Fort Kesey (the very best koolaid) > Fort Hill (you dreamed you saw last night) > Fort Zinn (the People’s fort) > Fort Geronimo (ride the Cadillac) > Fort Plame (no one outed here) Oh! ABBIE Hoffman. I thought you were talking about the guy who invented LSD. Who was probably more important to American history than Abbie. Especially LOVE the idea of naming a fort after Joe Hill, the most famous Wobblie ever. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44663 "2020-06-13T02:58:36Z")
Seattle protesters established a few police-free blocks, now known as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ. The CFSG is of course acting all hostile toward them. Meanwhile in the Sahara, the citizens of that large country between Sudan and Niger, aware of the porosity of this creature’s brain, are preparing for the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44664 "2020-06-13T02:58:42Z")
Fort Woody Guthrie works for me, too. As well as Fort Seeger. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44665 "2020-06-13T03:43:20Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Yay for Fort Hoffman! Pretty sure you meant Yippie. ETA: and I was stationed at Ft. Lee for a year. I never gave it much thought, but I just assumed it was named for Bruce Lee. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44666 "2020-06-13T04:43:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This is pretty funny. 🙂 > > > [@](#): > > > > Trump aides have reportedly turned off notifications for his tweets: ‘What’s the point?’ > > > > President Trump is reportedly getting put on mute by his most loyal followers. > > > > Trump is known for having zero restraint when it comes to tweeting on @RealDonaldTrump, tossing around conspiracy theories and flat-out misinformation, sometimes in bulk. As multiple presidential aides tell ABC News, the rampant tweeting has led them to turn off notifications for Trump’s account, with one adviser asking “What’s the point?” > > Now if everybody else in the world would just put him on mute, we might get somewhere. I’ll be honest; I have a hard time believing this. These are the people who have to clean up Trump’s messes. There’s no way they’re going to want to be caught by surprise. If Trump puts something on Twitter at two am, they’re going to want to be reading it at 2:01 so they can start working on the “what the president meant was…” version and have it ready for the morning press releases. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2232) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2234)