# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2239
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44767 "2020-06-15T00:30:24Z")
I really think the diaper issue can’t be true. If it was, by now some housekeeper aide or the like would have leaked the info (probably with pictures) for a nice payoff. Those things are bulky to dispose of (says someone who took care of an incontinent relative for a few years) so there’s no way they wouldn’t be noticed. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44768 "2020-06-15T00:44:56Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I really think the diaper issue can’t be true. If it was, by now some housekeeper aide or the like would have leaked the info (probably with pictures) for a nice payoff. Those things are bulky to dispose of (says someone who took care of an incontinent relative for a few years) so there’s no way they wouldn’t be noticed. In don’t know, I’ve seen multiple cites on the internet. Many people are talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44769 "2020-06-15T00:51:03Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > In don’t know, I’ve seen multiple cites on the internet. Many people are talking about it. Smart People! With tears in their eyes! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44770 "2020-06-15T01:12:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > In don’t know, I’ve seen multiple cites on the internet. Many people are talking about it. Quite a few people are also Asking Questions about it at this point. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44771 "2020-06-15T01:34:38Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > On the emphasized (by me) bit: you may be recalling Graham Chapman (as King Arthur), on meeting Tim the Enchanter (John Cleese), making an aside to Michael Palin’s Galahad: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1pCX\_g9NOU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1pCX_g9NOU) > (If I’ve used that once IRL I’ve used it 40,000 times.) > And on the topic of Trump’s medical issues: yes, it IS important, not only because of the usual concerns over a Chief Executive being incapable of his duties, because _Trump’s base cares about the appearance of strength_. > > If he doesn’t have it, they will stay home. I figured it out, it follows [this taunt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGXx56WqqJw&t=74s). In fact, the speech and behavior of Cleese’s French knight bears a disturbing resemblance to CFSG. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44772 "2020-06-15T02:22:02Z")
Just saw this clip. > **[Trump lashes out after critics highlight unsteady walk down West Point ramp](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/14/trump-unsteady-walk-down-west-point-ramp)** > > Trump didn’t want to ‘fall for the Fake News to have fun with’ as speculation about his health has dogged his time in office Typical Trumpian response - The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery,” Mr. Trump wrote. “The last thing I was going to do is ‘fall’ for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!” That is his idea of steep and running? Why “fall” is in quotes, no idea. And he once criticized Obama for running down stairs. He is beyond parody. > ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44773 "2020-06-15T02:42:14Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Just saw this clip. > > [Trump lashes out after critics highlight unsteady walk down West Point ramp | US military | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/14/trump-unsteady-walk-down-west-point-ramp) > > Typical Trumpian response - The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery,” If it was steep and slippery, then there should be video of other people negotiating it carefully. Is there? My expert opinion, between the ramp and the two-fisted drinking, is bleach poisoning. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44774 "2020-06-15T02:51:37Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Just saw this clip. > > [Trump lashes out after critics highlight unsteady walk down West Point ramp | US military | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/14/trump-unsteady-walk-down-west-point-ramp) > > Typical Trumpian response - The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery,” Mr. Trump wrote. “The last thing I was going to do is ‘fall’ for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!” > > That is his idea of steep and running? Why “fall” is in quotes, no idea. And he once criticized Obama for running down stairs. He is beyond parody. > > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/458763139866435584](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/458763139866435584) Typical bullshit Adderall addiction response. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44775 "2020-06-15T02:52:26Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I really think the diaper issue can’t be true. If it was, by now some housekeeper aide or the like would have leaked the info (probably with pictures) for a nice payoff. I’m sure that’s one of Pence’s duties, and one he is delighted to do. ---
**Author:** ![Tilt-A-Whirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@Tilt-A-Whirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tilt-A-Whirl)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44776 "2020-06-15T03:47:57Z")
My guess on his awkward walk down the ramp is the elevator shoes he’s rumored to wear. As a guy, I tried to imagine how I would walk down that ramp in 3 inch heels, and I picture it going very much like it did for him. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44777 "2020-06-15T03:52:34Z")
Totally off-topic-Have you ever noticed how baby’s walk gets steadily more unstable as their diaper gets weighted down? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44778 "2020-06-15T03:53:01Z")
General Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and the NSA: The president was at West Point today. Benedict Arnold once was the commander. I was surprised Trump didn’t rename it in Arnold‘s honor. > ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44779 "2020-06-15T03:55:04Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Quite a few people are also Asking Questions about it at this point. Indeed, and most important, he refuses to deny the rumors. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44780 "2020-06-15T03:55:18Z")
nm, site burp ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44781 "2020-06-15T04:34:33Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Typical Trumpian response - The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery,” Mr. Trump wrote. “The last thing I was going to do is ‘fall’ for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!” > > That is his idea of steep and running? Why “fall” is in quotes, no idea. And he once criticized Obama for running down stairs. He is beyond parody. Maybe he was walking down the ramp sarcastically and we just didn’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44782 "2020-06-15T05:14:17Z")
I did find [one site](https://www.politicalflare.com/2019/09/insider-claims-trump-wears-adult-diapers-due-to-incontinence-from-repeated-stimulant-abuse/) that claims he does indeed wear diapers, based on _Apprentice_ talent handler Noel Casler’s assertion. Casler (who is also a stand-up comic) says that years of Adderall abuse have left Kumquat incontinent, about which he claims he is not joking. Which would kind of provide an out. Normally, it is very low-brow to joke about old people and diapers, but if the need is based on previous bad habits, it seems more like it would be fair game. (The site, “Political Flare”, is a blog, so it may be just a tad impeachable.) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44783 "2020-06-15T09:01:16Z")
> [@Tilt-A-Whirl](#): > > My guess on his awkward walk down the ramp is the elevator shoes he’s rumored to wear. As a guy, I tried to imagine how I would walk down that ramp in 3 inch heels, and I picture it going very much like it did for him. People who habitually wear heels as part of the work attire get a lot of practice in using them. I’ve seen plenty of people negotiate stairs and ramps in towering heels and they do it with more grace and poise than Trump toddling down that ramp. If you think you’d be awkward, well, you probably would be if you hadn’t worn footwear like that before. But if Trump is wearing elevator shoes every day then that shouldn’t be an issue… unless he has an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44784 "2020-06-15T09:22:10Z")
But Trump does wear those shoes every day and still leans forward; people who wear high shoes every day normally do not. I had a teacher (Papa Smurf) whose elevator shoes were that high, and we could never tell from his posture; we only could tell he had on elevator shoes by noticing him side-by-side with an also-tiny female teacher (Smurfette) and seeing that: - the tops of their heads were level, - their heels were as high, - but the top of Papa Smurf’s shoes followed the shape of someone wearing at least 2" more worth of heel. Either he had the thickest feet ever or he had elevator shoes; based on hand size, the second. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44785 "2020-06-15T09:39:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > General Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and the NSA: > The president was at West Point today. Benedict Arnold once was the commander. I was surprised Trump didn’t rename it in Arnold‘s honor. > [https://twitter.com/GenMhayden/status/1271947222058491906](https://twitter.com/GenMhayden/status/1271947222058491906) Is this in the running for ‘most contemptuous fling at Trump by a military member so far’? Because it sure seems like it. That actually made my jaw drop slightly - it’s next level beyond ‘don’t vote for Trump because he’s terrible’ and into ‘not even taking the bastard seriously’ territory. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44786 "2020-06-15T12:48:27Z")
Hayden is retired from the military, so I don’t think there is any impropriety in his comment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2238) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2240)