# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4541 "2017-05-15T18:06:56Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Countdown to Spicer firing](http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/sean-spicer-the-next-to-be-fired-sources-say-in-most-far-reaching-white-house-purge-yet) in 5…4…3…2…1…
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> Who is going to be the replacement for Old Spice? My bet is that it will be a blonde woman with enhancements from Fox news. She’ll probably get better ratings than Spicey. It’s all about the ratings.

Does it matter who?

It will be a stooge, who will lie for Trump, only to have Trump tell a different lie… and then rage at the stooge for not predicting what the Orange Shitstain was gonna say. For anyone who takes that job, it will be a sell out, and the end to their career and their credibility.

You’d have to be stupid to take that job.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4542 "2017-05-15T18:16:04Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> It will be a stooge, who will lie for Trump, only to have Trump tell a different lie… and then rage at the stooge for not predicting what the Orange Shitstain was gonna say. For anyone who takes that job, it will be a sell out, and the end to their career and their credibility.
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> You’d have to be stupid to take that job.

Sounds like a job for Sarah Huckabee Sanders!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4543 "2017-05-15T18:18:55Z")

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It keeps getting better.

**President Trump reportedly eschews exercise because he believes it drains the body’s “finite” energy…**  
[http://wapo.st/2qbSKW1](http://wapo.st/2qbSKW1)

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> President Trump reportedly eschews exercise because he believes it drains the body’s “finite” energy resources, but experts say this argument is flawed because the human body actually becomes stronger with exercise.
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> Trump’s views on exercise were mentioned in a New Yorker article this month and in “Trump Revealed,” The Washington Post’s 2016 biography of the president, which noted that Trump mostly gave up athletics after college because he “believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted.”  
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Gotta conserve those precious bodily fluids. Well, some of them anyway.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4544 "2017-05-15T18:22:48Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Gotta conserve those precious bodily fluids. **Well, some of them anyway.**

Ewwww. There’s a visual I could have done without.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4545 "2017-05-15T18:24:46Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Ewwww. There’s a visual I could have done without.

Cue the Russian piss videos, on Fox, during prime time.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4546 "2017-05-15T20:26:56Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Ewwww. There’s a visual I could have done without.

Put down the magnifying glass and you will be fine.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4547 "2017-05-15T21:48:03Z")

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From the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.bbbfacfa0fac).

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> **Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador**
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> “This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4548 "2017-05-15T21:58:48Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> From the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.bbbfacfa0fac).

What a Freak’in Dolt :smack:

There again, this may be the gift that we’ve all been waiting for. 😉

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4549 "2017-05-15T22:00:26Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> From the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.bbbfacfa0fac).

I think you left off the biggest thing in that article:

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> Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4550 "2017-05-15T22:03:28Z")

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Today’s phone calls to my representatives will be on the subject of impeachment. I think it’s time.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4551 "2017-05-15T22:03:49Z")

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And the source will not be happy that Trump decided his buddies really needed to know.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4552 "2017-05-15T22:06:18Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> From the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.bbbfacfa0fac).

But unfortunately (from same article):

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> For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4553 "2017-05-15T22:07:15Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> From the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.bbbfacfa0fac).

Wow. And that’s just fine with the republican “leadership?”

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4554 "2017-05-15T22:07:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> What a Freak’in Dolt :smack:

Well, this should encourage other informants to risk their lives to give us intel.

But no worries, I’m sure the Republicans in Congress will be all over the possible mishandling of classified information.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4555 "2017-05-15T22:09:37Z")

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So he could just give them our nuclear codes and nothing would come from it? I don’t buy it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4556 "2017-05-15T22:12:18Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> But unfortunately (from same article):
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> > [@](#):
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> > As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

I doubt he declassified anything, let alone _thought_ of declassifying anything, before talking.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4557 "2017-05-15T22:25:12Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I doubt he declassified anything, let alone _thought_ of declassifying anything, before talking.

Yep. Hopefully there’s some difference between declassifying something and blabbing your mouth like a fucking idiot. I’m guessing not, though.

Get this joker out of the office already. Jesus H.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4558 "2017-05-15T22:25:45Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I doubt he declassified anything, let alone _thought_ of declassifying anything, before talking.

Sounds like he started out bragging…

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> “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” the president was quoted as saying, before elaborating with highly classified details.
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> Following the meeting, the White House contacted the CIA and National Security Agency to contain the damage, according to the Post.
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> Two U.S. officials confirmed the surprise disclosure to BuzzFeed News, which said the Senate Intelligence Committee was briefed following Trump’s discussion with the Russians.
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> “It’s far worse than what has already been reported,” one source told BuzzFeed.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4559 "2017-05-15T22:26:28Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I doubt he declassified anything, let alone _thought_ of declassifying anything, before talking.

Especially since if any information or documents were declassified, then they could easily be the subject of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request and then be released to the public.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4560 "2017-05-15T22:32:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> What a Freak’in Dolt :smack:
> 
> There again, this may be the gift that we’ve all been waiting for. 😉

Paul Ryan wouldn’t lead a vote for impeachment in the House if Trump handed over his children to Putin to chop up and cook in his borscht, and Mitch McConnell wouldn’t allow the Senate vote to convict if you threatened him with pictures of supporting campaign finance reform and praising progressivism (he did both back in the 'Seventies). There is pretty much no low to which Trump can sink that will result in his impeachment or lawful removal from office in at least the next twenty months. In fact, it could come out with incontrovertible evidence that the Trump family were actually Soviet deep sleeper agents planted in the United States in the 'Fifties and who have been laying in wait to destroy the government from within, and these fuckers would still support him.

Stranger

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