# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 244
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4861 "2017-05-17T16:27:30Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > [“I was in the room. It did not happen,” McMaster said in a brief statement.](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-white-house-denies-trump-shared-1494888760-htmlstory.html) > > You are either an inveterate troll or a terminally ignorant cunt, and either way we’d all be improved to see less of you. “I do desire we might be better strangers." > > Stranger [Moderating] Don’t call other posters “cunts.” No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4862 "2017-05-17T16:42:27Z")
I think Stranger was talking about McMaster… Eta: Never mind, it wasn’t clear from how you cited it. I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4863 "2017-05-17T16:49:35Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I thought they installed a new one last week - no hack needed. Not needed either. At this point it’s pretty clear the head of the SVD could email Trump saying “I is sure they don’t tell you every last US black op Donuchka, they laughing at you these CIA men, they think you loser” and Trump would fire back within 30 seconds with a resounding “Nuh uh !” and a zip file containing every last intel briefing he’s received yet. Who’s the loser _now_, Vlad ?! Possibly as a tweet so everyone can see how not a loser he is. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4864 "2017-05-17T16:55:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I think Stranger was talking about McMaster… > > Eta: Never mind, it wasn’t clear from how you cited it. I stand corrected. A friend of McMaster’s was on NPR this morning, giving a rather impassioned (and I felt, convincing) plea on his behalf. The friend said that McMaster knows he’s in an impossible situation, but he’s a good, thoughtful, sane and patriotic man doing the best he can – and that his presence in the White House may be the difference between muddling through, and TEOTWAWKI. The friend gave this analogy: you go to dinner at the home of a good friend who’s a terrible cook, and who asks you “I hope you enjoyed dinner”. You respond: “I loved being here with you.” Technically true, while not exactly a response to the question. That was McMaster’s response to Trump’s blabbing about secret intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4865 "2017-05-17T17:05:47Z")
AP Radio News summing up the commencement address at the Coast Guard Academy: “Be prepared for when things don’t go your way!” Other than the failed travel ban, when has anything _not_ gone his way? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4866 "2017-05-17T17:10:38Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > AP Radio News summing up the commencement address at the Coast Guard Academy: “Be prepared for when things don’t go your way!” > > Other than the failed travel ban, when has anything _not_ gone his way? He wanted _three_ scoops of ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4867 "2017-05-17T17:24:41Z")
It just occurred to me. Does anyone see the irony of the color of this president and talk of “impeachment”? I’m betting he would call that a hate crime. “You just hate my color! You’re all racists!” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4868 "2017-05-17T17:28:41Z")
I heard his favorite flavor of ice cream is “impeachmint”. Thank you, thank you! I will be here all day! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4869 "2017-05-17T17:32:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > AP Radio News summing up the commencement address at the Coast Guard Academy: “Be prepared for when things don’t go your way!” > > Other than the failed travel ban, when has anything _not_ gone his way? [Trump to Coast Guard cadets: ‘No politician in history … has been treated worse or more unfairly’](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-to-coast-guard-cadets-no-1495038386-htmlstory.html) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4870 "2017-05-17T17:33:37Z")
At least in the last few months. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4871 "2017-05-17T18:25:56Z")
On May 11, former DOJ spokesman Matthew Miller tweeted that James Comey was known to keep a paper trail whenever he deemed something inappropriate. Miller said, “stay tuned”. Four days later, Miller was proven right when Comey’s memo became public. Miller now says that there’s a good chance Comey has been building a case against Trump since Day 1 and that Comey is sitting on a stash of memos that are probably even more damaging to Trump. Miller speculates that Comey told Trump he wasn’t the target of an investigation because he wanted Trump to keep talking and digging himself deeper. Miller thinks there is a good chance Comey has been girding up to take down the President. More from Miller here: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/17/the-guy-who-predicted-comeys-memos-thinks-comey-may-be-trying-to-take-down-president-trump/?tid=sm\_fb&utm\_term=.a4b89f3bb94f](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/17/the-guy-who-predicted-comeys-memos-thinks-comey-may-be-trying-to-take-down-president-trump/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.a4b89f3bb94f) In my mind, Comey’s insistence on only testifying publicly lines up with Miller’s views. First, Miller says that Comey IS a showboat. Also, if you’re getting ready to drop the hammer on the President, I imagine doing so in public gives you some measure of protection from retaliation. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4872 "2017-05-17T18:27:22Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Trump to Coast Guard cadets: ‘No politician in history … has been treated worse or more unfairly’](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-to-coast-guard-cadets-no-1495038386-htmlstory.html) I’ll consider this when someone spends 5 years trying to prove President Goldfish wasn’t born in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4873 "2017-05-17T18:37:38Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > I’ll consider this when someone spends 5 years trying to prove President Goldfish wasn’t born in the US. If il Doofus was bored by a play exceeding his attention span at Ford’s Theater, he’d declare it to be the most dreadful ordeal any President had ever endured there. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4874 "2017-05-17T18:55:49Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He wanted _three_ scoops of ice cream. [Have all you want, Donny.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q) > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Trump to Coast Guard cadets: ‘No politician in history … has been treated worse or more unfairly’](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-to-coast-guard-cadets-no-1495038386-htmlstory.html) [Meltdown time. Little Donny need a nap?](https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-03/enhanced/webdr02/27/16/anigif_enhanced-737-1395952423-19.gif) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4875 "2017-05-17T18:57:03Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Gotta drop this in _somewhere_, and this looks like as good a place as any: > > Apparently Trump was going to give a speech at [Masada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masada), but due to heat concerns, [it’s been moved](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/387880) to the Israel Museum in Jerusalem. > > He was going to give a speech at _Masada??_ My mind boggles. Although I guess it would have been appropriate, in a perverse way, for a man whose Presidency is already under siege. > > I suppose he and his entourage could have, um, _re-enacted_ the ending of the siege of Masada in order to avoid having to return to the shitshow at home. 😃 Masada is to Israelis pretty much what the Alamo is to Texans. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4876 "2017-05-17T19:02:15Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Miller now says that there’s a good chance Comey has been building a case against Trump since Day 1 … Wow. Comey might end up having been instrumental in the accession of _ **TWO** _ US presidents! ---
**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4877 "2017-05-17T19:10:40Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > I’ll consider this when someone spends 5 years trying to prove President Goldfish wasn’t born in the US. While I don’t doubt his geographic qualifications, based on his behavior I do question whether or not he meets the Constitutionally-required minimum of 35 years of age. So I’d still like to see a birth certificate. ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4878 "2017-05-17T19:19:42Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I have. It doesn’t change my opinion. There is nothing in the tweets that says “I improperly revealed classified information” - not unless one is afflicted with the Trump Derangement Syndrome. As many on this board obviously are. I can live with TDS. I think that’s better than belonging to a cult where the people bowed and prayed, to the neon Gawd they made. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4879 "2017-05-17T19:19:55Z")
Stocks, dollar [sink](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-idUSKCN18D01B) as investors rethink ‘Trump trade’. Hmmmm. Now Wall Street is pissed off at the Boy King. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4880 "2017-05-17T19:24:38Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Trump to Coast Guard cadets: ‘No politician in history … has been treated worse or more unfairly’](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-to-coast-guard-cadets-no-1495038386-htmlstory.html) Famous Presidential aphorisms: “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” “The buck stops here.” “If you want a friend in this town, get a dog.” “Waaaaaaahhh!! Everybody’s being mean to me.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=243) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=245)