# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4901 "2017-05-17T22:34:40Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Former FBI Director Robert Mueller is now in charge of the Trump/Russia investigation.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html?_r=0)

Everything I’m hearing/reading/seeing suggests he is a very good pick.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4902 "2017-05-17T22:38:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Everything I’m hearing/reading/seeing suggests he is a very good pick.

And he was named by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who, if anyone deserves a free kick to Trump, Right Square In The Nutz.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4903 "2017-05-17T22:51:36Z")

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You remember Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. ? Yeah, that asshole. Well he just [accepted a Department of Homeland Security job](http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/05/17/sheriff-david-clarke-accepts-job-department-homeland-security/328342001/).

[Prick](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/david-clarke-jr/statements/).

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4904 "2017-05-17T23:09:28Z")

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How much of a tantrum do y’all think Twitler is having now?

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4905 "2017-05-17T23:12:50Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Everything I’m hearing/reading/seeing suggests he is a very good pick.

… and when he finds nothing (ok, it is probable he is going to charge Flynn or Manifort with something, after all, he has to show _some_ results) very damaging, will he be condemned as Republican scum or Putin’s stooge?

I find that very likely.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4906 "2017-05-17T23:18:04Z")

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Nobody cares what you think, Shitstain.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4907 "2017-05-17T23:18:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> You remember Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. ? Yeah, that asshole. Well he just [accepted a Department of Homeland Security job](http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/05/17/sheriff-david-clarke-accepts-job-department-homeland-security/328342001/).
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> [Prick](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/david-clarke-jr/statements/).

And that fascist piece of shit has ties to Russia TOO.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4908 "2017-05-17T23:18:59Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … and when he finds nothing (ok, it is probable he is going to charge Flynn or Manifort with something, after all, he has to show _some_ results) very damaging, will he be condemned as Republican scum or Putin’s stooge?
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> I find that very likely.

He has enough integrity that I would stand by his findings.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4909 "2017-05-17T23:36:31Z")

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What’re the odds that Mueller’s already received and declined an invitation to have dinner with POTUS?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4910 "2017-05-17T23:47:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> You remember Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. ? Yeah, that asshole. Well he just [accepted a Department of Homeland Security job](http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/05/17/sheriff-david-clarke-accepts-job-department-homeland-security/328342001/).
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> [Prick](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/david-clarke-jr/statements/).

Unsuprising. He [ran his own Gulag](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2017-03-16/lawsuit-woman-shackled-during-pregnancy-at-milwaukee-jail) in Milwaukee, probably appealed to Trump’s slavic sensibilities.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4911 "2017-05-18T00:06:09Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … and when he finds nothing (ok, it is probable he is going to charge Flynn or Manifort with something, after all, he has to show _some_ results) very damaging, will he be condemned as Republican scum or Putin’s stooge?
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> I find that very likely.

Eat shit, you partisan stooge.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4912 "2017-05-18T00:08:43Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Eat shit, you partisan stooge.

But, that would be cannibalism.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4913 "2017-05-18T01:07:49Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> But, that would be cannibalism.

nm

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4914 "2017-05-18T01:11:12Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Former FBI Director Robert Mueller is now in charge of the Trump/Russia investigation.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html?_r=0)

OK, so (so far) the system does work, after all.

At this point, appointing a special counsel makes eminent sense (to me at least). I’m well aware of the ludicrous fishing expedition that the Whitewater enquiry turned into, but one hopes that such can be avoided in this case.

> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … and when he finds nothing (ok, it is probable he is going to charge Flynn or Manifort with something, after all, he has to show _some_ results) very damaging, will he be condemned as Republican scum or Putin’s stooge?
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> I find that very likely.

You truly are pathetic. Please, think for just a minute and try real hard to stop being such a fool.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4915 "2017-05-18T01:18:21Z")

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Trumps buddy Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s security guards, [pummel protesters](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/turkeys-presidential-guards-violently-clash-with-protesters-outside-embassy/2017/05/17/8420942a-3b05-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.f60890bd213c).

Batter up!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4916 "2017-05-18T01:20:32Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Unsuprising. He [ran his own Gulag](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2017-03-16/lawsuit-woman-shackled-during-pregnancy-at-milwaukee-jail) in Milwaukee, probably appealed to Trump’s slavic sensibilities.

Wow **Kobal2**! [“Woman Shackled While Giving Birth at Milwaukee Jail”](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2017-03-16/lawsuit-woman-shackled-during-pregnancy-at-milwaukee-jail). Nice.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4917 "2017-05-18T01:25:01Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Nitpick : DEFCON 5 is absolute peace and blue skies all around. Hot war is DEFCON 1.

My bad

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4918 "2017-05-18T01:27:09Z")

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[Da fuq?!](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.a7f0c64d98f7)

> [@Washington Post](#):
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> House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4919 "2017-05-18T01:40:48Z")

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When [Coultergeist hesitates (warning: Daily Caller link)](http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/14/ann-coulter-is-worried-the-trump-haters-were-right/),

> [@](#):
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> Ann Coulter was one of the most vocal supporters … She wrote “In Trump We Trust” and proclaimed that she worships him like the “people of North Korea worship their Dear Leader – blind loyalty.”
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> … _I’m not very happy with what has happened so far. I guess we have to try to push him to keep his promises. But this isn’t North Korea, and if he doesn’t keep his promises I’m out_.…

you know this administration is in trouble. Note, though, that she is unhappy that the wall is not under construction and that the budget was not adequately shafty.

But still, if she looks like she might be thinking about making backing-away moves, he is in serious trouble.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4920 "2017-05-18T01:45:13Z")

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As much as I want to believe that this is Trump’s Waterloo, I’d be careful about predicting his demise. I remember around the time of the 'grab ‘em by the pussy’ scandal making the remarks that, at that time, Trump was like a wounded lion: he might seem vulnerable but he’s going to lash out like hell, which is what he did.

Right now, he’s a wounded lion. He’s going to fight to the bitter end. And while some wuss Republicans kinda, sorta mumble about investigating Trump, the fact still remains: a lot of republicans have reason to fear getting flattened by the Trump train. He’s like human MRSA. He somehow finds a way to survive no matter what gets thrown at him.

Moreover, some of the more radical Republicans will see him as their William Wallace. The Christian radicals knew what they were getting when they threw their support behind Trump. They knew then and know now that Trump isn’t really a Christian and he lives his life about as diametrically opposed to Christian virtue as a person could be. But he’s nevertheless a good match: he’s someone who needs adulation and praise, and he’ll do just about any damn thing to get it. And they’re offering him that support, if only he’ll just agree to whatever Puritanical agenda they propose to him. “Just sign it, Big Donald, and we’re good. We’ll give you all the love you need.” That’s the same reason he keeps the company of white nationalists and other fringe groups. Among well-adjusted people, the fringes of society aren’t welcome. But to someone as mal-adjusted as The Donald, it’s a match made in heaven (or hell). They will embrace each other to the better end.

The longer this continues, the more dirt that comes out, the higher the stakes. And from the perspective of the extremists and the Donald, the more imperative it is to maintain the power that they’ve gained. I don’t think they’re just going to accept investigations and impeachment. I think they’re going to surprise us by just how far they’re willing to go to defend what they see as their rightful place at the apex of power.

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