# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5001 "2017-05-18T20:16:54Z")

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Trump is speechifyin’ right now, and he said that organized drug gangs have _literally_ taken over towns and cities in the U.S.!  
What towns and cities?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5002 "2017-05-18T20:21:29Z")

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Weed, CA and Blunt, SD?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5003 "2017-05-18T20:21:54Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> The writing is on the wall as [Advisors Urge Trump to Hire an Outside Lawyer](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/us/politics/white-house-outside-lawyer-trump.html).
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> Can you say “President Pence”?

I can, but when I do I always seem to throw up a little in my mouth.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5004 "2017-05-18T20:24:09Z")

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It makes you “mildly nauseous”?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5005 "2017-05-18T20:25:11Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I can, but when I do I always seem to throw up a little in my mouth.

Better than the projectile vomiting that pronouncing the full title of 45 causes.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5006 "2017-05-18T20:28:30Z")

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And he just said “Walls work-Just ask Israel!”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5007 "2017-05-18T20:38:53Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> But, his desire to look for another job has changed in since running for election a mere months ago. What’s changed?
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> This is one of the few things going on that I can certainly see a non-nefarious (if brazenly grotesque) rationale for, but I’m suspicious nonetheless. It’s certainly unusual.

Like you I find his departure very, very odd. Two scenarios go through my head at the moment:

1. He has his eye on another office and doesn’t want to get soaked in the Trump shit storm. He knows that by putting his fingerprints on any part of this scandal, whether it helps or hurts Trump, is a no-win situation. So he gets out of it, goes on Fox, talks about how he wanted time away from family and so forth, and waits for his opening in a few years – whatever office that could be is anyone’s guess.

2. Maybe it has nothing to do with Trump and might involve something that’s not necessarily illegal but potentially embarrassing, like an extramarital affair, which in a pretty conservative Mormon state could be ruinous.

I tend to think it’s scenario 1 but it wouldn’t completely surprise me if it’s the second one as well.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5008 "2017-05-18T20:45:11Z")

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Trump just said at his press conference that the idea of his being impeached is ridiculous. “And everybody thinks so.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5009 "2017-05-18T20:55:05Z")

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Everybody who _matters_, to him, anyway. Anyone who doesn’t think so doesn’t matter, to him.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5010 "2017-05-18T21:02:18Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I must say I am looking forward to Trump’s foreign trip. With stops in Saudi Arabia, Israel, the West Bank, and the Vatican, the opportunities for gaffes and fuckups are mind-boggling.

_I_ can’t wait to see Bibi Netanyahu’s flop sweat as he desperately attempts to smooth over said gaffes and fuckups. This is the kind of thing that can bring down governments.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5011 "2017-05-18T21:13:14Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> _I_ can’t wait to see Bibi Netanyahu’s flop sweat as he desperately attempts to smooth over said gaffes and fuckups. This is the kind of thing that can bring down governments.

While Donald sails ahead entirely out of fucks to give about what he said or did.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5012 "2017-05-18T21:30:31Z")

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The local news has been ticking me off lately. They started a story saying “Impeachment proceedings have begun against…” and I get my hopes up. It’s actually about the Principal Chief of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indians instead of the Principal Fuckup of the American Nation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5013 "2017-05-18T21:32:02Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> _I_ can’t wait to see Bibi Netanyahu’s flop sweat as he desperately attempts to smooth over said gaffes and fuckups. This is the kind of thing that can bring down governments.

Netanyahu doesn’t strike me as the type of guy to smooth things over.

Can Trump remember that it’s okay to hype Jesus at the Vatican but not so much in Israel? Not likely.

Question for the experts (you know who you are):

1. Was Mueller appointed as a _Special Counsel_ or _Special Prosecutor_?

2. Is there a difference?

I’ll take my answer off the air. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5014 "2017-05-18T21:34:44Z")

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> [@Catamount](#):
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> The local news has been ticking me off lately. They started a story saying “Impeachment proceedings have begun against…” and I get my hopes up. It’s actually about the Principal Chief of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indians instead of the Principal Fuckup of the American Nation.

That’s some Grade-A trolling by the local news. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5015 "2017-05-18T21:39:58Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Netanyahu doesn’t strike me as the type of guy to smooth things over.

I’m kinda curious what the conversation about the intelligence Trump gave the Russians is going to go like. You know, the intelligence that may well have come from Israel. And will certainly end up in Syria and Iran. Could be a little awkward.

Betcha Bibi’s having second thoughts about Obama right about now.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5016 "2017-05-18T21:40:12Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I wonder if he’ll manage to actually mention the Jews while he’s there.

I’m not sure I want that antisemite to mention Jews.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5017 "2017-05-18T21:48:06Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> While Donald sails ahead entirely out of fucks to give about what he said or did.

To be out of something implies one had the thing at one time. A more accurate description would be “still without”.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5018 "2017-05-18T22:06:50Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Pity J. Fred Buzhardt is dead.

And Saul Goodman has mysteriously disappeared.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5019 "2017-05-18T22:12:04Z")

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sigh

> [@"\[dailybeast](#):
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> ([Donald Trump Talked Michael Flynn Into White House Job—and Wants Him Back in the Administration](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/18/donald-trump-talked-michael-flynn-into-white-house-job))"]Trump doesn’t just hope that Flynn will beat the rap. Several sources close to Flynn and to the administration tell The Daily Beast that Trump has expressed his hopes that a resolution of the FBI’s investigation in Flynn’s favor might allow Flynn to rejoin the White House in some capacity

which is really sad, not because it would be

> [@](#):
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> a scenario some of Trump’s closest advisers in and outside the West Wing have assured him absolutely should not happen

but because

> [@](#):
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> “He did not want to be National Security Adviser,” Michael Ledeen, a friend of the retired Army general, told The Daily Beast on Thursday. “He didn’t want to be in the government. He wanted to go back to private life. But Trump insisted on it.”

Some folks just need to learn how to move on.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5020 "2017-05-18T22:14:02Z")

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From the Trumpster himself:

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> President Trump denied any contacts between Russia and his campaign, though he added, “ **I can only speak for myself**.”

Bumpity bumpity bump. There goes every one of his associates under the bus.

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