# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 256
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5101 "2017-05-19T19:42:52Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > A leopard doesn’t change its spots. The Trump you saw on the campaign trail was Trump in his courtship phase. The actual Trump is actually becoming much worse and far more unhinged. President Obama said it best when he pointed out that the presidency doesn’t change you. It simply amplifies the person you are. I’ve never \*not \*been disgusted by Trump. Now I’m even more disgusted, as well as aghast at the position that we, the people, have given him in to take down our country. That’s the really sad thing. Trump is a symptom, not a cause. I agree with Elijah Cummings, this is a fight for the soul of our democracy. If Trump and his supporters – and I don’t mean just the Infowars/Drudge ones, but the Mercers, Peter Thiel, Sheldon Adelson, Carl Icahn, Steven Mnuchin, T. Boone Pickens and others – prevail in their warped, selfish vision for our country, we will no longer _be_ our country. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5102 "2017-05-19T19:51:13Z")
More Breaking News from WaPo: A _current_ senior Trump advisor is under investigation in the Russia probe. (I want to watch a movie but what if I miss the next Trump bombshell?) Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5103 "2017-05-19T19:58:36Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Breaking News: Trump called Comey a crazy nut job. Said firing him relieved great pressure. He said this to the Russians! This smells like a Karl Rove/Dan Rather tactic to me. a) it’s just too perfectly damning b) Spicer didn’t deny it, and he’s never had any trouble lying before c) while the other cable news channels are going crazy over it, Fox News is covering tornadoes in Oklahoma As much as I would like it to be true, I think it’s a way for Trump to prove to the idiots in this country that anything that the media (other than Fox) reports about him is a lie. ETA: and I say that even if they have a tape. > **[Deep-Learning Algorithm Can Synthesize Any Voice Based On Just 60 Seconds Of...](https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/ai-lyrebird-duplicate-anyones-voice/)** > > An AI startup called Lyrebird just invented an algorithm that can mimic the voice of any person, based on just 60 seconds of speech. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5104 "2017-05-19T20:03:01Z")
Read by one official, confirmed by another. According to article, these are from the official WH notes of the meeting. “The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.” ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5105 "2017-05-19T20:03:29Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > c) while the other cable news channels are going crazy over it, Fox News is covering tornadoes in Oklahoma > > As much as I would like it to be true, I think it’s a way for Trump to prove to the idiots in this country that anything that the media (other than Fox) reports about him is a lie. It’s currently the top story on the [Fox News website](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/19/trump-told-russians-comey-is-nut-job-report-says.html). Of course they ended the story with a “the real story are the leaks” defense by Spicer. > [@Fox News](#): > > President Trump called former FBI Director James Comey “crazy” and “a real nut job” during a May meeting with Russians officials at the White House and said that firing the top cop had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a report by The New York Times. > … > “The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5106 "2017-05-19T20:03:39Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Spicer didn’t deny it, and he’s never had any trouble lying before He’s already at Step 3: blame the leaks. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5107 "2017-05-19T20:08:28Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > … our president unfortunately uses it to communicate … twitter is the site that makes it quick and easy to grunt on the internets ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5108 "2017-05-19T20:24:56Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Read by one official, confirmed by another. According to article, these are from the official WH notes of the meeting. > > “The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.” It’s not true until Putin confirms it with his own recordings, taken from the gift the Russian foreign minister left behind on the shelf. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5109 "2017-05-19T20:33:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Read by one official, confirmed by another. According to article, these are from the official WH notes of the meeting. > > “The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.” I dunno. You can’t trust what the WH says, so why trust what they write? ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5110 "2017-05-19T20:51:06Z")
Wow, the shit is really hitting the fan this afternoon. I can’t believe the fan blades can actually turn anymore as much shit as it’s taken this week. Just since Air Force One left for Saudi Arabia: “Comey is a nut job and this will take the pressure off the investigation.” “This reaches the highest levels in the West Wing” "The FBI believes there is a coverup. (The last one just came out and is based on the Senate’s briefing from Rothstein. He didn’t say it explicitly but multiple Senators say that’s the only logical conclusion based upon what he did say) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5111 "2017-05-19T21:03:05Z")
At this point, Trump should probably just land AF1 on the Red Square and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5112 "2017-05-19T21:11:48Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > At this point, Trump should probably just land AF1 on the Red Square and be done with it. Now wouldn’t that be a helluva scandal: millionaire POTUS defects to Russia less than 6 months into term. I’d pay to see that movie! Oh, wait… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5113 "2017-05-19T21:12:32Z")
That’s the headline I’m waiting for: “Trump seeks asylum in Moscow” There are odds for impeachment, odds for resignation… are there any odds for “defection”? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5114 "2017-05-19T21:17:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > That’s the headline I’m waiting for: > > “Trump seeks asylum in Moscow” When I think “Trump”, I definitely think “asylum.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5115 "2017-05-19T21:22:51Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Wow, the shit is really hitting the fan this afternoon. I can’t believe the fan blades can actually turn anymore as much shit as it’s taken this week. > > Just since Air Force One left for Saudi Arabia: > > “Comey is a nut job and this will take the pressure off the investigation.” > “This reaches the highest levels in the West Wing” > "The FBI believes there is a coverup. (The last one just came out and is based on the Senate’s briefing from Rothstein. He didn’t say it explicitly but multiple Senators say that’s the only logical conclusion based upon what he did say) Y’know, we really should retire the phrase “smoking gun” if finding, like, twenty of them doesn’t change anything. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5116 "2017-05-19T21:23:31Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > At this point, Trump should probably just land AF1 on the Red Square and be done with it. He’s already cancelled his [visit to Masada](http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-said-to-nix-masada-tour-after-ban-on-helicopter-landing/) entirely after being told he couldn’t land his helicopter on it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5117 "2017-05-19T21:35:47Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s already cancelled his [visit to Masada](http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-said-to-nix-masada-tour-after-ban-on-helicopter-landing/) entirely after being told he couldn’t land his helicopter on it. Has anyone told him that urinating on the Wailing Wall is probably a bad idea? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5118 "2017-05-19T21:59:12Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > When I think “Trump”, I definitely think “asylum.” Thanks for the chuckle, good sir. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5119 "2017-05-19T22:05:57Z")
When is Spice-boy going to realize that this administration is self-undermining? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5120 "2017-05-19T22:21:38Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > At this point, Trump should probably just land AF1 on the Red Square and be done with it. AF1 is too big. You need a Cessna to pull that off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=255) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=257)