# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5241 "2017-05-21T08:42:07Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > That’s incorrect. Obama bowed to the King while greeting him. Trump bent down when the King was putting a medal around his neck. Only a deranged liberal loon can equate the two. I have to agree with Okie on this. Trump didn’t bow; he curtsied. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5242 "2017-05-21T10:00:51Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > That was an odd little …bobble wasn’t it? > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Very odd little bobble. > [@TonySinclair](#): > > I have to agree with Okie on this. Trump didn’t bow; he curtsied. Clearly you haven’t read “The Art of the Kneel”. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5243 "2017-05-21T12:11:48Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > What a lot of weeks we are having next week. > > [https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations) Isn’t every week police week ? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5244 "2017-05-21T12:23:51Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > I have to agree with Okie on this. Trump didn’t bow; he curtsied. Was that the same guy W held hands with and kissed on the lips? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5245 "2017-05-21T12:44:15Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > I have to agree with Okie on this. Trump didn’t bow; he curtsied. I finally saw a clip of the bow/curtsey/dance/thing Trump did. I get that Trump is quite a bit taller than the king and needed to bend down a little. But his little genuflect and bob was just weird. I don’t make much out of it other than that Trump doesn’t know how to human. But, given his – and the rest of the right wing hate machine’s – criticism of Obama for bowing, Trump deserves at least three or four news cycles’ worth of this playing on constant loop. > **[Donald Trump appears to 'curtsey' to Saudi king](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-trip-curtsey-bow-king-salman-gold-medal-honour-barack-obama-bowing-a7747016.html)** > > President called Mr Obama an 'amateur' for bowing to foreign leaders  ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5246 "2017-05-21T12:46:26Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I don’t make much out of it other than that Trump doesn’t know how to human. I heart that. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5247 "2017-05-21T13:15:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I am really, really, really hoping this Facebook page is trolling. > [Our President and Savior](https://www.facebook.com/hewillsaveusa/) really can’t tell. SAD. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5248 "2017-05-21T13:54:13Z")
Caught parts of Jake Tapper’s show on CNN. Couple of idiot GOP Congresscritters saying it’s a good thing Trump won’t use the phrase “Radical Islamic Terrorism” in today’s speech so we don’t alienate current and potential allies. Little kids in refugee camps are potential targets for recruitment unless we get them out and improve their lives. Looks like that Obama fellow was pretty smart after all. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5249 "2017-05-21T14:39:28Z")
How are we dealing with “the New Normal”: > [@](#): > > “Trump years are like dog years,” sighs Peter Sagal. Sagal hosts NPR’s news quiz show, “Wait, Wait . . . Don’t Tell Me,” which airs on the weekends but has the misfortune to tape on Thursdays, which, in the current era, is at least six or seven news cycles behind. > > “I have been afraid to get on airplanes because I wonder what’s going to have happened by the time I land. It’s like, with the latest news — ” > … > > Sagal says he feels that the American public has adjusted fairly quickly to this new state of outrage churn. We cannot remember a time Before. We are well equipped. We are prepared. We are lean scandal digesters, able to scarf down the next foible that’s flung in front of us. > > “You’ve seen the movie ‘Castaway’?” Sagal says. “There’s that amazing transition in the middle of the movie. In the first half, Tom Hanks finds himself in the middle of the island — he doesn’t know how to survive; he’s totally unprepared. And then there’s a cut, and suddenly it’s four years later. He knows how to hunt, he knows how to fish, he knows how to make rope, and he’s talking to Wilson. And that is the American people right now. We know how to fish and we’re talking to a volleyball.” > > The American people are alighting on their own coping mechanisms. The American people are using words like “self care” to justify the need to occasionally turn off CNN and just watch “Tiny House Hunters” marathons on HGTV. … The whole article is good: [“Sick of being shocked by the news? Don’t worry, it will get worse”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/sick-of-being-shocked-by-the-news-dont-worry-it-will-get-worse/2017/05/20/b4d15972-3cc9-11e7-a058-ddbb23c75d82_story.html) Actually, yesterday I left my computer and kindle and watched several episodes of “House Hunters International” to get some relief. Of course, that generates a new kind of outrage (“If you wanted your dishwasher and four-burner range, you should have stayed in the G.D. USA and not moved to Thailand! And yeah, if you want a freakin’ doorman, it’s going to cost you!”) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5250 "2017-05-21T15:06:16Z")
Oddly enough, Trump seems to be giving a grown up persuasive speech to the leaders of the Muslim world. Maybe he’s just been preaching to the wrong choir all this time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5251 "2017-05-21T16:45:45Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Oddly enough, Trump seems to be giving a grown up persuasive speech to the leaders of the Muslim world. Maybe he’s just been preaching to the wrong choir all this time. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, he managed to step over the incredibly low bar. But there’s still time to do something stupid; he’s got 6 stops left on the tour. (To quote Trevor Noah: Trump reads a speech off the teleprompter like he’s reading an eye chart.) ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5252 "2017-05-21T16:48:50Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > What a bunch of liberal deranged morons. Is Trump hatred giving you ulcers? **Okrahoma** , I feel sorry for you, so I think I have to break this to you, as you really don’t seem to get it. Lefties don’t care about things like Trump bowing or Melania not wearing a head scarf. But because the righties scolded the Obamas about similar stuff, the lefties show fake outrage to lure your kind to defend Trump. And you poor sap take hook, line & sinker. They make you come up with tons of stupid excuses and finally when you say you’re just trolling, you have in fact admitted that 1. you don’t actually have any defence for what Trump did and/or 2. the Obamas did nothing wrong. That is, you lost and told you’re a hypocrite. You’re not trolling lefties, the lefties are trolling you, and you are too stupid to realise that. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5253 "2017-05-21T18:59:15Z")
A while back, I saw a clip of a boxing match. It was a clear mismatch, and you could see that the better fighter was waiting for the other guy’s corner to throw in the towel, or maybe hoping the ref would stop the fight already. The better boxer kind of stalled for time while his opponent seemed dazed and listless. Finally, with a mix of exhaustion and disgust, the better boxer delivered a final few blows, and the towel mercifully came flying into the ring. The winner screamed abuse at the loser’s corner and embraced his still-dazed opponent, as if to say, “I hated beating you so badly. You didn’t deserve this. I’m sorry.” > [@](#): > > On Wednesday, Putin reacted to reports that Trump had revealed highly classified material to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. > > “Initially when we watched the first developments in this internal political struggle, we were amused,” Putin said. “But now the spectacle is becoming quite simply sad, and it is causing us concern.” > **[With Trump In Office, Did The Kremlin Get More Than It Bargained For?](https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/05/21/529364499/with-trump-in-office-did-the-kremlin-get-more-than-it-bargained-for?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social)** > > The Kremlin never hid its preference for Donald Trump and celebrated his election victory. But there seem to be mixed feelings in Moscow at what has happened since Trump took office. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5254 "2017-05-21T19:06:05Z")
Yeah, pretty much nothing Russia does in the near future will hurt them. It’s especially hilarious (or would be if it were fiction) how they were “willing” to reveal the entirety of the transcript of the White House meeting, ostensibly to “prove” the small import of whatever was revealed. However, even if the transcript completely clears 45 and Russia, all the reveal would do would be to cement in peoples minds “45 had a special meeting with Russia in the White House!”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5255 "2017-05-21T19:10:03Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > **Okrahoma** , I feel sorry for you, so I think I have to break this to you, as you really don’t seem to get it. > > … How many thousands of posts before you realize he will never get it. And if he did, I’m sure he would never admit it. Every time someone posts to **Okrahoma** , that’s a piece of screen real estate we’ll never get back. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5256 "2017-05-21T19:12:51Z")
Hang on, the guy who got elected on the back of expelling 11 million non-nationals is telling a bunch of Medieval, Wahhabist nut jobs who behead around two people a month under Sharia to join him in fighting extremism? And ‘extremism’ is personified by Hassan Rouhani’s democracy? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5257 "2017-05-21T20:19:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How many thousands of posts before you realize he will never get it. And if he did, I’m sure he would never admit it. Okrahoma is Trump! ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5258 "2017-05-21T20:37:22Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Hang on, the guy who got elected on the back of expelling 11 million non-nationals is telling a bunch of Medieval, Wahhabist nut jobs who behead around two people a month under Sharia to join him in fighting extremism? > > And ‘extremism’ is personified by Hassan Rouhani’s democracy? Ironic, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5259 "2017-05-21T20:38:45Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Hang on, the guy who got elected on the back of expelling 11 million non-nationals is telling a bunch of Medieval, Wahhabist nut jobs who behead around two people a month under Sharia to join him in fighting extremism? And he pussied out of saying “Radical Islamic Terrorism,” as was in this scripted speech. Like a common Obama! With this and the curtsey, I’m picturing him in a Lord Fauntleroy suit. I wonder what all his tough-guy supporters stateside are thinking of all the bigly weakness. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5260 "2017-05-21T20:42:39Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I wonder what all his tough-guy supporters stateside are thinking of all the bigly weakness. “Still better than that ‘lying felon bitch Hillary’.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=264)