# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 264
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5261 "2017-05-21T20:45:53Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I wonder what all his tough-guy supporters stateside are thinking of all the bigly weakness. They have mental function? You give them more credit than I have given them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5262 "2017-05-21T21:23:38Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > With this and the curtsey, I’m picturing him in a Lord Fauntleroy suit. I wonder what all his tough-guy supporters stateside are thinking of all the bigly weakness. Never happened. Fake news. La la la la la can’t hear you! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5263 "2017-05-21T21:30:06Z")
On the very weekend that Trump made his weapons deal with Saudi Arabia, the Saudis donated millions of dollars to Ivanka’s pet charity. > **[Ivanka Trump’s women entrepreneurs fund takes $100 million from Saudi Arabia...](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-fund-takes-100m-saudi-arabia-uae-article-1.3183690)** > > President Trump’s first foreign trip brought a big benefit to his daughter's pet project. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5264 "2017-05-21T21:38:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > On the very weekend that Trump made his weapons deal with Saudi Arabia, the Saudis donated millions of dollars to Ivanka’s pet charity. > [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-fund-takes-100m-saudi-arabia-uae-article-1.3183690](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-fund-takes-100m-saudi-arabia-uae-article-1.3183690) Wait. I thought it was bad to accept money for your foundation from questionable foreign donors. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5265 "2017-05-21T21:45:32Z")
> [@rick kitchen](#): > > on the very weekend that trump made his weapons deal with saudi arabia, the saudis donated millions of dollars to ivanka’s pet charity. > [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-fund-takes-100m-saudi-arabia-uae-article-1.3183690](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-fund-takes-100m-saudi-arabia-uae-article-1.3183690) merest coincidence ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5266 "2017-05-21T21:53:04Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Wait. I thought it was bad to accept money for your foundation from questionable foreign donors. Only if you’re a Democrat. Duhhhh! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5267 "2017-05-21T21:54:32Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Wait. I thought it was bad to accept money for your foundation from questionable foreign donors. No, no, it’s just Russians. Because Russia is the enemy, you see, while Saudi Arabia are allies. And Russia is the enemy which is why it’s OK to give them top secret intel, because oh my god I’ve gone pretzel. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5268 "2017-05-21T21:55:37Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > With this and the curtsey, I’m picturing him in a Lord Fauntleroy suit. But not a tan one. Never a tan one. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5269 "2017-05-21T22:01:58Z")
The United States Secretary of State held a press conference in Saudi Arabia without inviting American reporters, or even telling them it was being held. > **[Tillerson holds press conference without US reporters](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334470-tillerson-holds-press-conference-without-us-reporters-reports/)** > > Secretary of State Rex Tillerson held a press conference Sunday without U.S. reporters, according to multiple reports.Tillerson reportedly held the press conference in Riyadh, but U.S. reporters we… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5270 "2017-05-21T22:07:35Z")
Okay, what classified intel was handed out this time? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5271 "2017-05-21T22:08:55Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Okay, what classified intel was handed out this time? Oh don’t worry. Probably wasn’t our intel. Probably Israeli, like last time. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5272 "2017-05-21T22:12:25Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The United States Secretary of State held a press conference in Saudi Arabia without inviting American reporters, or even telling them it was being held. > [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334470-tillerson-holds-press-conference-without-us-reporters-reports](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334470-tillerson-holds-press-conference-without-us-reporters-reports) That’s really grown up. :rolleyes: I wonder if it’s going to be that way for the rest of the stops on this trip? If so, the American media representatives need to make sure their European counterparts leak times and places for future press conferences, so the Yanks can at least mill obnoxiously around outside the door. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5273 "2017-05-21T22:46:22Z")
Has the Trump team ever explained why they keep excluding US press from their events that are open to the press of other nations ? 'Cause the only thing I can come up with is “because fuck 'em, they’re mean !”, which can \*only \*be answered by the press fucking right back. And you don’t pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5274 "2017-05-21T22:56:55Z")
I guess they’re hiding from questions which they’d be uncomfortable answering. Trump supporters on this board behave in much the same way. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5275 "2017-05-21T23:22:47Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Has the Trump team ever explained why they keep excluding US press from their events that are open to the press of other nations ? 'Cause the only thing I can come up with is “because fuck 'em, they’re mean !”, which can \*only \*be answered by the press fucking right back. And you don’t pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel. “They’re mean and all they do is lie. They can’t be trusted.” I’m guessing that sums it up. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5276 "2017-05-22T00:02:28Z")
Re Trump’s claim that [“No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly”:](http://wapo.st/2q1pLBP) > [@](#): > > …Thus did our assured head of state, equal parts narcissistic and uninformed, rank his treatment worse than that of Benito Mussolini (executed corpse beaten and hung upside down in public square), Oliver Cromwell (body disinterred, drawn and quartered, hanged and head hung on spike), Leon Trotsky (exiled and killed with icepick to the skull), William Wallace (dragged naked by horses, eviscerated, emasculated, hanged and quartered) and the headless Louis XVI, Mary Queen of Scots and Charles I… In fairness to The Donald: he has never heard of any of those people. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5277 "2017-05-22T00:21:50Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Re Trump’s claim that [“No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly”:](http://wapo.st/2q1pLBP) > In fairness to The Donald: he has never heard of any of those people. Well, people write mean things about him! That is TOTALLY worse! ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5278 "2017-05-22T00:50:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “They’re mean and all they do is lie. They can’t be trusted.” I’m guessing that sums it up. Fox News has a link on its front page to a [story](https://heatst.com/culture-wars/harvard-study-reveals-huge-extent-of-anti-trump-media-bias/) claiming “Harvard Study Reveals Huge Extent of Anti-Trump Media Bias.” Of course, what the study actually says is that most of the stories covering Trump’s first 100 days, including those by Fox News, were negative. That is akin to media bias against flat-earthers. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5279 "2017-05-22T01:00:21Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Re Trump’s claim that [“No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly”:](http://wapo.st/2q1pLBP) > > In fairness to The Donald: he has never heard of any of those people. And they were dead before they were sliced and diced. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5280 "2017-05-22T02:34:54Z")
Meanwhile, here’s a completely normal and not creepy at all picture of [Trump and a bunch of Arab plutocrats standing in a shadowy room and caressing a glowing orb.](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/all-hail-the-new-world-orb-er-internet-loses-its-collective-sht-over-pic-of-trump-with-saudi-orb/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=263) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=265)