# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5281 "2017-05-22T02:43:09Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Meanwhile, here’s a completely normal and not creepy at all picture of [Trump and a bunch of Arab plutocrats standing in a shadowy room and caressing a glowing orb.](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/all-hail-the-new-world-orb-er-internet-loses-its-collective-sht-over-pic-of-trump-with-saudi-orb/)

Fake news! Sad! Here’s the real photo:

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/a5/57/49a55776023adc2ac3cf83e4e93b0e67.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/a5/57/49a55776023adc2ac3cf83e4e93b0e67.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5282 "2017-05-22T03:19:43Z")

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Okrahoma decided not to come back to call us deranged liberals again and claim he likes to make us angry, eh?

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5283 "2017-05-22T03:29:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Meanwhile, here’s a completely normal and not creepy at all picture of [Trump and a bunch of Arab plutocrats standing in a shadowy room and caressing a glowing orb.](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/all-hail-the-new-world-orb-er-internet-loses-its-collective-sht-over-pic-of-trump-with-saudi-orb/)

In all seriousness, WTF?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5284 "2017-05-22T03:34:59Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> In all seriousness, WTF?

Nothing to see here. They have to do that every couple of days to maintain their non-reptilian appearance.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5285 "2017-05-22T03:41:07Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Nothing to see here. They have to do that every couple of days to maintain their non-reptilian appearance.

I’d say it’s actually a palantir and they’re getting their orders from Sauron but I thought Trump WAS Sauron so that can’t be right.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5286 "2017-05-22T03:46:34Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I’d say it’s actually a palantir and they’re getting their orders from Sauron but I thought Trump WAS Sauron so that can’t be right.

Trump isn’t smart enough to be Sauron. I don’t think he’s smart enough to be Saruman. He’s probably an orc.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5287 "2017-05-22T03:49:21Z")

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"The world is changing. Who now has the strength to stand against the armies of Isengard and Mordor? To stand against the might of Sauron and Saruman and the union of the two _ **Trump** _ towers?

Together, my Lord Sauron, we shall rule this Middle-Earth.

The old world will burn in the fires of industry.

The forests will fall.

A new order will rise.

We will drive the machinery of war with the sword and the spear and the iron fist of the Orc.

We have only to remove those who oppose us." - Saruman.

Ok, there was one addition there… 🙂

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5288 "2017-05-22T03:50:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump isn’t smart enough to be Sauron. I don’t think he’s smart enough to be Saruman. He’s probably an orc.

Nah, still too smart. He’s a cave troll.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5289 "2017-05-22T03:58:10Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> In all seriousness, WTF?

[…the Church of Satan has issued a statement to say this is not a satanic ritual.](https://twitter.com/ChurchofSatan/status/866453928535236608)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5290 "2017-05-22T03:59:21Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> […the Church of Satan has issued a statement to say this is not a satanic ritual.](https://twitter.com/ChurchofSatan/status/866453928535236608)

Thank God for that.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5291 "2017-05-22T04:04:16Z")

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Does anyone know what the point of caressing the orb really is?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5292 "2017-05-22T04:04:29Z")

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Make Mordor Great Again!

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5293 "2017-05-22T04:04:54Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> In all seriousness, WTF?

If you “in all seriousness” want to know: [http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/](http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/)

"Trump and the King each placed their hands on a miniature globe that officially activated the center and launched a splashy welcome video.

The center counters and prevents the spread of extremist ideology by promoting moderation, compassion and supporting the dissemination of positive dialogue."

Of course, if you want to continue to giggle stupidly, like the rest of the liberal morons on this thread, do go on.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5294 "2017-05-22T04:07:29Z")

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When Trump negotiated the “lean & curtsey” instead of the whole “hold hands, bow and kiss” routine, they countered with the “Glowing Orb of Instant Infidel Islamification”, a move which they had not ever in their wildest dreams imagined they could pull off, until carefully studying recent Russian diplomatic manipulation techniques.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5295 "2017-05-22T04:15:21Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump isn’t smart enough to be Sauron. I don’t think he’s smart enough to be Saruman. He’s probably an orc.

I think he has been seen in daylight, so he would have to be uruk-hai. To me, King Theoden seems like a better fit, though.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5296 "2017-05-22T04:15:29Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> If you “in all seriousness” want to know: [http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/](http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/)
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> "Trump and the King each placed their hands on a miniature globe that officially activated the center and launched a splashy welcome video.
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> The center counters and prevents the spread of extremist ideology by promoting moderation, compassion and supporting the dissemination of positive dialogue."
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> Of course, if you want to continue to giggle stupidly, like the rest of the liberal morons on this thread, do go on.

Sure, because now with context added I can say that the ones George Orwell denounced would be proud.

> **[Saudi Arabia 'directly funding Islamic extremism in Germany'](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-gulf-states-fund-islamic-extremism-germany-salafism-wahhabism-qatar-kuwait-islamists-a7473551.html)**
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> Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Germany denies his government funds extremist groups

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/19/trump-once-denounced-saudi-arabia-as-extremist-now-hes-heading-there-to-promote-moderate-islam/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/19/trump-once-denounced-saudi-arabia-as-extremist-now-hes-heading-there-to-promote-moderate-islam/)

> **[Trump’s Saudi Arms Deal Helps Leading Exporter Of Islamic Extremism](https://dailycaller.com/2017/05/20/trumps-saudi-arms-deal-helps-leading-exporter-of-islamic-extremism/)**
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> Not quite America First in this deal

> [@](#):
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> The Saudis have in the past financially supported the al-Qaeda-backed al-Nusra Front in the Syrian conflict and are the chief backers of slightly more moderate Salafists, who themselves often fight alongside al-Nusra.
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> Additionally, according to Hillary Clinton and others, Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS.
> 
> Saudi Arabia has been using a large portion of its massive military budget to intervene into Yemen’s civil war, which has largely proven fruitless against a much less sophisticated foe. The intervention has appeared to only result in a devastating famine in the country and a high number of civilian deaths from an indiscriminate bombing campaign.
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> It doesn’t take a genius to see as to what ends Saudi Arabia will put its fancy new weapons to use.
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> Is it really in America’s interest to fund al-Qaeda-friendly rebels and bomb Yemeni civilians?
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> This is a question we need to start asking as a country before we start selling them more high-grade military equipment. It’s hard to say you’re putting America first when you’re allying yourself with a country that it’s totally okay with fueling the flames of Islamic extremism in the West.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5297 "2017-05-22T04:15:47Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> If you “in all seriousness” want to know: [http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/](http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/)
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> "Trump and the King each placed their hands on a miniature globe that officially activated the center and launched a splashy welcome video.

Well, thanks for the information (seriously), but that’s still kind of weird. It’s like one of those dice popper things, or one of those press-to-turn-on-stick-em-up lights.

I’m also wondering if everything turns off if someone touches it again.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5298 "2017-05-22T04:16:16Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> If you “in all seriousness” want to know: [http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/](http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/)
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> "Trump and the King each placed their hands on a miniature globe that officially activated the center and launched a splashy welcome video.
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> The center counters and prevents the spread of extremist ideology by promoting moderation, compassion and supporting the dissemination of positive dialogue."
> 
> Of course, if you want to continue to giggle stupidly, like the rest of the liberal morons on this thread, do go on.

I think I’ll do just that. Thanks! Because this may be the funniest/stupidest image to come out of this clusterfuck, and I’m going to enjoy it. .

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5299 "2017-05-22T04:23:48Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> If you “in all seriousness” want to know: [http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/](http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/center-combat-extremist-ideology-inaugurated/)
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> "Trump and the King each placed their hands on a miniature globe that officially activated the center and launched a splashy welcome video.
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> The center counters and prevents the spread of extremist ideology by promoting moderation, compassion and supporting the dissemination of positive dialogue."
> 
> Of course, if you want to continue to giggle stupidly, like the rest of the liberal morons on this thread, do go on.

1. Thank you. I did want to know, that’s why I asked. Twice.

2. Fuck off, you sanctimonious prick. You’re the nitwit that insists on wading into a Trump-hating thread in the Pit to spread his Gospel.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5300 "2017-05-22T04:28:31Z")

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Oooh, Okra, can you explain now why it’s hideously corrupt for Clinton to take Saudi money for her foundation but not for Ivanka to do the same?

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