# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5481 "2017-05-24T05:01:00Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> What do Chinese people call Chinese food?

Food?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5482 "2017-05-24T05:02:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump has lawyered up.  
> [http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-retains-outside-lawyer-to-help-with-Russia-11168671.php](http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-retains-outside-lawyer-to-help-with-Russia-11168671.php)

I love this bit in the linked article…

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> A potential complication for Kasowitz is that former senator Joseph Lieberman, Trump’s leading candidate to head the FBI, is currently a senior counsel at his firm.  
> Were Lieberman officially chosen to run the FBI, and Kasowitz chosen to help with Trump’s legal advice, both men - the one leading the organization investigating possible Russian collusion and the one offering Trump legal counsel on that very issue - would hail from the same firm, a likely conflict of interest.

The guy investigating and the guy defending are from the same firm. What could go wrong?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5483 "2017-05-24T06:38:31Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The Middle East is where all those Ayrabs live, right? That excludes God’s Own Land. 😉
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> (Do people in the ME call it “the ME”?)

The term seems to originate from Britain, where the region was seen as the hedge to Russian incursion into the British-controlled sub-continent (later known as Gandhiland). The Brits were rather major players in the drawing of lines in the sand (IIUC, Peter O’Toole was instrumental in unifying SA, between pints). So, in Arabic, Persian and Turkish, they use translated forms of ME for the region, due to British influence.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5484 "2017-05-24T08:27:21Z")

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Our failing, low-energy president decided to take advantage of his visit to the Holocaust museum in Israel by treating the guestbook like his Twitter feed;

[QUOTE=Loser Donald]  
It is a great honor to be here with all of my friends — so amazing + will never forget!  
[/QUOTE]

_That’s_ what this idiot took away from the place.

It might not be his fault, though - [one analysis indicates that his language skills are rapidly deteriorating](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/experts-say-trumps-speech-deterioration-is-a-clear-sign-of-early-dementia/).

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5485 "2017-05-24T08:48:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> (Do people in the ME call it “the ME”?)

Yes. Why would they not? The origin of the name may be Eurocentric but that doesn’t mean the name itself is worthless.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5486 "2017-05-24T10:42:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Why did he feel he had to announce where he just came from? Does he think no one knows where he was?

This, like so many of his asinine statements, seems to indicate a grade school level of wonder. As if he’s breathlessly describing his latest field trip to his best friend’s parents.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5487 "2017-05-24T11:05:26Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> What do Chinese people call Chinese food?

“Edible thing”

(no really - shiwù (food) is a combination of shi (eating, edible) and wù (thing, matter, substance))

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5488 "2017-05-24T11:16:52Z")

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He’s in the Vatican now - and boy does Francis [look overjoyed to be in the company of](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/donald-trump-vatican-meeting-pope-francis)the Orange Clan. I guess Trump took cues on Putin re:trolling too, because he gave Francis a boxset of Martin Luther King’s writings. That’s right, he gave the Pope some preaching by a Protestant minister.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5489 "2017-05-24T11:19:30Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> I love this bit in the linked article…
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> The guy investigating and the guy defending are from the same firm. What could go wrong?

Better call Saul!

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5490 "2017-05-24T11:34:37Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> This, like so many of his asinine statements, seems to indicate a grade school level of wonder. As if he’s breathlessly describing his latest field trip to his best friend’s parents.

Partly this, but I think his feeble mind associates the Middle East as “bad!” and Israel as “good!” So, since he’s about as sharp as a spork to begin with, his usual bigotry and over-generalizing kicked in and was really trying to relate that he returned from a “very yucky bad” place to a “very fun good place.” And when can they all have ice cream?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5491 "2017-05-24T11:36:24Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> He’s in the Vatican now - and boy does Francis [look overjoyed to be in the company of](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/donald-trump-vatican-meeting-pope-francis)the Orange Clan. I guess Trump took cues on Putin re:trolling too, because he gave Francis a boxset of Martin Luther King’s writings. That’s right, he gave the Pope some preaching by a Protestant minister.

The picture of Trump shaking hands with the pope make it appear that Trump was attempting his ridiculous “yank his arm off to show him who’s boss” hand-shake move.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5492 "2017-05-24T12:14:25Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> He’s in the Vatican now - and boy does Francis [look overjoyed to be in the company of](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/donald-trump-vatican-meeting-pope-francis)the Orange Clan. I guess Trump took cues on Putin re:trolling too, because he gave Francis a boxset of Martin Luther King’s writings. That’s right, he gave the Pope some preaching by a Protestant minister.

Waitaminute… How come Melania and Ivanka have their heads covered? Why are they showing such obeisance in a theocracy like that? I hear women are completely shut out of power there!

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5493 "2017-05-24T12:34:20Z")

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I was shocked to learn that Jared Kushner, who has been given [all kinds of government authority](https://thinkprogress.org/7-jobs-jared-kushner-is-now-doing-for-the-united-states-of-america-6f0a799462ed), is an asshole:

> **[The Beleaguered Tenants of ‘Kushnerville’](https://www.propublica.org/article/the-beleaguered-tenants-of-kushnerville)**
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> Tenants in more than a dozen Baltimore-area rental complexes complain about a property owner who they say leaves their homes in disrepair, humiliates late-paying renters and often sues them when they try to move out. Few of them know that their...

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5494 "2017-05-24T12:58:47Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Our failing, low-energy president decided to take advantage of his visit to the Holocaust museum in Israel by treating the guestbook like his Twitter feed;
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> _That’s_ what this idiot took away from the place.
> 
> It might not be his fault, though - [one analysis indicates that his language skills are rapidly deteriorating](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/experts-say-trumps-speech-deterioration-is-a-clear-sign-of-early-dementia/).

yes, that fact should have it’s own thread. he isn’t just an asshole, **he is demented.** all the people allowing this puppet to have power should be ashamed to let this go on.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5495 "2017-05-24T13:50:19Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Our failing, low-energy president decided to take advantage of his visit to the Holocaust museum in Israel by treating the guestbook like his Twitter feed;
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> _That’s_ what this idiot took away from the place.
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> It might not be his fault, though - [one analysis indicates that his language skills are rapidly deteriorating](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/experts-say-trumps-speech-deterioration-is-a-clear-sign-of-early-dementia/).

Perhaps he thought it was a yearbook? Keep in touch over the summer! BFFS 4 EVER!

Eta: W wrote God bless Israel. 45 kept out pretty much all about himself. He is honored. He will never forget it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5496 "2017-05-24T13:50:21Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> …  
> The guy investigating and the guy defending are from the same firm. What could go wrong?

Geez, are there only, like TWO law firms on the east coast, and everybody belongs to one or the other? :rolleyes:

> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I was shocked to learn that Jared Kushner, who has been given [all kinds of government authority](https://thinkprogress.org/7-jobs-jared-kushner-is-now-doing-for-the-united-states-of-america-6f0a799462ed), is an asshole:
> 
> [The Beleaguered Tenants of ‘Kushnerville’ — ProPublica](https://www.propublica.org/article/the-beleaguered-tenants-of-kushnerville)

This is really interesting. Good topic for _60 Minutes_ or _Frontline_.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5497 "2017-05-24T14:17:39Z")

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What’s with Trump’s shit eating grin in pictures with the Pope? He is probably thinking, “Hey! Check this out! I’m hangin’ with the Pope! This is yuuuge.”

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5498 "2017-05-24T14:25:17Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> What’s with Trump’s shit eating grin in pictures with the Pope? He is probably thinking, “Hey! Check this out! I’m hangin’ with the Pope! This is yuuuge.”
> 
> Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Fixed.  
“Hey check this out! The Pope is hangin’ with me!”

Which would explain the Pope’s expression.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5499 "2017-05-24T14:41:55Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> He’s in the Vatican now - and boy does Francis [look overjoyed to be in the company of](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/donald-trump-vatican-meeting-pope-francis)the Orange Clan. I guess Trump took cues on Putin re:trolling too, because he gave Francis a boxset of Martin Luther King’s writings. That’s right, he gave the Pope some preaching by a Protestant minister.

Meanwhile, apparently Melania and Ivanka were thinking: I’m meeting a priest; this must be a funeral. And dressed accordingly.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5500 "2017-05-24T14:52:56Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> He’s in the Vatican now - and boy does Francis [look overjoyed to be in the company of](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/donald-trump-vatican-meeting-pope-francis)the Orange Clan. I guess Trump took cues on Putin re:trolling too, because he gave Francis a boxset of Martin Luther King’s writings. That’s right, he gave the Pope some preaching by a Protestant minister.

At least it wasn’t the writings of Martin Luther.

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