# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 276
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5501 "2017-05-24T14:55:43Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I will say, the saddest thing about all this is that Donald Trump is now a person of some historical significance. Which sucks. This! It offends me to no end that his portrait will hang with the other Presidents (regardless of how I feel about them) and that he now has a place in the history books (regardless of how he will be remembered). ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5502 "2017-05-24T15:09:42Z")
I was really sad when I realized he was going to end up in Disney’s Hall of Presidents. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5503 "2017-05-24T15:19:41Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > I was really sad when I realized he was going to end up in Disney’s Hall of Presidents. I say this in all seriousness: Disney will figure a way out of this. They have championed gay and trans rights, and are no fans of _He Who Must Not Be Animatronic’ed._ ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5504 "2017-05-24T15:23:03Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > I was really sad when I realized he was going to end up in Disney’s Hall of Presidents. His animatronic self is going to be in the dunking booth. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5505 "2017-05-24T15:35:44Z")
It seems as though every president has at least _some_ admirers. Even trickydick is not universally reviled. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5506 "2017-05-24T15:39:29Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > No, terrorists would only be bothered if we learned to ignore them. Support the victims and their families, clean up, rebuild, and stop talking about them after the second day. That is anti-free market, because there is profit to be made in almost every segment of terror mania. First and foremost, the media, which in turn shares the wealth incalculably thru keeping the mania alive. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5507 "2017-05-24T15:46:49Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > His animatronic self is going to be in the dunking booth. Naw. His animatronic will come out of a panel, terrorizing and chasing the other animatronic presidents, shouting phrases like “Bigly!” and “Yuge!” and “Smash Muslims!” until he’s shot through the head by Teddy. It’ll be pretty great. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5508 "2017-05-24T15:47:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > At least it wasn’t the writings of Martin Luther. That’s how I read it the first time. I actually cringed until I reread it. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5509 "2017-05-24T15:48:03Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I say this in all seriousness: Disney will figure a way out of this. > > They have championed gay and trans rights, and are no fans of _He Who Must Not Be Animatronic’ed._ Word is that he’s being added as we speak. Speculation is, and I don’t know if it’s confirmed or not, that they’re removing the part where the current president speaks, cutting the ride from about 22 minutes down to around 15. I also have read that engineers were well into the construction of a Hillary Clinton animatronic when the election happened, because of course that’s the way it was expected to go. The speaking part apparently only dates back to 1993, so it’s a relatively new thing that probably won’t be missed. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5510 "2017-05-24T15:48:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Meanwhile, apparently Melania and Ivanka were thinking: I’m meeting a priest; this must be a funeral. And dressed accordingly. Seen somewhere on the internet: She’s dressing for the job she wants. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5511 "2017-05-24T15:59:05Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > Word is that he’s being added as we speak. Speculation is, and I don’t know if it’s confirmed or not, that they’re removing the part where the current president speaks, cutting the ride from about 22 minutes down to around 15. I also have read that engineers were well into the construction of a Hillary Clinton animatronic when the election happened, because of course that’s the way it was expected to go. > > The speaking part apparently only dates back to 1993, so it’s a relatively new thing that probably won’t be missed. I just pray that they don’t go Westworld on us. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5512 "2017-05-24T15:59:26Z")
While Trump was on the phone with Rodrigo Duterte in April (the call in which he praised Duterte’s handling of the drug problem in the Philippines), Trump revealed that he had sent two nuclear subs to the waters off the Korean peninsula. I’m certainly no military man, but I had always been under the impression that one of the key advantages of the submarine as a weapon is that its location _can be kept a secret!_ [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y) > [@](#): > > Trump told Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte Washington had “a lot of firepower over there”, according to the New York Times, which quoted a transcript of an April 29 call between the two. > > “We have two submarines — the best in the world. We have two nuclear submarines, not that we want to use them at all,” the newspaper quoted Trump as telling Duterte, based on the transcript. As I understand it, the presence of the sub _USS Michigan_ was publicly known, as it had docked in South Korea, but the presence of the second sub was not. To be fair, this could be another of those instances where Trump skillfully revealed a secret as part of a larger negotiation strategy. With Rodrigo Duterte. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5513 "2017-05-24T16:16:30Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Waitaminute… How come Melania and Ivanka have their heads covered? Why are they showing such obeisance in a theocracy like that? I hear women are completely shut out of power there! The Catholic Church has not required head coverings in church in 50 years. The news article I read said that they wore head coverings “out of papal respect”. I think they just made that up. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5514 "2017-05-24T16:50:43Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > His animatronic self is going to be in the dunking booth. Put it on display with the real presidential robots for a week, then move it to a mini-golf course. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5515 "2017-05-24T16:54:59Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > As I understand it, the presence of the sub _USS Michigan_ was publicly known, as it had docked in South Korea, but the presence of the second sub was not. To be fair, this could be another of those instances where Trump skillfully revealed a secret as part of a larger negotiation strategy. With Rodrigo Duterte. Or his 4D Chess strategy, in which this was the payoff to his earlier claim that the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson was off Korean when it was actually off Australia. Now NK never really knows what ship is where, even when he’s telling the truth. But Occam would say he’s just an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5516 "2017-05-24T16:56:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Or his 4D Chess strategy, in which this was the payoff to his earlier claim that the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson was off Korean when it was actually off Australia. Now NK never really knows what ship is where, even when he’s telling the truth. It’s like a big stupid game of Battleship. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5517 "2017-05-24T17:02:17Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Fixed. > “Hey check this out! The Pope is hangin’ with me!” > > Which would explain the Pope’s expression. My daughter sent me this picture, and it confirmed my impression (previously solidified by his Yad Vashem guestbook entry) that the man has no sense of occasion whatsoever. I responded that Francis looks like he needs an industrial-strength laxative or a good stiff drink. Or both. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5518 "2017-05-24T17:13:58Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > It’s like a big stupid game of Battleship. Which I’m pretty sure he couldn’t muster the focus and concentration to play effectively. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5519 "2017-05-24T17:15:06Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Oooh, snap! She is already living there, when you think about it. How many adult kids prefer to live with their parents? AND WHY IN THE WORLD IS TIFFANY ALWAYS GETTING LEFT OUT? Ivanaka is his favorite because she looks the most like him. Tiffany looks like her mother. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5520 "2017-05-24T17:34:35Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > It’s like a big stupid game of Battleship. Trump: “You sunk my battleship! You were very unfair to me, very unfair! Sad! But believe me, you won’t hit my aircraft carrier because I’ve got it placed in the best position, on G5 through G9. You’ll never find it there.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=275) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=277)