# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5521 "2017-05-24T17:42:04Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Or his 4D Chess strategy, in which this was the payoff to his earlier claim that the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson was off Korean when it was actually off Australia. Now NK never really knows what ship is where, even when he’s telling the truth.
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> But Occam would say he’s just an idiot.

Trump’s Razor: The dumbest explanation is the most likely.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5522 "2017-05-24T17:46:35Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump’s Razor: The dumbest explanation is the most likely.

I am SO stealing this.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5523 "2017-05-24T17:55:55Z")

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> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> The speaking part apparently only dates back to 1993, so it’s a relatively new thing that probably won’t be missed.

1993 was 24 years ago. That’s longer than the end of WWII to the Summer of Love.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5524 "2017-05-24T18:12:42Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> I am SO stealing this.

It actually originates from either Josh Marshall (of Talking Points Memo) or author John Scalzi, I think.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5525 "2017-05-24T18:15:23Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I responded that Francis looks like he needs an industrial-strength laxative or a good stiff drink. Or both.

Brief [video](https://twitter.com/antsecerovic/status/867309956571201537)of Pope’s unfiltered opinion.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5526 "2017-05-24T18:18:51Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> 1993 was 24 years ago. That’s longer than the end of WWII to the Summer of Love.

Yeah really. People that were born after that are taking their kids to Disney.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5527 "2017-05-24T18:23:27Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Brief [video](https://twitter.com/antsecerovic/status/867309956571201537)of Pope’s unfiltered opinion.

That sideways glance that says “and then there’s you.”

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5528 "2017-05-24T18:34:49Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Our failing, low-energy president decided to take advantage of his visit to the Holocaust museum in Israel by treating the guestbook like his Twitter feed;
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> _That’s_ what this idiot took away from the place.
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> It might not be his fault, though - [one analysis indicates that his language skills are rapidly deteriorating](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/experts-say-trumps-speech-deterioration-is-a-clear-sign-of-early-dementia/).

It’s a bit of a cheap shot, but compare Trump’s message at Yad Vashem to Obama’s: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/23/the-huge-contrast-between-obama-and-trumps-visits-to-israels-holocaust-memorial/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/23/the-huge-contrast-between-obama-and-trumps-visits-to-israels-holocaust-memorial/)

On every metric I can think of besides “creative use of capitalization,” Trump comes up short. Really, really short.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5529 "2017-05-24T18:42:57Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> This! It offends me to no end that his portrait will hang with the other Presidents (regardless of how I feel about them) and that he now has a place in the history books (regardless of how he will be remembered).

I wrote a blog post on this when he was inaugurated, about how every US President always gets his own postage stamp, which means this tool will eventually get one, too.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5530 "2017-05-24T18:44:11Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> I wrote a blog post on this when he was inaugurated, about how every US President always gets his own postage stamp, which means this tool will eventually get one, too.

On the plus side, you have to be dead to get one. It might not work in his case, people would spit on the wrong side.

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5531 "2017-05-24T18:45:11Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Meanwhile, apparently Melania and Ivanka were thinking: I’m meeting a priest; this must be a funeral. And dressed accordingly.

No, no, it’s a coded message: they’re dressing like cinematic Mafia widows to tell us they, too, mourn the death of the Republic.

So stop being so mean, libtards. Women’s rights are in much better hands under M&I’s careful watch than they would’ve been with President Cankles.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5532 "2017-05-24T18:51:26Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> I wrote a blog post on this when he was inaugurated, about how every US President always gets his own postage stamp, which means this tool will eventually get one, too.

We can hope it will be [tase](http://home.avvanta.com/~sydde/Tramp.png)tefully done

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5533 "2017-05-24T19:04:47Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> That sideways glance that says “and then there’s you.”

I’m thinking that he recognizes the Trumpster as a minion of Satan, and wishes to avoid prolonged eye contact.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5534 "2017-05-24T19:06:54Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> That sideways glance that says “and then there’s you.”

I was thinking of “Hello, Nnnewman”.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5535 "2017-05-24T19:28:40Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Brief [video](https://twitter.com/antsecerovic/status/867309956571201537)of Pope’s unfiltered opinion.

POTUS, meet PONTIFF. PONTIFF meet POTUS.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5536 "2017-05-24T19:32:41Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> 1993 was 24 years ago. That’s longer than the end of WWII to the Summer of Love.

Yeah, make me feel old, why don’t ya.

Really, though, that means that the speaking part was only active for three presidential administrations. So, cutting it out won’t be as big and noteworthy as, say, if they’d been doing it since Eisenhower.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5537 "2017-05-24T19:33:51Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> I wrote a [blog post on this](http://filmatelist.blogspot.com/2017/01/d-day.html) when he was inaugurated, about how every US President always gets his own postage stamp, which means this tool will eventually get one, too.

What happens to a hundred million Donald Trump postage stamps that go unsold in Democratic states like California? Do they ship them to States like Iowa? Or do they get destroyed?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5538 "2017-05-24T19:37:10Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Put it on display with the real presidential robots for a week, then move it to a mini-golf course.

Disney should make a deal with a certain Danish toy company and call that mini-golf course Par-a-Lego. With Lego versions of the typical obstacles.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5539 "2017-05-24T19:53:40Z")

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Congressional Democrats are accusing Trump of directing government agencies to ignore requests for information on any subject.  
(I’m using this link because I’ve used up my Washington Post views for the month, but this link has a link to the Post article).  
[http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/05/24/just-in-trump-instructing-federal-agencies-to-ignore-requests-for-info-on-him/](http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/05/24/just-in-trump-instructing-federal-agencies-to-ignore-requests-for-info-on-him/)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5540 "2017-05-24T19:58:08Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> What happens to a hundred million Donald Trump postage stamps that go unsold in Democratic states like California? Do they ship them to States like Iowa? Or do they get destroyed?

My post office told me that each post office orders the number they think they can sell, and then they’re stuck with them.

If that’s true, I’m guessing CA will order on the low side in the blue areas. Say, close to zero.

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