# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5601 "2017-05-25T21:36:27Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> [https://www.axios.com/trumps-street-fighters-2421476130.html](https://www.axios.com/trumps-street-fighters-2421476130.html)
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> Sorry Mr. Gabriel, JFK is really dead. ☹

I agreed with him up until the part where he indicated that congress represented the best interests of the people.

Then I laughed.

Then I cried.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5602 "2017-05-25T21:48:39Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> We wondered if he was going to go to war with russia, or with china, or with north korea, but it turns out, it was the US all along that he had his little heart set on waging a war against.

Make America Great Again!

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5603 "2017-05-25T21:54:11Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Make America Great Again!

Well, it _does_ seem to be the case that America tends to pull together in time of war - it’ll be _twice_ as effective when we’re in the war on both sides!

(Civil what? Hush you.)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5604 "2017-05-25T22:02:33Z")

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Honestly, the US is in a state of quasi Cold Civil War at this point. But hey, two great tastes that taste great together !

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5605 "2017-05-25T22:38:26Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> [Muslim Ban Part Zwei was struck down by the 4th Circuit of Appeals](http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/federal-appeals-court-upholds-block-on-trumps-travel-ban-nbcnews.html).
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> Bolding mine. Where does it go from here?

Just go ahead and ban all foreign-born people from entering the US. /s

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5606 "2017-05-25T22:46:27Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> Just go ahead and ban all foreign-born people from entering the US. /s

Please, let’s not go halfway. Everyone who can be shown to have foreign-born _ancestors_ should also be banned from entering the US.

We should do this quickly, while Trump is abroad.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5607 "2017-05-25T23:17:38Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Please, let’s not go halfway. Everyone who can be shown to have foreign-born _ancestors_ should also be banned from entering the US.
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> We should do this quickly, while Trump is abroad.

Let’s narrow this down. Specificity is our friend.

Let’s agree to remove anyone who fits these criteria:

-ancestors originated from the German village of Kallstadt, Palatinate on the paternal side  
-ancestors from the Outer Hebrides isles of Scotland on the maternal side.  
-Paternal ancestor named Friedrich Trump, first emigrated to the United States in 1885

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5608 "2017-05-26T01:01:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Ignorance fought. I don’t think I’ve ever seen women-in-black with the pope; but then, maybe I’ve never actually seen a picture of a woman with a pope.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I’ve never seen a women in an audience with whatever Pope who **wasn’t** in black, with long sleeves, and some kind of black veil/mantilla. But then, I’m old, and that \*was \*the custom in the past.

> [@](#):
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> …  
> Like first ladies before her, Melania Trump wore a black dress and veil to meet the pope.  
> …

“Melania Trump is Catholic, she confirms after Vatican visit”  
[http://wapo.st/2qTBIfZ](http://wapo.st/2qTBIfZ)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5609 "2017-05-26T01:05:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I’ve never seen a women in an audience with whatever Pope who **wasn’t** in black, with long sleeves, and some kind of black veil/mantilla. But then, I’m old, and that \*was \*the custom in the past.

The important thing was that you tied an onion on your belt.

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**Author:** ![Melcalc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melcalc/32/468_2.png) [@Melcalc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melcalc)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5610 "2017-05-26T01:21:42Z")

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Pope provides an interesting one-liner…  
[http://www.newsweek.com/melania-trump-donald-pope-francis-fat-shaming-president-weight-joke-potizza-614711](http://www.newsweek.com/melania-trump-donald-pope-francis-fat-shaming-president-weight-joke-potizza-614711)

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> The pope warmly greeted the first lady in front of reporters and photographers, embracing her hand as he spoke in Italian—one of at least five languages she reportedly speaks fluently. “What do you give him to eat?” he asked, looking into her eyes with a slight smile. “Potizza?”…  
> “Potizza?” Melania Trump exclaimed. “Yes!” The first lady laughed in delight. Just like that, the two had made their own inside joke, much at the expense of the president: Potizza is a high-calorie pastry served in Melania Trump’s home country of Slovenia during holidays as a special treat.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5611 "2017-05-26T01:33:12Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> (ah, my mistake, that’d be stacked 3 meters high. [Two levels of pallets. The graphic is just 1 trillion.)](http://i.imgur.com/vI53JWn.jpg)

Nevermind your fancy French measurements. Give it to us in good American leagues and hectares.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5612 "2017-05-26T01:39:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The important thing was that you tied an onion on your belt.

If I had to travel with that guy, I would be sure to have a suitcase full of garlic necklaces.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5613 "2017-05-26T02:17:19Z")

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Navy SEALS made a raid on a village in Yemen to take down al-Qaeda militants. Two militants were killed, five civilians who live in the village were killed. The rest of the al-Qaeda operative in the village got away.  
US Central Command says all of the dead are from al-Qaeda.

> **[US raid killed five Yemen civilians, says rights group disputing official story](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/24/us-military-yemen-raid-al-qaida-civilian-deaths)**
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> London-based human rights group cites local sources, who say the raid went wrong from the start when US Navy Seals opened fire on a 70-year-old man

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5614 "2017-05-26T02:53:38Z")

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Following the news that Jared Kushner is the target of an FBI investigation, he has completely wiped every single one of his tweets off Twitter.  
[https://twitter.com/jaredkushner](https://twitter.com/jaredkushner)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5615 "2017-05-26T02:59:43Z")

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He does know Twitter still has all of the logs and can be subpoena’d for them, right ? Hell, the Wayback machine might too (but I’m too lazy to check)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5616 "2017-05-26T03:07:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Following the news that Jared Kushner is the target of an FBI investigation, he has completely wiped every single one of his tweets off Twitter.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/jaredkushner)

Oh…he is _sooooooo_ guilty!

Hey, Chris Christie! Sending Jared to jail like you did his old man? _Exquisite revenge._

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5617 "2017-05-26T03:09:35Z")

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I don’t think he was a Twitter user. I made the same claim, possibly in this thread, and was corrected.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5618 "2017-05-26T03:10:18Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Following the news that Jared Kushner is the target of an FBI investigation, he has completely wiped every single one of his tweets off Twitter.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/jaredkushner)

Ain’t this an old debunked CT?

The twitter part I mean

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5619 "2017-05-26T03:10:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Following the news that Jared Kushner is the target of an FBI investigation, he has completely wiped every single one of his tweets off Twitter.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/jaredkushner)

From what I can tell using the Wayback Machine at [archive.org](http://archive.org), his twitter feed has been empty as of late last year. So it’s unlikely he deleted everything just now. That said, I can find tweets from 2011, but that’s it. There’s a snapshot of the page in 2014, which only has the 2011 tweets, and then the next snapshot and series of them starting in October 2016 show “jaredkushner hasn’t tweeted yet.”

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5620 "2017-05-26T03:12:33Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> Ain’t this an old debunked CT?
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> The twitter part I mean

Ah, I thought it sounded familiar. I somehow forgot it was Kushner in the case I was thinking of before.[Here’s the story](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-jared-kushner-did-not-scrub-his-twitter-account/article/2618600).

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