# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 283
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5641 "2017-05-26T20:56:42Z")
(to [clarify that statement](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/21/climate/how-americans-think-about-climate-change-in-six-maps.html) : over 55% of Americans believe that global warming actually is a Thing and it will negatively affect American citizens, but even among the sane fewer than 30% believe it will negatively affect _them_, personally) ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5642 "2017-05-26T20:59:41Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Who was it that said the reason Americans vote against their own self-interest is because “there are no poor people in America, just temporarily-embarrassed millionaires”? Steinbeck, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5643 "2017-05-26T21:04:14Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Steinbeck, I believe. [Probably](http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/328134-socialism-never-took-root-in-america-because-the-poor-see)a guy named Ronald Wright. From [Wikiquote](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Steinbeck): > [@](#): > > Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. > > As quoted in A Short History of Progress (2004) by Ronald Wright. This has since been cited as a direct quote by some, but the remark may simply be a paraphrase, as no quotation marks appear around the statement and no earlier publication of this phrasing has been located. > > This is perhaps an incorrect quote from Steinbeck’s article “A Primer on the '30s.” Esquire, June 1960: > > "Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: ‘After the revolution even we will have more, won’t we, dear?’ Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picknickers on her property. > > “I guess the trouble was that we didn’t have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew—at least they claimed to be Communists—couldn’t have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5644 "2017-05-26T21:04:54Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > (to [clarify that statement](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/21/climate/how-americans-think-about-climate-change-in-six-maps.html) : over 55% of Americans believe that global warming actually is a Thing and it will negatively affect American citizens, but even among the sane fewer than 30% believe it will negatively affect _them_, personally) That’s because we don’t live near the coasts. Ohio for the global warming win! To be honest, I do not expect to have all that many negatives in my life due to global warming, just as I don’t have all that many negatives from Trump being president. The fact that these problems do not affect me personally, however, is not a good reason to not be concerned about them. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5645 "2017-05-26T21:37:12Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > If nothing else, Trump will definitely clarify the whole Area 51 thing. If the American government has indeed been hiding extraterrestrials, there’s no way he can avoid blabbing about it, especially the closer he gets to impeachment. Alex Jones must be chomping at the bit to see those files. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5646 "2017-05-26T22:20:09Z")
Good God. That’s something I hadn’t considered before. If aliens are really out there and in contact with our government and they told Trump, I would bet $100 against your penny that his first question was either to ask if they liked him, or what they thought of his electoral victory. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5647 "2017-05-26T22:27:48Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Good God. That’s something I hadn’t considered before. > > If aliens are really out there and in contact with our government and they told Trump, I would bet $100 against your penny that his first question was either to ask if they liked him, or what they thought of his electoral victory. But Trump would tell them how bigly it was, just like his crowd sizes and hand size. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5648 "2017-05-26T22:40:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Melania’s jacket that she wore at the NATO leaders meeting is a Dolce & Gabbana that costs $51,500. > [http://uk.businessinsider.com/melania-trump-dolce-and-gabbana-floral-coat-2017-5?r=US&IR=T](http://uk.businessinsider.com/melania-trump-dolce-and-gabbana-floral-coat-2017-5?r=US&IR=T) Once again proving that money can’t buy taste. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5649 "2017-05-26T23:20:47Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Once again proving that money can’t buy taste. Or, competence, hand size, or Manhattan class. Which seems to be one thing he’s still never gotten and resents. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5650 "2017-05-26T23:24:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Good God. That’s something I hadn’t considered before. > > If aliens are really out there and in contact with our government and they told Trump, I would bet $100 against your penny that his first question was either to ask if they liked him, or what they thought of his electoral victory. Or, “How did they get a visa?” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5651 "2017-05-26T23:42:40Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Once again proving that money can’t buy taste. I keep hearing how beautiful "his women"are, but, tacky clothing aside, I’m not seeing it. If anything, the tacky clothing gives even more of a “King Ralph” air to the orangeman and his family. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5652 "2017-05-26T23:49:21Z")
Eh. I wouldn’t kick a 1989 Marla Maples outta bed. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5653 "2017-05-27T00:08:17Z")
I think Ivanka is really creepy in a Stepford Wifey way. She’s Daddy’s Ultimate Product, the perfect fruit of his perfect loins. She’s obviously had a fuckton of work done, so she will pretty enough for Daddy to love her. She’s the Ultimate Achievement in the Trump branding efforts. And Ivanka’s in this Russia thing up to her surgically enhanced little neck. She’s besties with Roman Abromovich’s (Putin’s favorite oligarch) wife and with a woman that allegedly used to date Vladimir Putin ( she denies it) . This woman - Wendie Deng- also used to be Rupert Murdoch’s girlfriend. There’s a joke in there but its eluding me. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5654 "2017-05-27T00:19:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Navy SEALS made a raid on a village in Yemen to take down al-Qaeda militants. Two militants were killed, five civilians who live in the village were killed. The rest of the al-Qaeda operative in the village got away. > US Central Command says all of the dead are from al-Qaeda. > [US raid killed five Yemen civilians, says rights group disputing official story | Yemen | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/24/us-military-yemen-raid-al-qaida-civilian-deaths) Of course. Just as, long ago, every dead Vietnamese was a member of the Viet Cong… ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5655 "2017-05-27T00:26:34Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Once again proving that money can’t buy taste. Wonder how they tried to explained to him that he could not spray paint the Oval Office desk gold. It’s just too easy to chastise him for his obvious personal faults. But we must stay focused on the real problems of his administration. The list is getting so long that we may become complacent or overwhelmed. How can a person possibly keep track of them all? We have jobs to do too. But we must continue to talk to our representatives, family and friends about what is happening. > **[Find and contact elected officials | USAGov](https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials/)** > > Use USAGov’s Contact Your Elected Officials tool to get contact information for your members of Congress, the president, and state and local officials. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5656 "2017-05-27T00:33:51Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Good God. That’s something I hadn’t considered before. > > If aliens are really out there and in contact with our government and they told Trump, I would bet $100 against your penny that his first question was either to ask if they liked him, or what they thought of his electoral victory. 😃 This is priceless! You know that satellite (or whatever it was) that we sent into outer space with Mozart and stuff on it in case there were aliens who wanted to get to know us? Well, on the next one that goes out, Trump wants a map of the United States showing the states he carried, and pictures of the crowd at the Inauguration proclaiming them the largest crowds ever for any event held on earth since the beginning of time (right before God created Adam & Eve). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5657 "2017-05-27T00:38:03Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > To be honest, I do not expect to have all that many negatives in my life due to global warming But here’s the joke : it _already does_ negatively impact your life, even in the depths of Ohio. Trump probably does, too - if only because his tweets have proven to have a disruptive effect on global markets. Just because you don’t get a sewage tsunami on your lawn doesn’t mean none of the shit is raining down on you. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5658 "2017-05-27T00:42:31Z")
So with Flynn getting ready to spill the beans and Kushner getting outed by the WaPo, I got this from a Facebook activist page: > [@](#): > > A few months ago President Troll, accompanied by his the first lady Ms. Gold-digger, directed his VP Mr. HomoPhobe to meet with the chief strategist Mr. Bigot and the Attorney General Mr. Liar, to discuss the disturbing situation involving the national security adviser Mr. Collusion, who later resigned. The head of housing Mr. Ignorant, and the Education dept head Ms Total Idiot avoided any questions regarding the matter. Press secretary Mr. Deflect and the presidential counselor Ms Alternative facts were not available for comment. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5659 "2017-05-27T00:50:23Z")
Remember Hillary Clinton and her emails? Now we have [Pence and his emails](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-indiana-records-backlog-pence-emails-20170526-story.html). ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5660 "2017-05-27T00:50:44Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > what an embarrassment he is :mad: Yeah the orange buffoon is a HUGE embarrassment ! :mad: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=282) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=284)