# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5801 "2017-05-31T19:35:41Z")

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Vlad still wants to get his Exxon oil drilling back in the arctic. Not sure of the path from Paris to the arctic though.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5802 "2017-05-31T20:31:58Z")

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[Not the Onion](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335809-spicer-offers-cryptic-explanation-for-trump-covfefe-tweet):

“The president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant” --Sean Spicer, asked to explain “covfefe” tweet.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5803 "2017-05-31T20:56:56Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> [Not the Onion](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335809-spicer-offers-cryptic-explanation-for-trump-covfefe-tweet):
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> “The president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant” --Sean Spicer, asked to explain “covfefe” tweet.

Is he sending out coded messages to his Russian handlers?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5804 "2017-05-31T20:59:14Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> [Not the Onion](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335809-spicer-offers-cryptic-explanation-for-trump-covfefe-tweet):
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> “The president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant” --Sean Spicer, asked to explain “covfefe” tweet.

This can’t possibly be intended to be believable, can it?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5805 "2017-05-31T21:06:57Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This can’t possibly be intended to be believable, can it?

Does support the “tackled before he could finish” theory. Those who tackled him being the “small group of people”.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5806 "2017-05-31T21:13:06Z")

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It’s like they’re acting out deleted scenes from “Veep” in real time.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5807 "2017-05-31T21:31:45Z")

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The concerning thing to keep in mind is that we are seeing the Trump administration at their best, with no stress test. Imagine he hadn’t inherited leadership of a country that is actually doing quite well, or if (when) something goes badly.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5808 "2017-05-31T21:41:16Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This can’t possibly be intended to be believable, can it?

Just has to be believable by the people who still think Jim Bakker is a man of God.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5809 "2017-05-31T22:14:17Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It occurs to me that Trump’s problem with Angela Merkel is that she presents a Hillary Clinton vibe-- smart, unsexy, strong woman, politically experienced, very wonky, not someone likely to be flattered/amused by or forgiving of a pussy-grab.
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> Don’t you just wish he’d try it with Merkel? She’d probably deck him as she uttered a perfect, spontaneous, multi-syllabic German insult. A pan of cashew fudge to the Doper who can come up with that insult.

stecknadelkopfimarsch?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5810 "2017-05-31T22:16:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Is he sending out coded messages to his Russian handlers?

Of course, to which Putin responds:

“Extraction denied.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5811 "2017-05-31T22:25:28Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This can’t possibly be intended to be believable, can it?

It’s as believable as when someone with a black eye credits that to a doorknob. But it isn’t a concern to the Republicans in power. They had words to say. Words, you hear me?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5812 "2017-05-31T22:37:56Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Kurzfinger-Vulgär.
> 
> German for Short Fingered Vulgar.
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> or
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> Kurtzfinger-Plebejer-Verlierer
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> Short fingered ‘Plebeian’, which is what Google Translate wants to translate ‘vulgarian’ into.

I like it. Let’s add a word: “Kurtzfinger-Plebejer-_Verlierer_” (loser?)

> [@eschereal](#):
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> stecknadelkopfimarsch?

Has a nice rhythm. Please break that down for me.  
Googling cashew fudge recipes now.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5813 "2017-05-31T22:50:48Z")

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So, I started watching season five of House of Cards last night.

President Underwood is a murdering, cheating, conniving, back-stabbing bastard – but he at least seems to remember what he said the previous day AND he speaks in complete sentences. I actually pondered which was worse for the country for a few minutes.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5814 "2017-05-31T23:53:01Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> So, I started watching season five of House of Cards last night.
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> President Underwood is a murdering, cheating, conniving, back-stabbing bastard – but he at least seems to remember what he said the previous day AND he speaks in complete sentences. I actually pondered which was worse for the country for a few minutes.

You’ve got a point.

What would make DJT the MOST dangerous? Average intelligence, superior intelligence, or his current sub-normal intelligence?

On NPR program “[Think](http://think.kera.org/2017/05/31/the-secret-doomsday-plan-of-the-u-s-government/)” today, author Garret Graff talked about his book, “Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government’s Secret Plan to Save Itself — While the Rest of Us Die.” Quite a good program-- Krys Boyd is right up there with Terry Gross as an interviewer.

Graff talked about the last few days of the Nixon Administration. He said Defense Secretary James Schlesinger did everything he could to make sure Nixon didn’t start a nuclear war out of rage and spite. He instructed the Pentagon not to follow any orders from the President. When Nixon went on TV to resign, the nuclear football was not with him. I believe Nixon had above average intelligence. And look how dangerous his closest advisors thought he was near the end.

The trouble is, Trump’s closest advisors are either as stupid as he is, or else they have no integrity, or else they’re family. As I’ve said over and over, WHO will stop him if he does go over the edge? No one.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5815 "2017-05-31T23:59:34Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You’ve got a point.
> 
> What would make DJT the MOST dangerous? Average intelligence, superior intelligence, or his current sub-normal intelligence? …  
> The trouble is, Trump’s closest advisors are either as stupid as he is, or else they have no integrity, or else they’re family. As I’ve said over and over, WHO will stop him if he does go over the edge? No one.

All things considered, I’d prefer Underwood. He is evil but at least he is not fucking stupid. He would know not to kill the “golden goose”.  
“A man who is used to acting in one way never changes; he must come to ruin when the times, in changing, no longer are in harmony with his ways.” Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him. Niccolo Machiavelli

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5816 "2017-06-01T00:06:04Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This can’t possibly be intended to be believable, can it?

Trump’s aphasia is showing. His mental deterioration is getting worse.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5817 "2017-06-01T02:26:00Z")

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“_ **I will** _ be announcing [my decision on Paris Accord](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335869-trump-to-announce-paris-climate-deal-decision-thursday), Thursday at 3:00 P.M. The White House Rose Garden. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

What an insecure little prick. Always has to be the center of attention.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5818 "2017-06-01T03:08:24Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> “_ **I will** _ be announcing [my decision on Paris Accord](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335869-trump-to-announce-paris-climate-deal-decision-thursday), Thursday at 3:00 P.M. The White House Rose Garden. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
> 
> What an insecure little prick. Always has to be the center of attention.

Great.  
Really I shouldn’t be surprised about this, despite all the hubbub of _not_ pulling out of the agreement [six weeks ago](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-17/exxon-and-shell-join-ivanka-trump-to-defend-paris-climate-accord).

And of course:

> [@](#):
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> On the other side are senior adviser Stephen Bannon and \*\*Environmental Protection Agency \*\*Administrator Scott Pruitt, who on Friday said “we need to exit” the pact.

Bolded for making perfect inverse universe sense.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5819 "2017-06-01T03:12:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> “_ **I will** _ be announcing [my decision on Paris Accord](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335869-trump-to-announce-paris-climate-deal-decision-thursday), Thursday at 3:00 P.M. The White House Rose Garden. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
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> What an insecure little prick. Always has to be the center of attention.

Are American reporters invited? Or just the Russian ones?

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/5820 "2017-06-01T03:36:38Z")

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Make America Covfefe Again! 😃  
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