# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41 "2016-12-07T19:57:31Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > How’s that drainy swampy thing workin’ out for ya’? Swimmingly. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42 "2016-12-07T20:06:33Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I can’t remember either but he did stir up quite a furor. That’s IT! **The Stirrer.** No, wait, that’s not it… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/43 "2016-12-07T20:31:25Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Deal–I don’t care how much you talk about Trump, I care that the constant flow of new TRUMP!!! OUTRAGE!!! threads are killing any other BBQ Pit non-Trump content. 🙂 Killing? How? ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/44 "2016-12-07T20:47:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Killing? How? It’s bumping them down. There are currently 6 specifically anti-Trump threads currently in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![milquetoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@milquetoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milquetoast)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/45 "2016-12-07T20:50:34Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > That’s IT! > > **The Stirrer.** > > No, wait, that’s not it… Now, this? This is fucking funny. 😃 In fact, I’m now picturing the Nazis given their salute not with a flat palm, but with a slightly cupped palm so as to invoke the image of a spoon. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/46 "2016-12-07T20:56:20Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Would that be the same Wall Street that thought you could do no better in the late 1920s than to put all your money in the stock market? Or would it be the one that thought the same thing all over again in the early months of 1930? No I’m pretty sure those guys are all dead. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/47 "2016-12-07T20:58:00Z")
> [@milquetoast](#): > > Now, this? This is fucking funny. 😃 > > In fact, I’m now picturing the Nazis given their salute not with a flat palm, but with a slightly cupped palm so as to invoke the image of a spoon. And they don’t hold them still, but move the hand in a small, circular motion. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/48 "2016-12-07T21:00:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I take your point, but to me it’s more like the [scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idle_UTEAvs)from Gone with the Wind, when Scarlett O’Hara goes to the train yard where the wounded soldiers have been laid out. It starts with a close-up of her walking among a few soldiers, but as the camera backs up and moves vertically up, the scene gets wider and wider until Scarlett is just a speck and the wounded [fill the entire movie screen.](http://media.jrn.com/images/gone2_8460066_ver1.0_640_480.jpg) > I may post one or two articles every few days, but I’m choosing from among dozens and dozens in just the few publications that I read. The number of articles, opinion pieces, editorials, op-eds, letters to the editor expressing dismay and disgust at Trump’s behavior, etc. is vast. The stuff I post is (to coin a phrase) the tip of the iceberg… the iceberg that many (including me) fear the Ship of State is headed into. Will there be lifeboats for all? I think not. > > Like I said before, if you’re weary of reading the stuff I cite from elsewhere, don’t click into my threads. And I \*will \*try to cut back. I’m not weary of it and I am for more speech not less. There are a few reasons why I participate on sites where I am a minority expressed viewpoint. One is I like to see what is effective speech, at least from my subjective point of view. You got a point though. Trump is that unusual of a president-elect that perhaps the volume of critique serves a useful purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/49 "2016-12-07T21:18:22Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > It’s bumping them down. There are currently 6 specifically anti-Trump threads currently in the Pit. That’s out of 24 active in the past two days. Not really killing the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/50 "2016-12-07T21:33:06Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > That’s out of 24 active in the past two days. Not really killing the forum. Yeah, but when they all say essentially the same damn thing, it just becomes clutter. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/51 "2016-12-07T21:51:50Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Yeah, but when they all say essentially the same damn thing, it just becomes clutter. Even though we’re now in a post-fact era, I’d like to stick to facts. You actually have to read the threads (or at least the OP) to see that they don’t say the same thing. Yes, the theme is the same as the title of this thread, but the threads of mine currently on the front page of the Pit ( **SIX** , including this one) are as follows and deal with different aspects of Trump. “Is it that the Dems don’t understand white, working-class America?” No, that’s not it (Not about Trump specifically, but about Trump voters) Trump launches multi-state victory lap (Perpetual campaign begins-- the Big Ego requires it) Trump may not submit a budget next year (DT is going to practice opacity instead of transparency) Trump rewards big donors with Cabinet posts (DT selling cabinet posts) Will Trump Keep His Business Interests Separate from the Presidency? (Mingling the two means DT and family can make lots of money through “honest graft”) There are **TWENTY-SEVEN** other Trump-bashing (or closely related to Trump-bashing) threads currently on the front page of the Pit that aren’t mine. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/52 "2016-12-07T22:19:52Z")
Can I add something to bashing his cabinet appointments? He’s picked the Oklahoma attorney general, currently suing the EPA, [to be the new head of the EPA](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/07/trump-names-scott-pruitt-oklahoma-attorney-general-suing-epa-on-climate-change-to-head-the-epa/?utm_term=.6a918f83d46d). He thus proves what I have suspected for the last 3 weeks at least; he does not intend to run the government, he intends to disassemble its component parts down to bare rock, then nuke them to be sure they’re dead. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/53 "2016-12-07T22:24:58Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Can I add something to bashing his cabinet appointments? > > He’s picked the Oklahoma attorney general, currently suing the EPA, [to be the new head of the EPA](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/07/trump-names-scott-pruitt-oklahoma-attorney-general-suing-epa-on-climate-change-to-head-the-epa/?utm_term=.6a918f83d46d). He thus proves what I have suspected for the last 3 weeks at least; he does not intend to run the government, he intends to disassemble its component parts down to bare rock, then nuke them to be sure they’re dead. From orbit? That would require funding NASA. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/54 "2016-12-07T22:26:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > From orbit? That would require funding NASA. It’s the only way to be sure. It also makes sense. Pence will be handling foreign and domestic policy. Trump gets to handle outer space. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/55 "2016-12-07T22:44:48Z")
Grope. Not handle, grope. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/56 "2016-12-08T00:01:31Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Can I add something to bashing his cabinet appointments?.. Absolutely. > [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Grope. Not handle, grope. Good one. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/57 "2016-12-08T02:56:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > There are **TWENTY-SEVEN** other Trump-bashing (or closely related to Trump-bashing) threads currently on the front page of the Pit that aren’t mine. True, but I don’t think they’re all started by the same person. Seriously, are you going to start a new thread every time the guy sneezes? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/58 "2016-12-08T03:45:44Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Godwin? Hitler. Stalin. Khomeini. Putin. Man Of The Year is about perceived importance, not how good a person you are. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/59 "2016-12-08T03:48:26Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Hitler. Stalin. Khomeini. Putin. > > Man Of The Year is about perceived importance, not how good a person you are. I know. I was making a mild joke. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/60 "2016-12-08T04:46:39Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > True, but I don’t think they’re all started by the same person. Seriously, are you going to start a new thread every time the guy sneezes? What’s it to you? Anyway, I addressed this question upthread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=4)