# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6022 "2017-06-04T03:31:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Trump skips a WH-promoted rally to take a vacation.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-house-hyped-pittsburgh-not-164200824.html)
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> Biggest rally ever of under one hundred in attendance.

What a coincidence! The total IQ of the crowd matched the number of people in the crowd.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6023 "2017-06-04T04:33:49Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> but it was still stupid - since the people of Paris were not being specifically helped over the people of the US.
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> Its a nice meme - but its completely wrong - like everything else he does.

Oh yes. But that’s quintessential Trump. He’s like those old Hollywood western streets - all facade, empty hot air behind.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6024 "2017-06-04T04:58:07Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Meh, I think you’re overthinking that one. He (or his speechwriters) likely picked Pittsburgh for the simple reason that it’s an American city that starts with a P and has two syllables, like Paris. Which gives the phrase a nice rhetorical rhythm. Could just as easily have been Portland or Portsmouth.

My point was not that I was over thinking it, but that Trump did pick the city in a very unwise way, if not a very simple and dumb way.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6025 "2017-06-04T04:58:47Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You mean the one the courts have already blocked twice?

Judges appointed by that black guy.

> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Screwing it up royally might mean 500 million americans die in friendly fire incident too you know. No I’m not complacent.

Wow, I lost count. Are there that many undocumented immigrants?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6026 "2017-06-04T05:03:43Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Judges appointed by that black guy.  
> Wow, I lost count. Are there that many undocumented immigrants?

It’s all the terrorists that have been pouring into the country due to the judges’ interference with King Donald’s decrees.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6027 "2017-06-04T05:27:59Z")

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> **[Donald Trump links himself to InfoWars once again](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/donald-trump-infowars-link/)**
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> Once again, it's all about crowd size.

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> Donald Trump administration issues press release that links to InfoWars article

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> That InfoWars story purported that “Trump Supporters Outnumber Climate Change Advocates at White House.” So, once again, the Trump administration is concerned about crowd size.

I was beginning to feel sorry for the conservatives at the SDMB. They have to constantly defend a guy that is relying on the anti-Straight Dope for information.

But I will manage to not let those feelings get in the way of busting their bubbles. 🙂

More seriously though, it **should** give pause to any thinking conservative that Trump could be convinced to get into a war thanks to the crap that conspiracy sites like that one spew.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6028 "2017-06-04T05:41:25Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Screwing it up royally might mean 500 million americans die in friendly fire incident too you know. No I’m not complacent.

Trump genuinely screwing up a genuine crisis is more of a concern to me than Trump successfully parlaying outside forces or creating a crisis to shore up his power or approval numbers.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6029 "2017-06-04T05:56:32Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Trump genuinely screwing up a genuine crisis is more of a concern to me than Trump successfully parlaying outside forces or creating a crisis to shore up his power or approval numbers.

¿ Porqué no los dos ? Dubya managed it in Iraq after all. First he created a crisis, then he screwed it up something so fierce we’re \*still \*shoveling the shit. I’m confident this administration is more than on par with W’s, both in terms of dearth of ethics and surplus of mind-boggling incompetence. Have faith :o.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6030 "2017-06-04T05:57:04Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Judges appointed by that black guy.

George W. Bush was _black_?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6031 "2017-06-04T06:01:58Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Screwing it up royally might mean 500 million americans die in friendly fire incident too you know. No I’m not complacent.

Is that 500 million of the 325 million in the USA, or 500 of the 850 million combined in North and South America?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6032 "2017-06-04T13:59:43Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> …Don’t you just wish he’d try it with Merkel? She’d probably deck him as she uttered a perfect, spontaneous, multi-syllabic German insult. …

I just came across a great German word that fits DJT perfectly:

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> Backpfeifengesicht  
> (‘a face in need of a fist.’)

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6033 "2017-06-04T18:04:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Is that 500 million of the 325 million in the USA, or 500 of the 850 million combined in North and South America?

Yes I was referring to the Americas. Ahem…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6034 "2017-06-04T18:19:17Z")

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Trump is criticizing the Muslim mayor of London for his response to the terror attacks. In response, Mayor Khan’s spokesman said, “the mayor had “more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks”.”

> **[Donald Trump berates London mayor over response to terror attacks](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/trump-berates-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-terror-attacks)**
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> President criticises Sadiq Khan and uses attack to justify travel ban before mayor’s spokesman calls tweet ‘ill-informed’ and deliberately out of context

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6035 "2017-06-04T18:21:17Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> 2016 Election Results; Allegheny County (Pittsburg)
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> Clinton 367,617  
> Trump 259,480
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> Doesn’t give the figures for other candidates, but that would be 58.6% to 41.4% counting just those voters. Nice 17 point margin.

Fake news, so sad, so unfair, bigly crowds.

Rinse and repeate.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6036 "2017-06-04T18:24:06Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You mean the one the courts have already blocked twice?

He’s taken it to the Supreme Court and supposedly he has been calling up the judges.

More of his crooked so called “deal making” going on?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6037 "2017-06-04T18:25:25Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> He’s taken it to the Supreme Court and supposedly he has been calling up the judges.
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> More of his crooked so called “deal making” going on?

Isn’t that illegal?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6038 "2017-06-04T18:27:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump is criticizing the Muslim mayor of London for his response to the terror attacks. In response, Mayor Khan’s spokesman said, “the mayor had “more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks”.”
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> [Donald Trump berates London mayor over response to terror attacks | London Bridge attack 2017 | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/trump-berates-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-terror-attacks)

He started off OK with the boilerplate US stands with you, etc etc…but he couldn’t let it go, and had to harangue the mayor over something taken out of context. The fact that the mayor is a Muslim is, I’m sure, not relevant at all, no sir.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6039 "2017-06-04T18:28:36Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> ¿ Porqué no los dos ? Dubya managed it in Iraq after all. First he created a crisis, then he screwed it up something so fierce we’re \*still \*shoveling the shit. I’m confident this administration is more than on par with W’s, both in terms of dearth of ethics and surplus of mind-boggling incompetence. Have faith :o.

No, “W” was not that clever or devious. The plan had been in place for years (ref: “The New American Century”, and the Neocons)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6040 "2017-06-04T18:30:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Isn’t that illegal?

Who knows. It sure smells bad to me, and should at LEAST be seen as grossly unethical.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6041 "2017-06-04T18:48:25Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Isn’t that illegal?

It’s OK If Trump Does It.

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