# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 305
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6082 "2017-06-05T16:21:32Z")
Shit For Brains announces plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control. This Is Great! Just wait until Privatized Air Traffic Control introduces “Surge Pricing”. “Roger that United Fifty-Eight Heavy. Each of your customers will be charged an extra 58 dollars upon landing.” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6083 "2017-06-05T16:29:11Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I think the absolute opposite is true. He doesn’t understand \*any \*of this shit, and he’s terrified he’s gonna look like an idiot or worse, like he’s less than these people who actually read, and learn, and know. And so he overcompensates like a motherfuck. Excellent analysis! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6084 "2017-06-05T16:33:19Z")
> [@little\_pig](#): > > shit for brains announces plan to privatize air traffic control. This is great! Just wait until privatized air traffic control introduces “surge pricing”. > “roger that united fifty-eight heavy. Each of your customers will be charged an extra 58 dollars upon landing.” :eek: …_or else_! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6085 "2017-06-05T16:38:27Z")
Trump staffers were shocked when the speech he gave at NATO was not the one they had worked on prior to his appearance. [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6086 "2017-06-05T16:40:07Z")
Oh sweet Jesus… [Donald Trump challenges London Mayor Sadiq Khan to an IQ Test](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-36299929/donald-trump-challenges-sadiq-khan-to-iq-test) ETA: Just noticed the date on that. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6087 "2017-06-05T16:44:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Oh sweet Jesus… > > [Donald Trump challenges London Mayor Sadiq Khan to an IQ Test](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-36299929/donald-trump-challenges-sadiq-khan-to-iq-test) > > ETA: Just noticed the date on that. Oh well. If anybody appeared on a Piers Morgan show, I would challenge their IQ. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6088 "2017-06-05T16:53:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Oh sweet Jesus… > > [Donald Trump challenges London Mayor Sadiq Khan to an IQ Test](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-36299929/donald-trump-challenges-sadiq-khan-to-iq-test) > > ETA: Just noticed the date on that. Oh well. Trump thinks in golf terms, low score wins. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6089 "2017-06-05T17:26:59Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Oh sweet Jesus… > > [Donald Trump challenges London Mayor Sadiq Khan to an IQ Test](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-36299929/donald-trump-challenges-sadiq-khan-to-iq-test) > > ETA: Just noticed the date on that. Oh well. I don’t think Jesus (Sweet or Sour) has anything to do with it. I do hope Shit For Brains takes up the mayor of London on the IQ challenge. It could be televised globally, watched by 4 Billion souls. Any recommendations who would sponsor the event? Cocal-Cola, KFC, Pampers? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6090 "2017-06-05T17:33:40Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Dumbfuck-In-Chief reacts to CNN, undermines his own press people and SCOTUS case. > [Tweet 1](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871674214356484096) > > [Tweet 2](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871675245043888128) > > [Tweet 3](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871677472202477568) > > [Tweet 4](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871679061847879682) As I recall, the travel ban was demanded so that the current procedures for reviewing and approving visas could be revised, within 90 days or so. With or without the ban, 90 days have passed. What, if anything has been done to revise these procedures, and if nothing has been done, how is it that the revisions can only take place during a travel ban? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6091 "2017-06-05T17:57:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump staffers were shocked when the speech he gave at NATO was not the one they had worked on prior to his appearance. > [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227) This is truly alarming. If the story is true, it means that Mattis and McMasters (the so-called “adults in the room”) are having their decisions overridden by Bannon and Miller, and that’s a frightening prospect. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6092 "2017-06-05T18:00:29Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I’m not sure of this part: “He must know somewhere below the surface he skates on that he has destroyed his image”. He’s always been seen as an egotistical asshole, so he didn’t really have much of a positive image to destroy. People always knew he was a selfish, petulant, self-aggrandizing arse ; but they thought he was a good businessman and knew his shit too - that he was confident, self-assured. Full of himself, yes, but that he’d earned it through grit and savvy. Now most everybody sees him for an incompetent \*nekulturnyi \*idiot who also happens to be an arse. That’s quite a bit worse. [QUOTE=Little Pig] Shit For Brains announces plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control. This Is Great! Just wait until Privatized Air Traffic Control introduces “Surge Pricing”. [/QUOTE] Heh, wait until they ask for airlines to pay a premium so they don’t have to stay one hour in the loop before landing. Or introduce a surcharge for safety & emergencies. “What’s that ? Engine on fire ? That sounds bad, sir, but you’re not on the list. We’ll get to you when we get to you a’ight ? Have a nice day.”. Or just cut every corner they can until a 747 crashes, then another, then another, and everyone in charge is just puzzled by the result of having people do 12h shifts 7/7 with no training… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6093 "2017-06-05T18:03:35Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > I don’t think Jesus (Sweet or Sour) has anything to do with it. I do hope Shit For Brains takes up the mayor of London on the IQ challenge. It could be televised globally, watched by 4 Billion souls. > > Any recommendations who would sponsor the event? Cocal-Cola, KFC, Pampers? depends. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6094 "2017-06-05T18:04:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump staffers were shocked when the speech he gave at NATO was not the one they had worked on prior to his appearance. > [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227) One thing that’s surprised me about this administration is that Rex Tillerson sometimes actually seems to care about the US position in the world. This is not to say I think Tillerson is a particularly _good_ Secretary of State, just that he doesn’t seem to be quite as awful as most of the people around him. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6095 "2017-06-05T18:38:38Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > People always knew he was a selfish, petulant, self-aggrandizing arse ; but they thought he was a good businessman and knew his shit too - that he was confident, self-assured. Full of himself, yes, but that he’d earned it through grit and savvy. > > Now most everybody sees him for an incompetent \*nekulturnyi \*idiot who also happens to be an arse. That’s quite a bit worse. A critical review of Trump’s supposed accomplishments as a real estate magnate, “educator”, and entrepreneur would demonstrate that is a poor businessman with a grasp of ethics that would shock even the guys at Enron. Anybody who justified voting for Trump because of the fiscal acumen that he brought to the position is as ignorant as they are gullible. You can read his fucking treatise on business, _The Art of the Deal_ (which, no, he did not actually write, but was strung together from various quotes and comments by a ghostwriter, then blessed and promoted by Trump himself. You don’t need to read very far into it–in fact, you don’t need to read past the introduction, since Trump himself probably has not–to observe that his “business” strategy is based on bluster, bullshit, and intimidation, hence why most people who have done business with Trump in the past do not seek to work with him again. > [@Bayard](#): > > One thing that’s surprised me about this administration is that Rex Tillerson sometimes actually seems to care about the US position in the world. This is not to say I think Tillerson is a particularly _good_ Secretary of State, just that he doesn’t seem to be quite as awful as most of the people around him. Tillerson does actually appear to be motivated by a desire for service. His aversion to the press, however, indicates that he is well aware of his shortcomings, and the dismissal of so many senior State department officials has left him without an experience cadre of advisors who understand both the issues and the complexities of dealing with adverse governments and interests. He’s not the most terrible choice for the role, at least in comparison with, say, Ben Carson or Rudy Guiliani, but he’s clearly out of his depth. For what it’s worth, I’m sure at least a few of the people Trump has appointed to Cabient and agency director positions genuinately feel that they are doing “the right thing”. I’m surve Betsy DeVos believes in her radical fundamentalist heart that she’s helping to prepare America for the Christian Apocalypse, and Scott Pruitt believes he’s fighting the good fight against acknowledging the evidence of global climate change. On the other hand, appointees like Elaine Chao, Mick Mulvaney, and Wilber Ross are clearly craven jackholes seeking only to improve themselves and their backers. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6096 "2017-06-05T20:06:35Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > I seeing lots of posts here saying it’s useless to contact your representatives. I hate, HATE reading those. They grate on me like posts saying that voting is useless. I’m lucky in that all my Congressmen and -women are anti-Chump Democrats. It would just be preaching to the choir. I just wish Hawaii had a little more pull. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6097 "2017-06-05T20:09:26Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Writing to one’s congressman is an exercise in futility. If that congressman is Republican, there is no chance whatever that your letter or email will be read, much less heeded. There was a letter in our local paper last weekend where the writer says he wrote to the state’s two senators and his congresswoman (all Republican), voicing concern about Trump sharing classified information with the Russians, and imploring them to do whatever was possible to keep him in check. He received only one reply, from one of the senators, explaining how impeachment was a very serious charge and they would not be willing to move forward without ample evidence, blah blah blah. Which the writer found odd, as he never mentioned anything about impeachment in his original letter. So, the Senate is willing to pull out all stops to stymie Obama, but short of impeachment (which is out of the question) they are powerless to stop Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6098 "2017-06-05T20:24:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump staffers were shocked when the speech he gave at NATO was not the one they had worked on prior to his appearance. > [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227) Love this quote: > [@](#): > > They (Trump’s team of Mattis, McMaster and Tillerson) may be the “adults in the room,” as the saying going around Washington these past few months had it. But Trump—and the NATO case shows this all too clearly—isn’t in the room with them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6099 "2017-06-05T20:26:02Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > One thing that’s surprised me about this administration is that Rex Tillerson sometimes actually seems to care about the US position in the world. This is not to say I think Tillerson is a particularly _good_ Secretary of State, just that he doesn’t seem to be quite as awful as most of the people around him. It’s hard for Exxon to make money when the oilfields are all on fire. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6100 "2017-06-05T20:40:10Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > … I just wish Hawaii had a little more pull. The courts in your neck of the woods sometimes apply their pull in a most efficient, significant way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6101 "2017-06-05T21:12:59Z")
The idea of liberals moving is not a bad one. Austin is quite liberal. Why not move there? Prices are lower than some of the bigger cities. All you’d be doing is speeding up what’s already happening, and the majority of the country supports the Democrats. You’d just be fixing a broken system. It just seems like something that we could actually do, without having to turn it into violence. Chances are that you city folks can afford it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=304) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=306)