# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 308
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6142 "2017-06-06T20:41:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Forbes. > > Holy shit. > > [How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business](https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/amp/) That article makes Eric out to be quite a generous, competent, and honest guy. Things only started to go haywire when his idiot narcissist father got “involved.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6143 "2017-06-06T20:49:20Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > It appears that the over $100 billion dollar arms deal that Trump announced while he was in Saudi Arabia was [fake news](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/breaking-trumps-saudi-arms-deal-actually-fake). Sad! Thanks\*\* Crotalus\*\*. So there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but no contracts. Anything that comes out of That Fuckers mouth is pure horse shit. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6144 "2017-06-06T21:00:49Z")
It’s all the more interesting when you read this: [https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-06/white-house-won-t-say-if-trump-backs-attorney-general-sessions](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-06/white-house-won-t-say-if-trump-backs-attorney-general-sessions) Trump can fire just about any damn person he pleases, but if he tries to force the surrender of General Beauregard, he might end up facing a mutiny. I can’t stand Sessions, but he also strikes me as someone Trump wouldn’t want to fuck with. One because he _is_ the sitting AG, and two because he still has a lot of connections in the Senate. I could see Sessions starting a whisper campaign that Trump is insane and the presidency needs to be saved by his Cabinet, which would then start ramping up open discussion in the senate of impeachment. Sessions could also decide to take more of a hands-off approach to leakers. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6145 "2017-06-06T21:02:42Z")
Check out the first photo [in this article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/04/20/working-class-whites-cant-handle-their-status-as-the-new-minority/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.bdcf4547d182), the photo where Shit For Brains is signing autographs. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6146 "2017-06-06T21:11:35Z")
I think there’s absolutely an escape route for Trump from this Russia investigation, but the thing is, there’s been one all along. He never had to do anything other than brag about beating Hillary Clinton on twitter. I know I’ve been cynical about Trump going down the drain, but I do begin to wonder: at what point does this shit start getting old for the Republican party? Their agenda is going absolutely nowhere despite having a solid majority of both houses and a GOP president who at least, in principle, seems okay with everything they want to put into law. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6147 "2017-06-06T21:30:03Z")
> [@bikerdruid](#): > > > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > > > When reminded that London mayor Sadiq Khan had called him “ignorant”, Trump retorted, “let’s do an IQ test”, thereby again revealing his ignorance by not understanding what an IQ test is intending to measure. In any case, I would place money on Sadiq Khan beating Donald Trump in an IQ test and hope that the contest can be arranged in the near future. > > When I first heard about this, I had the same thought. > Ignorance is lack of knowledge, not “intelligence.” Coincidentally, about half an hour before I read **bikerdruid** ’s post it popped into my head that the Party needs a revised slogan: **IGNORANCE IS INTELLIGENCE** One thing (among many) that raises my bile about Trump is that he’s not only ignorant, he’s _willfully, persistently_ ignorant. He has no interest in rectifying his ignorance; on the contrary, he revels in it and extols it as a virtue. And any evidence that could possibly refute his ignorant viewpoint is waved as #FakeNews (Sad!). That such a nincompoop presides over the country I call home is painful. That my children — and possibly their children — will have to live with the damage he is wreaking is intolerable. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6148 "2017-06-06T21:31:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > He hasn’t made the nominations he’s complaining about them holding up. There are only five ambassadorial appointments in train (including Callista Gingrich, for whom the paperwork is yet to be completed) and he’s way behind his predecessors in putting nominees forward for the 500+ other posts. What is it with Trump and imaginary people? I really wonder how much of the holdup is incompetence and how much is people refusing to work under Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6149 "2017-06-06T21:36:54Z")
Trump is now raging at Jeff Sessions. This hints at a deeply unsettling pattern. > [@](#): > > Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor of history at New York University who writes extensively on authoritarianism and Italian fascism, told me that a discernible trait of authoritarian and autocratic rulers is ongoing “frustration” with the “inability to make others do their bidding” and with “institutional and bureaucratic procedures and checks and balances.” > > “Trump doesn’t respect democratic procedure and finds it to be something that gets in his way,” Ben-Ghiat said. “The blaming of others is very typical of autocrats, because they have difficulty listening to a reality that doesn’t coincide with their version of it. It’s part of the authoritarian temperament to blame others when things aren’t working.” [https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/06/06/trump-is-now-raging-at-jeff-sessions-this-hints-at-a-deeply-unsettling-pattern/?utm\_term=.b04b404494a9&wpisrc=nl\_most-draw16&wpmm=1](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/06/06/trump-is-now-raging-at-jeff-sessions-this-hints-at-a-deeply-unsettling-pattern/?utm_term=.b04b404494a9&wpisrc=nl_most-draw16&wpmm=1) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6150 "2017-06-06T21:46:52Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think there’s absolutely an escape route for Trump from this Russia investigation, but the thing is, there’s been one all along. He never had to do anything other than brag about beating Hillary Clinton on twitter. I know I’ve been cynical about Trump going down the drain, but I do begin to wonder: at what point does this shit start getting old for the Republican party? **Their agenda is going absolutely nowhere despite having a solid majority of both houses and a GOP president who at least, in principle, seems okay with everything they want to put into law**. Bold added. [Musing]Makes it all the more remarkable to look back on all that Obama was able to accomplish with none of these advantages and many more obstacles (including, but not limited to, being a Kenyan-born Muslim). [/Musing] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6151 "2017-06-06T21:58:24Z")
Shit For Brains [Takes Credit](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/trump-qatar-saudi-arabia.html?mcubz=0&_r=0) for Saudi Move Against Qatar. Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6152 "2017-06-06T22:06:13Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Shit For Brains [Takes Credit](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/trump-qatar-saudi-arabia.html?mcubz=0&_r=0) for Saudi Move Against Qatar. > > Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. He might get a lesson in geography if / when Qatar threatens to evict the US military. I doubt we’ll see a knee-jerk reaction, but I’m guessing that Qatar isn’t going to forget this one. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6153 "2017-06-06T22:08:51Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Sure, they have last straws. If he was black/a democrat, his sizable ass would be in trouble. You forgot female. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6154 "2017-06-06T22:14:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He might get a lesson in geography if / when Qatar threatens to evict the US military. I doubt we’ll see a knee-jerk reaction, but I’m guessing that Qatar isn’t going to forget this one. Good point **asahi**. [Qatar hosts largest US military base](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/middleeast/qatar-us-largest-base-in-mideast/) in Mideast home to some 11,000 US military personnel. Another 50 bucks sez trump doesn’t know this. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6155 "2017-06-06T22:17:10Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > One word: Iraq. One question: Today, how are GWB and Dick Cheney and their administration viewed by most Americans, now that it is common knowledge that they lied and deceived the American public in order to goad us into war? No one likes to be played. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6156 "2017-06-06T22:18:09Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. He probably can’t pronounce it, either. Of course, neither can the Quatarians. If they want to pronounce it “cutter” they should spell it that way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6157 "2017-06-06T22:27:49Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by ThelmaLou View Post > > \Do the Repubs even HAVE a last straw?\ > > Sure, they have last straws. If he was black/a democrat, his sizable ass would be in trouble. I meant do they have a last straw where Trump is concerned? I’m thinking they may not. What if Trump shot Mitch McConnell on Fifth Avenue? Or divorced Melania to marry Bad Vlad Putin? ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6158 "2017-06-06T23:01:04Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > He probably can’t pronounce it, either. > > Of course, neither can the Quatarians. If they want to pronounce it “cutter” they should spell it that way. > > 🙂 They did have a “u” in their name during Pearl Forrester’s brief reign, but it didn’t last. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6159 "2017-06-06T23:07:24Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > One question: Today, how are GWB and Dick Cheney and their administration viewed by most Americans, now that it is common knowledge that they lied and deceived the American public in order to goad us into war? > > No one likes to be played. Most Republicans still love them, since they believe they saved us from the horrors of Hitler or something like that. Whatever. Is American Idol on? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6160 "2017-06-06T23:11:48Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > One question: Today, how are GWB and Dick Cheney and their administration viewed by most Americans, now that it is common knowledge that they lied and deceived the American public in order to goad us into war? > > No one likes to be played. In my experience, no republican I know (which includes my entire family) has ever badmouthed Bush or Cheney. They sort of gradually stopped talking about them after a while, but they never ever made a public reversal of opinion. Because while some people don’t like to be played, for republicans it seems to be much, much, much, _much_ more important to never concede they were ever wrong in the first place. This requires the ‘playing’ to be ignored or distracted from if possible, and defensively and rather clumsily denied if necessary. (But, her emails!) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6161 "2017-06-07T00:14:43Z")
So [when asked today if the President Trump still has confidence in Attorney General Jeffery B’d Sessions](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-suggested-could-resign-amid-223706714--abc-news-topstories.html), WH Spokesscreamer Sean Spicer said he couldn’t say. On follow-up, Spicer said "I said I have not had a discussion with [President Trump] on the question. I don’t, If I haven’t had a discussion about a subject, I tend not to speak about it.” Isn’t the proper response to this type of question, “Of course the president has full confidence in the attorney general”? On what planet is what Spicer said considered anything \*but \*a head-meets-bus-tire situation? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=307) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=309)