# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 309
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6162 "2017-06-07T00:24:10Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > They did have a “u” in their name during Pearl Forrester’s brief reign, but it didn’t last. Hey **Catamount** and **Other Dopers**. Remember this when you attack your next crossword puzzle. [Will Shortz](https://www.nytimes.com/times-journeys/expert/will-shortz/?mcubz=0) will definitely Fuck With You on this. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6163 "2017-06-07T01:03:40Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > So [when asked today if the President Trump still has confidence in Attorney General Jeffery B’d Sessions](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-suggested-could-resign-amid-223706714--abc-news-topstories.html), WH Spokesscreamer Sean Spicer said he couldn’t say. On follow-up, Spicer said "I said I have not had a discussion with [President Trump] on the question. I don’t, If I haven’t had a discussion about a subject, I tend not to speak about it.” > > Isn’t the proper response to this type of question, “Of course the president has full confidence in the attorney general”? On what planet is what Spicer said considered anything \*but \*a head-meets-bus-tire situation? likely because he’s a) tired of having his comments ‘corrected’ later by Trump b) been told directly by Trump ‘if you don’t hear it from me, don’t say it’ c) after following (b) still having (a) happen. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6164 "2017-06-07T01:04:33Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Good point **asahi**. [Qatar hosts largest US military base](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/middleeast/qatar-us-largest-base-in-mideast/) in Mideast home to some 11,000 US military personnel. > > Another 50 bucks sez trump doesn’t know this. 😃 I bet Mattis and McMaster and fucking pissed. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6165 "2017-06-07T01:15:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > One question: Today, how are GWB and Dick Cheney and their administration viewed by most Americans, now that it is common knowledge that they lied and deceived the American public in order to goad us into war? Few minds have changed, have they? “We \*had \*to get Saddam” etc. is the rationalization. > [@Punoqllads](#): > > I really wonder how much of the holdup is incompetence and how much is people refusing to work under Trump. Or most of the plausible candidates said something mean about him once so fuhgeddaboutit. If he had the chance, he’d humiliate them in person, like Christie or Romney, but now the word is out. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6166 "2017-06-07T02:00:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Most Republicans still love them, since they believe they saved us from the horrors of Hitler or something like that. This is not true IME. > [@begbert2](#): > > In my experience, no republican I know (which includes my entire family) has ever badmouthed Bush or Cheney. They sort of gradually stopped talking about them after a while, but they never ever made a public reversal of opinion. > > Because while some people don’t like to be played, for republicans it seems to be much, much, much, _much_ more important to never concede they were ever wrong in the first place. This requires the ‘playing’ to be ignored or distracted from if possible, and defensively and rather clumsily denied if necessary. > > (But, her emails!) This comports with my experience: Republicans shun them both. They don’t want to talk about Bush/Cheney because they have nothing good to say and they don’t want to have to defend those 8 years either. Not all disapproval has to take the form of vigorous, public yelling. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6167 "2017-06-07T02:09:19Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. [Seeing as when he visited Israel he didn’t know that it was in the Middle-East . . . .](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/22/trump_to_israelis_we_just_got_back_from_the_middle_east.html) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6168 "2017-06-07T02:31:33Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Shit For Brains [Takes Credit](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/trump-qatar-saudi-arabia.html?mcubz=0&_r=0) for Saudi Move Against Qatar. > > Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. I’d be impressed if he could find Washington on a map. Either one. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6169 "2017-06-07T02:35:11Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > I’d be impressed if he could find Washington on a map. Either one. I bet Sen. Franken (D-MN) could help him with that! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6170 "2017-06-07T02:45:34Z")
Given six to eight weeks of Ludovico Technique treatments, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6171 "2017-06-07T03:01:53Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@The\_Tooth](#): > > > > I’d be impressed if he could find Washington on a map. Either one. > > I bet Sen. Franken (D-MN) could help him with that! > **[Watch Sen. Al Franken draw a freehand map of U.S.](https://video.startribune.com/watch-sen-al-franken-draw-a-freehand-map-of-u-s/371403281/)** > > Franken drew a detailed map as a gift for a Washington Post reporter who is moving to Minnesota's Red Lake County after bashing it. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6172 "2017-06-07T03:07:17Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Given six to eight weeks of Ludovico Technique treatments, maybe. Appropriate, given Trump’s propensity for being orange and for sexually assaulting women. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6173 "2017-06-07T03:23:20Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > I’d be impressed if he could find Washington on a map. Either one. I think he’d struggle to find Washington on a quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6174 "2017-06-07T04:05:38Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Shit For Brains [Takes Credit](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/trump-qatar-saudi-arabia.html?mcubz=0&_r=0) for Saudi Move Against Qatar. > > Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. Funny how Qatar is now Deh Devuhl even though they aren’t on either of his travel bans. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6175 "2017-06-07T05:30:36Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I think he’d struggle to find Washington on a quarter. To be fair, he knows that Washington has done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6176 "2017-06-07T12:10:26Z")
Off topic, but I haven’t heard Priebus’s name in a month or so. Did he actually manage to extricate his name from front lines of the Trumptanic? Or more likely did he finally snap and run around naked and raving until he was chained in the attic? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6177 "2017-06-07T12:25:13Z")
“Trump Picks Christopher Wray to Be F.B.I. Director” [https://nyti.ms/2sSjsSm](https://nyti.ms/2sSjsSm) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — President Trump said Wednesday that he had selected the former federal prosecutor Christopher Wray, a partner at the Washington law firm King & Spalding, to be his new F.B.I. director… How long do we give him until he gets fired for doing his job? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6178 "2017-06-07T12:43:39Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Trump Picks Christopher Wray to Be F.B.I. Director” > [https://nyti.ms/2sSjsSm](https://nyti.ms/2sSjsSm) > > How long do we give him until he gets fired for doing his job? The _Times_ article fails to mention [this little tidbit.](http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/who-is-christopher-wray-donald-trump-nominates-new-fbi-boss.html) > [@](#): > > He represented New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie after the Bridgegate Scandal, in which the governor’s allies were found guilty of causing lane closures at the George Washington Bridge in 2013 as political retaliation. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6179 "2017-06-07T12:47:04Z")
Apparently helping overweight corrupt Republicans is a desirable line to have on your resume. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6180 "2017-06-07T12:49:03Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Shit For Brains [Takes Credit](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/trump-qatar-saudi-arabia.html?mcubz=0&_r=0) for Saudi Move Against Qatar. > > Fifty bucks sez the prick couldn’t locate Qatar on a map. Now we can expand upon this… “Shit For Brains Takes Credit for Saudi Move Against Qatar In a Crisis Triggered by Russian-generated Fake News Items Planted Two Weeks Ago.” > **[CNN Exclusive: US suspects Russian hackers planted fake news behind Qatar...](https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/russian-hackers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html)** > > US investigators believe Russian hackers breached Qatar’s state news agency and planted a fake news report that contributed to a crisis among the US’ closest Gulf allies, according to US officials briefed on the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6181 "2017-06-07T13:26:04Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The _Times_ article fails to mention [this little tidbit.](http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/who-is-christopher-wray-donald-trump-nominates-new-fbi-boss.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > He represented New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie after the Bridgegate Scandal, in which the governor’s allies were found guilty of causing lane closures at the George Washington Bridge in 2013 as political retaliation. Thanks for posting that. I figured there had to be something in the closet. I did a search on the law firm but only came up with a flip-flop it did on DOMA a few years back. They were going to represent the House in defending it, but then pulled out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=308) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=310)