# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 310
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6182 "2017-06-07T13:57:11Z")
Wray seems rather minimally qualified for the job. He spent about eight years as a federal prosecutor, and has been at a law firm since 2005. Wikipedia bio [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_A._Wray). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6183 "2017-06-07T14:02:21Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Wray seems rather minimally qualified for the job. He spent about eight years as a federal prosecutor, and has been at a law firm since 2005. Wikipedia bio [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_A._Wray). He’s from outside the FBI. No loyalty to Comey. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6184 "2017-06-07T14:14:57Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > This is not true IME. > > This comports with my experience: Republicans shun them both. They don’t want to talk about Bush/Cheney because they have nothing good to say and they don’t want to have to defend those 8 years either. > > Not all disapproval has to take the form of vigorous, public yelling. My main data point here is my father, but he still thinks GWB was the greatest guy ever to great, one third of his Republican Holy Trinity (along with Nixon and Saint Ronnie), and that the invasion of Iraq was totally justified because Saddam. And he’ll be happy to tell you how he feels about it. Granted, I don’t think most Pubbies are still _Nixon_ cheerleaders… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6185 "2017-06-07T14:18:55Z")
When someone like Wray takes a job like this, do they leave their job with the law firm? Give up their assigned parking space and key to the Executive Washroom? Do they keep their health insurance? Or do they go into some kind of “indefinite leave” limbo but their job is waiting when [del]Trump fires them[/del] they come back? Would that be a leave with or without pay? IOW will Wray still get benefits from the law firm while he is F.B.I. director, either direct (salary, bonus) or indirect (health coverage)? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6186 "2017-06-07T14:24:35Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > When someone like Wray takes a job like this, do they leave their job with the law firm? Give up their assigned parking space and key to the Executive Washroom? Do they keep their health insurance? Or do they go into some kind of “indefinite leave” limbo but their job is waiting when [del]Trump fires them[/del] they come back? Would that be a leave with or without pay? > > IOW will Wray still get benefits from the law firm while he is F.B.I. director, either direct (salary, bonus) or indirect (health coverage)? In the Trump administration, why wouldn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6187 "2017-06-07T14:55:36Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > In the Trump administration, why wouldn’t he? Hell, he’ll probably make a profit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6188 "2017-06-07T15:10:15Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > I really wonder how much of the holdup is incompetence and how much is people refusing to work under Trump. Good point, particularly given that he’s [just lost his acting Ambassador to China](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4574916/Top-U-S-diplomat-China-quits-Trump-climate-policy.html) (ostensibly over the withdrawal from the Paris accord). ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6189 "2017-06-07T15:28:51Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Hell, he’ll probably make a profit. “Hire my law firm or you’re getting investigated.” The Trump Administration is a disaster wrapped in a fiasco inside a clusterfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6190 "2017-06-07T15:54:24Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I think he’d struggle to find Washington on a quarter. As my dad was fond of saying, “he couldn’t spell ‘cat’ if you spotted him the C and the A.” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6191 "2017-06-07T16:17:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Funny how Qatar is now Deh Devuhl even though they aren’t on either of his travel bans. I’m confused now. Does Trump own property in Qatar or not…? Re: Christopher Wray. I understand that he’s Fay Wray’s grandson\*. If he inherited her screaming genes, they’ll come in awfully handy when he takes his directives from the short-fingered vulgarian. \*FAKE NEWS!!! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6192 "2017-06-07T16:30:04Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Wray seems rather minimally qualified for the job. He spent about eight years as a federal prosecutor, and has been at a law firm since 2005. Wikipedia bio [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_A._Wray). Maybe a huge ape can come and carry him off. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6193 "2017-06-07T16:31:18Z")
[Twitter users, blocked by Trump, cry censorship](https://www.yahoo.com/tech/twitter-users-blocked-trump-cry-200138165.html) “The tweeters — one a liberal activist, the other a cyclist who says he’s a registered Republican — have posted and retweeted plenty of complaints and jokes about Trump.” Any Dopers out there following the Twitter Head? Bonus points if you have sent him a disparaging tweet. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6194 "2017-06-07T16:33:35Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Off topic, but I haven’t heard Priebus’s name in a month or so. Did he actually manage to extricate his name from front lines of the Trumptanic? Or more likely did he finally snap and run around naked and raving until he was chained in the attic? They keep talking about shipping off to Greece to be Ambassador but the problem is they don’t have anyone else who wants to be Chief of Staff. No one wants to be involved in this insane administration. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6195 "2017-06-07T16:35:02Z")
I don’t do the Twitter thing, but every screenshot of Trump’s tweets that I’ve seen all seem to feature a long list of sarcastic insults in reply. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6196 "2017-06-07T17:22:46Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Wray seems rather minimally qualified for the job. He spent about eight years as a federal prosecutor, and has been at a law firm since 2005. Wikipedia bio [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_A._Wray). Word is that anyone with any ambition in life has turned down job offers in Trump’s White House. He may have to bring some Mexicans to do those jobs, if he can find some with zero dignity. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6197 "2017-06-07T17:23:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > IOW will Wray still get benefits from the law firm while he is F.B.I. director, either direct (salary, bonus) or indirect (health coverage)? Sounds like that would against the rules. Kinda screams ‘conflict of interest’ doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6198 "2017-06-07T17:29:31Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > As my dad was fond of saying, “he couldn’t spell ‘cat’ if you spotted him the C and the A.” To be fair those hard consonants can sound somewhat similar. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6199 "2017-06-07T18:01:36Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Sounds like that would against the rules. Kinda screams ‘conflict of interest’ doesn’t it? To those who are capable of hearing at that frequency. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6200 "2017-06-07T18:52:56Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Sounds like that would against the rules. Kinda screams ‘conflict of interest’ doesn’t it? That is exactly what I was thinking, but then I remembered whose administration we were talking about. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6201 "2017-06-07T18:59:12Z")
[Here](http://tu9srvbirvvtmtykd3d3lmludgvsbglnzw5jzs5zzw5hdguuz292.g00.msn.com/g00/2_d3d3Lm1zbi5jb20%3D_/TU9SRVBIRVVTMTYkaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW50ZWxsaWdlbmNlLnNlbmF0ZS5nb3Yvc2l0ZXMvZGVmYXVsdC9maWxlcy9kb2N1bWVudHMvb3MtamNvbWV5LTA2MDgxNy5wZGY%3D_%24/%24/%24/%24/%24/%24) is Comey’s statement in advance of his testimony tomorrow. What jumps out is that all that Trump cares about is that people know that he is not under investigation. It’s also amusing that Comey starts out referring very carefully to the “salacious allegations” about Trump in Russia but by the end he apparently got tired and just uses the word hookers. It’s an interesting read. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=309) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=311)