# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6202 "2017-06-07T19:03:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> [Twitter users, blocked by Trump, cry censorship](https://www.yahoo.com/tech/twitter-users-blocked-trump-cry-200138165.html)
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> “The tweeters — one a liberal activist, the other a cyclist who says he’s a registered Republican — have posted and retweeted plenty of complaints and jokes about Trump.”
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> Any Dopers out there following the Twitter Head? Bonus points if you have sent him a disparaging tweet.

I send him lots of disparaging tweets, and my Twitter handle is a derogatory anti-Trump name, and he hasn’t blocked me. Yet. But I suspect he never reads any responses to his tweets, especially since he gets thousands of them. However, some legal minds are claiming that if, as Sean Spicer said, Trump’s tweets are official Presidential pronouncements, then, if Trump is blocking people on Twitter so that they can’t see his tweets, this is unconstitutional.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6203 "2017-06-07T19:07:02Z")

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Christpher Wray’s law firm, King & Spalding’s, energy practice has represented clients working on deals involving Russia, including the state-owned Rosneft Oil Co. and Gazprom PJSC, according to the firm’s website. It says the firm also represented a large Russian oil company it does not identify that operates in Kazakhstan.  
[https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-07/trump-says-he-ll-nominate-christopher-wray-as-fbi-director](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-07/trump-says-he-ll-nominate-christopher-wray-as-fbi-director)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6204 "2017-06-07T19:13:39Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> [Here](http://tu9srvbirvvtmtykd3d3lmludgvsbglnzw5jzs5zzw5hdguuz292.g00.msn.com/g00/2_d3d3Lm1zbi5jb20%3D_/TU9SRVBIRVVTMTYkaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW50ZWxsaWdlbmNlLnNlbmF0ZS5nb3Yvc2l0ZXMvZGVmYXVsdC9maWxlcy9kb2N1bWVudHMvb3MtamNvbWV5LTA2MDgxNy5wZGY%3D_$/$/$/$/$/$) is Comey’s statement in advance of his testimony tomorrow.
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> What jumps out is that all that Trump cares about is that people know that he is not under investigation. It’s also amusing that Comey starts out referring very carefully to the “salacious allegations” about Trump in Russia but by the end he apparently got tired and just uses the word hookers. It’s an interesting read.

:eek:

That’s heavy stuff, man. How is it not obstruction?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6205 "2017-06-07T19:16:41Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> [Twitter users, blocked by Trump, cry censorship](https://www.yahoo.com/tech/twitter-users-blocked-trump-cry-200138165.html)
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> “The tweeters — one a liberal activist, the other a cyclist who says he’s a registered Republican — have posted and retweeted plenty of complaints and jokes about Trump.”
> 
> Any Dopers out there following the Twitter Head? Bonus points if you have sent him a disparaging tweet.

I follow Trump on Twitter and I’ve had a few negative things to say to him. Shit, here’s one:

> [@](#):
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> Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump May 30
> 
> Russian officials must be laughing at the U.S. & how a lame excuse for why the Dems lost the election has taken over the Fake News.  
> 39,821 replies 22,012 retweets 87,321 likes
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> JackMike‏ @JQBatty  
> Replying to @realDonaldTrump
> 
> Oh they’re laughing at the US alright. Nice work, ChuckleHead-in-Chief.  
> 9:24 AM - 30 May 2017

But I’m not verified. I have no special little blue check mark. I also have only 29 followers, maybe five or six of which are actual humans, so I think I’m safe.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6206 "2017-06-07T19:17:53Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> I’m confused now. Does Trump own property in Qatar or not…?

There is a fair chance that he owns property that he has no idea about where it is. I would not be surprised to hear that he owns property that he does not even know about. (Using “owns” loosely, as most of his properties are financed to the hilt and almost certainly belong in practical reality to someone else.)

> [@Bayard](#):
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> I think he’d struggle to find Washington on a quarter.

What if it was a quarter from Qatar?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6207 "2017-06-07T19:18:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Christpher Wray’s law firm, King & Spalding’s, energy practice has represented clients working on deals involving Russia, including the state-owned Rosneft Oil Co. and Gazprom PJSC, according to the firm’s website. It says the firm also represented a large Russian oil company it does not identify that operates in Kazakhstan.  
> [Trump Names Wray FBI Director Pick on Eve of Comey Hearing - Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-07/trump-says-he-ll-nominate-christopher-wray-as-fbi-director)

Also from your link:

> [@](#):
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> Wray’s choice is not the first time Trump has turned to King & Spalding. In January, the Trump Organization Inc., the president’s private business, chose partner Bobby Burchfield to serve as an independent ethics adviser.

> [@](#):
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> The firm’s legal work for the Trump family is among factors that make “us question his ability to lead the FBI,” said Faiz Shakir, national political director of the American Civil Liberties Union.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6208 "2017-06-07T19:28:14Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> But I’m not verified. I have no special little blue check mark. I also have only 29 followers, maybe five or six of which are actual humans, so I think I’m safe.

Are you sure about those actual humans? According to Eric Trump, [Democrats are not even people](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/eric-trump-hannity-democrats-obstruction/).

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6209 "2017-06-07T19:39:40Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> :eek:
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> That’s heavy stuff, man. How is it not obstruction?

I get the feeling that it’s obstruction, but Trump was too stupid to realize it – in a running theme of his administration so far. Reading that document, it’s clear to me that Trump fired Comey because he didn’t go on TeeVee and say, “Attention Americans. The FBI is not investigating Donald J Trump, millionaire. We now return you to your regular scheduled program.”

Trump brought up that bullshit about demanding loyalty from Comey, despite Comey trying desperately to educate the rube that it doesn’t fucking work that way. Then during their final interaction on April 11, Trump tells Comey (according to Comey), “I have been very loyal to you, very loyal; we had that thing you know.”

Less than a month later, Comey’s out on his ass.

Trump fired Comey for disloyalty. Obstruction of justice was just a fringe benefit.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6210 "2017-06-07T19:42:49Z")

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> [@rick kitchen](#):
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> christpher wray’s law firm, king & spalding’s, energy practice has represented clients working on deals involving russia, including the state-owned rosneft oil co. And gazprom pjsc, according to the firm’s website. It says the firm also represented a large russian oil company it does not identify that operates in kazakhstan.  
> [Trump Names Wray FBI Director Pick on Eve of Comey Hearing - Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-07/trump-says-he-ll-nominate-christopher-wray-as-fbi-director)

Товарищ, не хотим знать чего-нивудь об зтом. Пожалуйста, для добре АмеРоссии, будте тихо.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6211 "2017-06-07T19:43:48Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> What if it was a quarter from Qatar?

He’d definitely have to ask for help from Mr. Kotter then.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6212 "2017-06-07T19:48:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I send him lots of disparaging tweets, and my Twitter handle is a derogatory anti-Trump name, and he hasn’t blocked me. Yet. But I suspect he never reads any responses to his tweets, especially since he gets thousands of them. …l.

He couldn’t possibly read them, even a few of them, because [TOO MANY WORDS](http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab72/EveOz/exploding_head.jpg) (some of them big ones…)

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Товарищ, не хотим знать чего-нивудь об зтом. Пожалуйста, для добре АмеРоссии, будте тихо.

Google translate: “Comrade, we do not want to know anything about this. Please, for the good of Amerossia, be quiet.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6213 "2017-06-07T19:49:55Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Товарищ, не хотим знать чего-нивудь об зтом. Пожалуйста, для добре АмеРоссии, будте тихо.

+1

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6214 "2017-06-07T19:49:57Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Товарищ, не хотим знать чего-нивудь об зтом. Пожалуйста, для добре АмеРоссии, будте тихо.

Сосать мой член.

To be honest, that’s coming out of Google Translate, so I’m not sure on the grammar. The words themselves are correct, because I used them regularly with an ex. She was fun (and pretty stereotypical), even if she never taught me any Russian that wasn’t vulgar. I miss her…

Almost sounds like something we might hear on a tape, with Trump responding, “Yes, master.”

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6215 "2017-06-07T19:53:40Z")

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Throw a comrade a bone … what the hell does it say?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6216 "2017-06-07T19:55:26Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Сосать мой член.
> 
> …

Google translate: “Suck my dick.”

No wonder you miss her.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6217 "2017-06-07T20:03:11Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Reading that document, it’s clear to me that Trump fired Comey because he didn’t go on TeeVee and say, “Attention Americans. The FBI is not investigating Donald J Trump, millionaire. We now return you to your regular scheduled program.”

[This one?](http://dai.ly/x3uide7)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6218 "2017-06-07T20:03:36Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I get the feeling that it’s obstruction, but Trump was too stupid to realize it – in a running theme of his administration so far. Reading that document, it’s clear to me that Trump fired Comey because he didn’t go on TeeVee and say, “Attention Americans. The FBI is not investigating Donald J Trump, millionaire. We now return you to your regular scheduled program.”

That’s Billionaire, with a B, mister.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6219 "2017-06-07T20:04:54Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Google translate: “Suck my dick.”
> 
> No wonder you miss her.

In defense, she also taught me “Thank you.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6220 "2017-06-07T20:14:31Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Сосать мой член.
> 
> To be honest, that’s coming out of Google Translate, so I’m not sure on the grammar. The words themselves are correct, because I used them regularly with an ex. She was fun (and pretty stereotypical), even if she never taught me any Russian that wasn’t vulgar. I miss her…
> 
> Almost sounds like something we might hear on a tape, with Trump responding, “Yes, master.”

«сосать» looks like an infinitive to me. To make an imperative, it might be «сосай» or «соси». My vocabulary is very thin.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6221 "2017-06-07T20:23:27Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Trump brought up that bullshit about demanding loyalty from Comey, despite Comey trying desperately to educate the rube that it doesn’t fucking work that way. Then during their final interaction on April 11, Trump tells Comey (according to Comey), “I have been very loyal to you, very loyal; we had that thing you know.”

Trump’s obsession with loyalty borders is pathological in its extremity, if Comey’s statements are true, and there is no reason to think they are not.

“I demand your loyalty” is not a normal thing for a person to say. Even in private business, it’s not normal.

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