# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6222 "2017-06-07T20:27:27Z")

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It is in the fucking Mafia, though.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6223 "2017-06-07T20:27:41Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trump’s obsession with loyalty borders is pathological in its extremity, if Comey’s statements are true, and there is no reason to think they are not.
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> “I demand your loyalty” is not a normal thing for a person to say. Even in private business, it’s not normal.

It’s a perfectly normal thing in cults of personality, tho.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6224 "2017-06-07T20:34:10Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> “Hire my law firm or you’re getting investigated.”
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> The Trump Administration is a disaster wrapped in a fiasco inside a clusterfuck.

So you’re saying he’s the turd in the Turducken?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6225 "2017-06-07T20:39:05Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> That’s Billionaire, with a B, mister.

Yeah, if Comey called him a “millionaire,” Trump would be the one holding aloft someone’s bloody severed head.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6226 "2017-06-07T20:54:02Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> In defense, she also taught me “Thank you.”

Sounds like a lovely woman, at ease in any social situation.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> «сосать» looks like an infinitive to me. To make an imperative, it might be «сосай» or «соси». My vocabulary is very thin.

I’ll bet the Trumpster knows the right way to say it, although he couldn’t tell the imperative from a Cossack, or a Cossack from a hassock, for that matter.

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> So you’re saying he’s the turd in the Turducken?

Oh, baby–wins the thread! 😃 Bring this beauty out again when Thanksgiving rolls around. (Maybe we’ll have something to be thankful for by then.)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6227 "2017-06-07T21:01:41Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> It is in the fucking Mafia, though.

That is what I do suspect, but on a global scale. Trump can \*\*still \*\*be a naive git for thinking that all those European gangsters are his buddies, just because they are so nice to him.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6228 "2017-06-07T21:17:37Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trump’s obsession with loyalty borders is pathological in its extremity, if Comey’s statements are true, and there is no reason to think they are not.
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> “I demand your loyalty” is not a normal thing for a person to say. Even in private business, it’s not normal.

It’s normal for a tyrannical emperor tho.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6229 "2017-06-07T21:37:04Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> It is in the fucking Mafia, though.

This is exactly what I thought when I read, “I have been very loyal to you, very loyal; we had that thing you know.”

I could see that coming straight out of Tony Soprano’s mouth.

ETA: Fuck that, that’s a Paulie Walnuts kind of line.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6230 "2017-06-07T21:41:04Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> That’s Billionaire, with a B, mister.

[Does he own a mansion and a yacht?](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc94j_elmer-j-fudd-millionaire_news)

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6231 "2017-06-07T22:15:52Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> Are you sure about those actual humans? According to Eric Trump, [Democrats are not even people](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/eric-trump-hannity-democrats-obstruction/).

Not people for their obstructionism! For example, the travel ban. Trump steps on his own dick —\> Democratic obstruction! It is all so clear.

I wonder who else isn’t a person? Hmm, women, Mexicans and Muslims, no doubt. The poor. Blacks probably count as 3/5, amirite?

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6232 "2017-06-07T22:17:02Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> This is exactly what I thought when I read, “I have been very loyal to you, very loyal; we had that thing you know.”
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> I could see that coming straight out of Tony Soprano’s mouth.
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> ETA: Fuck that, that’s a Paulie Walnuts kind of line.

No,that’s pure Corleone, Marlon Brando Corleone.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6233 "2017-06-07T22:23:18Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> No,that’s pure Corleone, Marlon Brando Corleone.

I’ll do you this favor–let you keep your job; in return drop this Flynn thing and declare me innocent. That is the price of loyalty.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6234 "2017-06-07T22:49:57Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> That’s Billionaire, with a B, mister.

Cite? We only have his word on it. :dubious: :dubious: :dubious:

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6235 "2017-06-07T23:10:48Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> No,that’s pure Corleone, Marlon Brando Corleone.

“Our thing” in Italian = Cosa Nostra

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6236 "2017-06-07T23:18:21Z")

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Apparently Trump’s lawyer is hung up on the Steele dossier too. Trump brought it up with Comey after the initial meeting, and then Trump’s lawyer is harping on it really makes you think it’s true.

> <https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/872586486495031296>

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6237 "2017-06-07T23:50:55Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> That is what I do suspect, but on a global scale. Trump can \*\*still \*\*be a naive git for thinking that all those European gangsters are his buddies, just because they are so nice to him.

Such is the way with narcissists who are also stupid. Any one who knows how to feign loyality–no matter how blatantly ersatz their performance–can wrap Trump around their finger.

Trump would be a much better President if he was a true sociopath, because sociopaths aren’t motivated out of a desire to be adored and respected.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6238 "2017-06-08T04:00:00Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trump’s obsession with loyalty borders is pathological in its extremity, if Comey’s statements are true, and there is no reason to think they are not.
> 
> “I demand your loyalty” is not a normal thing for a person to say. Even in private business, it’s not normal.

Makes me wonder if he got a declaration of loyalty from Wray before naming him for the job.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6239 "2017-06-08T04:10:47Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trump’s obsession with loyalty borders is pathological in its extremity, if Comey’s statements are true, and there is no reason to think they are not.
> 
> “I demand your loyalty” is not a normal thing for a person to say. Even in private business, it’s not normal.

Congratulations 🙂 You just found out that Trump is not your usual President.

I am curious - is the new desperate hope for Democrats going to be that they will somehow manage to impeach Trump for his “obsession with loyalty”?

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6240 "2017-06-08T04:43:30Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> I am curious - is the new desperate hope for Democrats going to be that they will somehow manage to impeach Trump for his “obsession with loyalty”?

Nope, obstruction will do just fine. thanks for playing.

No one gives a fuck if the President wants loyalty. The issue is with “blind loyalty” or when loyalty runs counter to the constitution, to law, to democratic norms and into treasonous territory.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6241 "2017-06-08T04:45:11Z")

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That fucking piece of useless shit filled skin that passes itself off as President wants to charge stores for accepting food stamps

> **[Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/trump-wants-to-start-charging-stores-to-accept-food-stamps.html)**
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> The Office of Management and Budget says the fee would be assessed when stores sign up and would require renewal after five years.

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