# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 314
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6262 "2017-06-08T15:10:42Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Wait, how does that even work ? The government essentially hands out money to the poor, then takes it back from the stores. So that fucks the middleman, who obviously then either ups their own prices to cover the new tax or simply refuses to accept food stamps anymore and the poor are… right where they started, deep in the hole. Also everyone who _isn’t_ on food stamps gets fucked by the eventual price hike. > > Who does that plan \*not \*ultimately fuck ? I’m struggling to see a single upside here. Let’s not forget the military families on food stamps. Trump’s fucking them, too, yet again. See how he takes care of those he likes? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6263 "2017-06-08T15:14:10Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I’m not a Democrat. > > You don’t find it weird? It’s not interesting to note that the President of the United States is an extremely weird person? Anti-science, AGW-denying, paranoid conspiracy theorist is weird? Who knew? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6264 "2017-06-08T15:31:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I actually appreciate the service that **Okrahoma** provides. His posts keep me up to date on the daily talking points, dubious claims, deseperate spin and outright falsehoods in the right-wing press, and are (arguably) slightly less nauseating to read than the source material that “informs” his opinions. I can stay warm and snuggly in my reality-based bubble and still have a peephole through the looking glass. beautifully put I find just reading responses to okra is a big enough peephole and I don’t need to actually read his posts 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6265 "2017-06-08T15:32:56Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I know. Expecting loyalty in the den of snake that is DC is bizarre. I can’t understand you. It’s all just “Sssssssssss” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6266 "2017-06-08T15:37:17Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > You cannot possibly be this obtuse. However, he CAN be a fucking pathetic troll, who does not even believe the shit he’s peddling. He’s like the little brother who thinks he’s being “clever” by trying to hide and hang out with his older brother’s friends. And they all think he’s a pathetic little dickhead. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6267 "2017-06-08T16:01:58Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I know. Expecting loyalty in the den of snake that is DC is bizarre. Obviously you’ve never served your country. I took an oath, as Comey did, to uphold and defend the Constitution and the country, not to be loyal any particular individual. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6268 "2017-06-08T16:12:48Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Assuming you’re not just being willfully ignorant… He’s just pretending to misunderstand the point (as he does with many others). Which is how he trolls. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6269 "2017-06-08T16:36:25Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I know. Expecting loyalty in the den of snake that is DC is bizarre. Expecting the president not to be an incompetent orange ass-clown … also bizarre? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6270 "2017-06-08T16:39:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Obviously you’ve never served your country. I took an oath, as Comey did, to uphold and defend the Constitution and the country, not to be loyal any particular individual. Same here. But of couse Okrahoma, being a troll, sees honor as a spectator sport. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6271 "2017-06-08T16:41:30Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I know. Expecting loyalty in the den of snake that is DC is bizarre. Just the one, eh? ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6272 "2017-06-08T16:54:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Obviously you’ve never served your country. I took an oath, as Comey did, to uphold and defend the Constitution and the country, not to be loyal any particular individual. I would argue that exactly the last thing the director of the FBI should do is make a loyalty oath to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6273 "2017-06-08T17:02:02Z")
Stop giving air time to **Okrahoma**!! Do not engage. A whole page will go by with **nothing** added to the discussion. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6274 "2017-06-08T17:15:10Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I know. Expecting loyalty in the den of snake that is DC is bizarre. It is amusing the O troll promotes an idea of the behavior more seen in the third world dictatorships than in the modern democracies. Apparently he wants to promote the behavior of the third world to make America… something. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6275 "2017-06-08T17:30:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I actually appreciate the service that **Okrahoma** provides. His posts keep me up to date on the daily talking points, dubious claims, deseperate spin and outright falsehoods in the right-wing press, and are (arguably) slightly less nauseating to read than the source material that “informs” his opinions. I can stay warm and snuggly in my reality-based bubble and still have a peephole through the looking glass. I like to visit the Fox and Breitbart websites once every couple of days, and read the comments. The constant jaw-dropping is excellent exercise for a fifty-something dude and defends against developing wattles and double-chins. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6276 "2017-06-08T17:32:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Same here. But of couse Okrahoma, being a troll, sees honor as a spectator sport. He’s not a troll. I visit other political message message boards and what he writes is, unfortunately, very typical of what right wingers believe nowadays. At least what right wing message board commentators write. I’ve seen his talking points copied a hundred times. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6277 "2017-06-08T17:36:19Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I know. Expecting loyalty in the den of snake that is DC is bizarre. Demanding _personal_ loyalty instead of adherence to the rule of law from a top ranking law enforcement officer is an act unbecoming of the head of state of a democracy. It demonstrates Donald Trump is un-American and disloyal to the country he purports to serve. A true patriot is loyal to the nation, not a person who was hired to hold an office. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6278 "2017-06-08T17:37:39Z")
Strangely, the term “Trump Derangement Syndrome” appears to be more applicable to Trump’s supporters than his detractors these days. The sheer denial of even basic observable facts by the Trumpistas is astounding. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6279 "2017-06-08T17:39:47Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > He’s not a troll. I visit other political message message boards and what he writes is, unfortunately, very typical of what right wingers believe nowadays. Oh, I believe that he believes that shit. He trolls by pretending not to understand why people might be concerned about a President demanding “loyalty” from someone investigating his administration, or how that might constitute obstruction of justice. He trolls by pretending to be even stupider than he actually is, which is no mean feat. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6280 "2017-06-08T17:49:54Z")
> [@drm](#): > > I would argue that exactly the last thing the director of the FBI should do is make a loyalty oath to anyone. I would counter that the _last_ thing the director of the FBI should do is show up for a Senate hearing wearing pasties and a thong and do a pole-dance to “Cherry Pie” and “Push It,” but that loyalty oath thing is way up there. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6281 "2017-06-08T18:08:09Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I would counter that the _last_ thing the director of the FBI should do is show up for a Senate hearing wearing pasties and a thong and do a pole-dance to “Cherry Pie” and “Push It,” but that loyalty oath thing is way up there. What if the Director of the FBI was Charlotte McKinney? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=313) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=315)