# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 317
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6322 "2017-06-09T04:13:34Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > [Et voilà](http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/08/kellyanne-conway-completely-shuts-down-fox-news-over-questions-on-comey-tapes/). I got the wording a little off, but the content right. Awesome! Thanks, **Sunny**! I’m pretty sure that this gives the SIC and/or SC Mueller cause to subpoena the tapes, since her comments elevate things from “rumored to exist” to “likely do exist”. Of course, it would be easier if we had a modern-day Butterfield… ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6323 "2017-06-09T04:38:55Z")
Just wait for the morning tweet storm. It’s coming tomorrow, or the next day or the day after just as sure as shit I’ll be posting on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6324 "2017-06-09T05:58:04Z")
Christopher Wray’s bio page at his law firm has been edited to remove reference to his work with a company under investigation by Russian authorities The page from the Wayback Machine: [https://web.archive.org/web/20160711020017/http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray](https://web.archive.org/web/20160711020017/http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray) The current page: [http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray](http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray) The following line has been removed under the “Some of Mr. Wray’s recent representations since rejoining the firm include:” heading: "An energy company president in a criminal investigation by Russian authorities. " ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6325 "2017-06-09T06:01:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Christopher Wray’s bio page at his law firm has been edited to remove reference to his work with a company under investigation by Russian authorities > The page from the Wayback Machine: > [Christopher A Wray | People | King & Spalding](https://web.archive.org/web/20160711020017/http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray) > > The current page: > [http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray](http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray) > > The following line has been removed under the “Some of Mr. Wray’s recent representations since rejoining the firm include:” heading: > "An energy company president in a criminal investigation by Russian authorities. " Good find, **Rick**. Now, why would Mr. Wray do that… hmm… ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6326 "2017-06-09T06:07:53Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Awesome! Thanks, **Sunny**! > > I’m pretty sure that this gives the SIC and/or SC Mueller cause to subpoena the tapes, since her comments elevate things from “rumored to exist” to “likely do exist”. > > Of course, it would be easier if we had a modern-day Butterfield… To me, her comments don’t seem to add any evidence of tapes. And, after all, she is like the second or third biggest liar in the White House. Now that Prezident Tramp (which is the literal translation I get from a English to Russian translation website) has lawyered up, there will be even less truth (\<0) coming from the WH. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6327 "2017-06-09T06:10:23Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Christopher Wray’s bio page at his law firm has been edited to remove reference to his work with a company under investigation by Russian authorities > The page from the Wayback Machine: > [Christopher A Wray | People | King & Spalding](https://web.archive.org/web/20160711020017/http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray) > > The current page: > [http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray](http://kslaw.com/people/Christopher-Wray) > > The following line has been removed under the “Some of Mr. Wray’s recent representations since rejoining the firm include:” heading: > "An energy company president in a criminal investigation by Russian authorities. " Did you find that yourself? {gets ready to bow down} ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6328 "2017-06-09T06:13:44Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Did you find that yourself? > {gets ready to bow down} No, I can’t take the credit. I found it on the Snopes Fb Page. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6329 "2017-06-09T06:18:35Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > To me, her comments don’t seem to add any evidence of tapes. > > And, after all, she is like the second or third biggest liar in the White House. > > Now that Prezident Tramp (which is the literal translation I get from a English to Russian translation website) has lawyered up, there will be even less truth (\<0) coming from the WH. How do measure less than zero? ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6330 "2017-06-09T06:20:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > No, I can’t take the credit. I found it on the Snopes Fb Page. Well, then just a tip of the hat.😃 I would think that would be a little more newsworthy than Snopes. What an asshole (Trump) and the fucking Republicans for turning their heads away. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6331 "2017-06-09T06:26:21Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > How do measure less than zero? 0=truth WH statements\ **Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6332 "2017-06-09T06:48:58Z") > [@Little\_Pig](#): > > House passes sweeping legislation to roll back banking rules [(Dodd-Frank)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_reform). The bill also significantly curtails the powers of the [Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Financial_Protection_Bureau). > > I guess its time to bend over, yet again. :dubious: Again, I have to ask, who supports this shit? Who asked for this? What contingent of voters saw the 2008 crash and thought, “Yeah, let’s get rid of all the regulations in place to help prevent that from happening again?” Didn’t even have to read that far to get my answer: > [@Okrahoma](#): > > Ah another Trump’s campaign promise being fulfilled. Hope it gets through the Senate. Fucking morons. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6333 "2017-06-09T08:12:24Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Again, I have to ask, who supports this shit? Who asked for this? What contingent of voters saw the 2008 crash and thought, “Yeah, let’s get rid of all the regulations in place to help prevent that from happening again?” Make America Poor Again! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6334 "2017-06-09T08:52:38Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > How do measure less than zero? It depends on whether you’re using the Costello scale or the Easton-Ellis scale. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6335 "2017-06-09T11:46:19Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Ah another Trump’s campaign promise being fulfilled. Yup, he’s really draining the swamp. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6336 "2017-06-09T11:56:25Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Yup, he’s really draining the swamp. I answered a poll from his campaign before the election, and I continue to get daily emails from them. The one yesterday was all about the swamp. [QUOTE=Orange bloviating asshole in chief] Crotalus, WE MUST DRAIN THE SWAMP! Far too many unelected bureaucrats entrenched in our government push their own agenda and defy the will of the American people. We’ve already started cleaning house, but we MUST go deeper. [/QUOTE] Then there’s some bumper-sticker-like graphics, and it continues… > [@](#): > > Crotalus, we’re going up against a massive network of special interests who refuse to accept that our citizens have voted for a NEW path that puts America FIRST. > > They’re not going to go walk away without a fight. They’ll spend millions to silence us. They’ll use the Fake News as a weapon against us. They’ll do anything in their power to put the Silent Majority back into the shadows. > > That’s why I’m recruiting you to stand up to the special interests that want to sabotage us. > > Please contribute at least $1 to fight back, and I’ll send you an OFFICIAL DRAIN THE SWAMP sticker. > > Thank you, > > President Trump Signature Headshot > Donald J. Trump > President of the United States It’s kinda fun to see what the moron thinks is important on any given day. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6337 "2017-06-09T12:16:43Z")
The important thing about Dodd-Frank is that it prevents banks that are insured by the government from making certain kinds of high risk investments, like the ones that led to the crash and that ridiculous bailout back in 2008. With its repeal, bankers can make the riskiest bets and don’t have to worry about a thing- if they win, they keep the profits. If they lose and crash their bank, the government picks up the tab, screwing the public once again. That’s the kind of personal responsibility that the working poor really need to figure out 😛 But people like our friend **Okie** can put down their skull-and-upside-down-flag pom poms- the Senate doesn’t have the 60 votes they need to pass it. Next! ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6338 "2017-06-09T15:06:14Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Whoosh. You should be worried, **Okrahoma**. See, people here honestly believe that you really are this stupid. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6339 "2017-06-09T15:08:28Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > To me, her comments don’t seem to add any evidence of tapes. > And, after all, she is like the second or third biggest liar in the White House. > Now that Prezident Tramp (which is the literal translation I get from a English to Russian translation website) has lawyered up, there will be even less truth (\<0) coming from the WH. Lawrence O’Donnell opined last night that there are no tapes since Trump’s lawyer flat out denied the loyalty pledge. Of course, maybe there is no tape of that dinner meeting because it took place in the main White House instead of the West Wing and it would be hard to mike up the room. Then again, maybe Trump had a cell phone in his pocket recording the dinner and they are just that stupid to claim something a recording would contradict. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6340 "2017-06-09T15:29:45Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Lawrence O’Donnell opined last night that there are no tapes since Trump’s lawyer flat out denied the loyalty pledge. Of course, maybe there is no tape of that dinner meeting because it took place in the main White House instead of the West Wing and it would be hard to mike up the room. Then again, maybe Trump had a cell phone in his pocket recording the dinner and they are just that stupid to claim something a recording would contradict. Or trump’s lawyers listened to the tapes, and immediately destroyed them before they could be subpoenaed. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6341 "2017-06-09T15:43:21Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Or trump’s lawyers listened to the tapes, and immediately destroyed them before they could be subpoenaed. But, but…wouldn’t that be unethical? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=316) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=318)