# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6362 "2017-06-09T22:13:28Z")

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Predicted response from Trump: I never said there were tapes. I never said it. I didn’t. Look at the Tweet. Take a look at it. I never said there were tapes. This is fake news. Believe me.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6363 "2017-06-09T22:22:36Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Predicted response from Trump: I never said there were tapes. I never said it. I didn’t. Look at the Tweet. Take a look at it. I never said there were tapes. This is fake news. Believe me.

Agreed. Trump is trolling the entire country.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6364 "2017-06-09T22:38:03Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Predicted response from Trump: I never said there were tapes. I never said it. I didn’t. Look at the Tweet. Take a look at it. I never said there were tapes. This is fake news. Believe me.

That’s true. He said Comey better hope there are no “tapes.” And he did use quotation marks.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6365 "2017-06-09T22:40:03Z")

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Probably A Distraction Dept:

Melania Trump is finally moving into The White House!  
Lovelies with Regulars on the Beltway will So be crying tonight.  
They’re gonna _miss him_. 🙂

(Say, during the campaign, wasn’t he the guy who famously didn’t pay his contractor unless he was satisfied!?  
Not that “Trump: The Stiff Who Wasn’t” was the book Woodard and Bernstein wanted to write about him anyway.

Ya know, that might also explain his anger and frustration when he calls other men “leakers” too… 😛 )

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6366 "2017-06-09T22:43:52Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> That’s true. He said Comey better hope there are no “tapes.” And he did use quotation marks.

Wouldn’t the next question then be “What did Mr. Comey say that you believed would make him hope your conversation wasn’t being recorded, Trump?”

And I do hope whoever is questioning him does refer to him simply as ‘Trump’.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6367 "2017-06-09T22:49:07Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Wouldn’t the next question then be “What did Mr. Comey say that you believed would make him hope your conversation wasn’t being recorded, Trump?”
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> And I do hope whoever is questioning him does refer to him simply as ‘Trump’.

Heck, why not just ask him, “Well then, why did you tweet about “tapes” at all if they don’t exist? Were you trying to intimidate Mr. Comey?”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6368 "2017-06-09T22:51:15Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I also think that Trump was just making a baseless threat. But it will be hilarious if the tapes are subpoenaed and he has to either admit that they don’t exist or appear to be refusing to provide them.

Is a statement like that sufficient for a subpoena? I would also like that to happen.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6369 "2017-06-09T23:11:04Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> Ya know, that might also explain his anger and frustration when he calls other men “leakers” too… 😛 )

He says the same thing about Russian prostitutes.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6370 "2017-06-09T23:21:02Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> He says the same thing about Russian prostitutes.

that’s different - in that case, he ordered the leaks.

“The leak stops here, ladies (or gentleman)”

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6371 "2017-06-10T00:23:58Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Trump says [environmental reports](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/trump-says-environmental-reports-should-shrink-to-a-few-simple-pages/2017/06/09/ee63b5b8-4d31-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.15ebe8ac33ad) should shrink to ‘a few simple pages’.

TO: “PRESIDENT” DONALD J TRUMP  
FROM: ME  
RE: ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT

COAL IS BAD! MESSING UP ENVIRONMENT! NOT CREATING ANY JOBS! MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NATURAL GAS! YOU DON’T OWN STOCK IN ANY COAL MINES! COAL DESTROYS GOLF COURSES! SAD!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6372 "2017-06-10T00:28:57Z")

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_dying_

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6373 "2017-06-10T00:33:28Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Is a statement like that sufficient for a subpoena? I would also like that to happen.

The investigations could at least ask him officially if the White House had any tapes of the conversations with Comey. Then he would be on record that the tapes either exist or he was bullshitting.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6374 "2017-06-10T00:39:18Z")

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I remember John Stewart thanking the comedy gods when Trump first started running for election.

We just didn’t know it would come at this high a cost.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6375 "2017-06-10T00:39:48Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The investigations could at least ask him officially if the White House had any tapes of the conversations with Comey. Then he would be on record that the tapes either exist or he was bullshitting.

They’ve done so, apparently:

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Here we go. [Both the House and the Senate committees have requested the tapes](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/comey-tape-request-congress/index.html?adkey=bn). From the language in the article I can’t tell if this rises to the same level as a subpoena, but the fun has started. 😃

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6376 "2017-06-10T00:42:26Z")

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I can’t even listen to that man talk without wanting to punch something.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6377 "2017-06-10T00:44:04Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The investigations could at least ask him officially if the White House had any tapes of the conversations with Comey. Then he would be on record that the tapes either exist or he was bullshitting.

It looks like the [House and Senate committees have made requests](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/comey-tape-request-congress/index.html) for both the Comey memos and any audio recordings of conversations, if they exist. We’ll have to see what the response is regarding the tapes before any subpoenas might be considered.

Ninja’d by **Snowboarder**.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6378 "2017-06-10T00:47:04Z")

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Nah; credit for that one goes to **Sunny** (hence the quote).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6379 "2017-06-10T02:19:02Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Predicted response from Trump: I never said there were tapes. I never said it. I didn’t. Look at the Tweet. Take a look at it. I never said there were tapes. This is fake news. Believe me.

And yet, when asked today if there were any tapes, he refused to answer, just said there would be an answer upcoming. If there are no tapes, why not just say so?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6380 "2017-06-10T02:20:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And yet, when asked today if there were any tapes, he refused to answer, just said there would be an answer upcoming. If there are no tapes, why not just say so?

Because liberal media conspiracy! Haven’t you been following his Tweets?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6381 "2017-06-10T02:21:12Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> TO: “PRESIDENT” DONALD J TRUMP  
> FROM: ME  
> RE: ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT
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> COAL IS BAD! MESSING UP ENVIRONMENT! NOT CREATING ANY JOBS! MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NATURAL GAS! YOU DON’T OWN STOCK IN ANY COAL MINES! COAL DESTROYS GOLF COURSES! SAD!
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If you don’t include pictures, Trump won’t bother to look at it.

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