# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6382 "2017-06-10T02:21:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And yet, when asked today if there were any tapes, he refused to answer, just said **there would be an answer upcoming.** If there are no tapes, why not just say so?

It’s on the list. Right behind those amazing results from his investigators in Hawaii

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6383 "2017-06-10T02:45:20Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I can’t even listen to that man talk without wanting to punch something.

I think the last time I heard more than two seconds of his voice was October. How did we survive before that most wonderful invention, the mute button?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6384 "2017-06-10T02:55:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And yet, when asked today if there were any tapes, he refused to answer, just said there would be an answer upcoming. If there are no tapes, why not just say so?

Well, it’s obvious, isn’t it? The useless bastard is waiting to see which one his supporters will believe:

[list=a][li]there are no rapes and he was correct to insinuate there were but it doesn’t matter because trump,[/li][li]there are tapes and he’s correct to keep them from those meanies in congress.[/list][/li]  
Of course the fools will never accept that there are tapes and trump is criminal.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6385 "2017-06-10T03:00:22Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Well, it’s obvious, isn’t it? The useless bastard is waiting to see which one his supporters will believe:
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> [list=a][li]there are no rapes and he was correct to insinuate there were but it doesn’t matter because trump,[/li][li]there are tapes and he’s correct to keep them from those meanies in congress.[/list][/li]  
> Of course the fools will never accept that there are tapes and trump is criminal.

… or - there are no tapes, but he wouldn’t confirm it because he wants the media (and the Congress) all riled up about that, among other things.

It’s been more than a year and anti-Trumpers, both on the left and on the right, still haven’t learned that the man thrives on chaos and confusion and loves to sow it among his detractors.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6386 "2017-06-10T03:00:57Z")

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[quote=“Monty, post:6384, topic:774070”]

Well, it’s obvious, isn’t it? The useless bastard is waiting to see which one his supporters will believe:

[list=a][li]there are no rapes and he was correct to insinuate there were but it doesn’t matter because trump,[/list][/li][/QUOTE]  
I know this may be an unpopular position, but I hope there were no rapes.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6387 "2017-06-10T03:10:13Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … or - there are no tapes, but he wouldn’t confirm it because he wants the media (and the Congress) all riled up about that, among other things.
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> It’s been more than a year and anti-Trumpers, both on the left and on the right, still haven’t learned that the man thrives on chaos and confusion and loves to sow it among his detractors.

Why do you think it is a good idea for the President of the United States to love to sow chaos and confusion?

I honestly think the chaos and confusion comes from people expecting him to be either smart or at least respectful of the office. When we accept that there will be nothing but lies, stupidity, treason and corruption coming from the jerk, when can move on to limiting his damage.

There are multiple examples of all four of those accusations so STFU.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6388 "2017-06-10T03:15:24Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> Why do you think it is a good idea for the President of the United States to love to sow chaos and confusion?

… among his detractors.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6389 "2017-06-10T03:17:19Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I know this may be an unpopular position, but I hope there were no rapes.

I have heard that the US is a bit sore here and there.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6390 "2017-06-10T03:21:04Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … among his detractors.

His detractors seem like the least confused parties in this clusterfuck. And they are going about learning what they don’t know by due process. How about you?

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6391 "2017-06-10T03:24:32Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … among his detractors.

… and the rest of the world.

Except Russia

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6392 "2017-06-10T03:36:06Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> … and the rest of the world.
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> Except Russia

Russia may well be detractors, too, but Trump’s sloppy gobbling everything Putin has to give so fast and loud he can’t hear their insults.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6393 "2017-06-10T03:36:33Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I have heard that the US is a bit sore here and there.

“The beatings will continue until morale improves!”

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6394 "2017-06-10T04:55:46Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … or - there are no tapes, but he wouldn’t confirm it because he wants the media (and the Congress) all riled up about that, among other things.
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> It’s been more than a year and anti-Trumpers, both on the left and on the right, still haven’t learned that the man thrives on chaos and confusion and loves to sow it among his detractors.

Eat shit, you fucking asshole.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6395 "2017-06-10T07:31:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And yet, when asked today if there were any tapes, he refused to answer, just said there would be an answer upcoming. If there are no tapes, why not just say so?

He’s waiting for permission.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6396 "2017-06-10T07:41:47Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … among his detractors.

You’re right. It’s literally impossible for him to confuse his supporters more than you already are.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6397 "2017-06-10T08:03:05Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Eat shit, you fucking asshole.

Aside: How long is o’s trolling going to be permitted?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6398 "2017-06-10T08:32:51Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Aside: How long is o’s trolling going to be permitted?

He is not really trolling, he is just crapping on the thread with stale RW waste, rolling in it and shouting about how sweet and rosy he smells. Like, there is that nonsense about “sowing confusion” which is the absolute pinnacle of blind, flailing projection.

We have allowed **adaher** to soil SRIotD from time to time, but at least he is fairly reasonable. **o** appears to be a hydrocephalic toddler who will eventually step in it and get the boot, but we ought to bide our time and let him hang himself thoroughly.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6399 "2017-06-10T11:29:19Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> TO: “PRESIDENT” DONALD J TRUMP  
> FROM: ME  
> RE: ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT
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> COAL IS BAD! MESSING UP ENVIRONMENT! NOT CREATING ANY JOBS! MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NATURAL GAS! YOU DON’T OWN STOCK IN ANY COAL MINES! COAL DESTROYS GOLF COURSES! SAD!
> 
> \<This rest of this page left intentionally blank\>

Pretty soon, agencies will just tweet memos.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6400 "2017-06-10T11:36:18Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … or - there are no tapes, but he wouldn’t confirm it because he wants the media (and the Congress) all riled up about that, among other things.
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> It’s been more than a year and anti-Trumpers, both on the left and on the right, still haven’t learned that the man thrives on chaos and confusion and loves to sow it among his detractors.

Yes, but a year ago there was the hope among many on the political right that Trump might be malleable and useful. That hope is beginning to fade, and that was somewhat evident during the Comey hearing. You didn’t see too many GOP senators attacking Comey, instead only offering the occasional leading question in an attempt to frame his testimony a bit. But the Senate is increasingly not DJT’s friend, and the GOP is in danger of inexplicably losing de facto legislative control barely a half year into Trump’s term. The GOP should have already slam dunked several key pieces of legislation; instead they’re sputtering and if they don’t have anything to offer by the August recess, they’re going to have a hell of time explaining that to their voters.

And if you want to know what actually could be Tump’s impeachable offense, it could be summed up in two words: Jon Ossoff. He’s got a 7% lead in a recent poll, and if he somehow takes a congressional seat in what was once Newt Gingrich’s territory, you’re going to see Republicans running through the streets like it’s the original broadcast of Orson Welles’ War of the Worlds.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6401 "2017-06-10T12:16:14Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> … among his detractors.

For many, Trump’s sowing chaos and confusion is precisely _why_ he has detractors.

Just sayin’.

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