# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 325
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6482 "2017-06-11T22:50:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > OMG, that video is incredible! Is that really Vicente Fox? It sure looks like him. He’s hilarious, practical, wise, and right on the money. This video needs more play! When he brought out the “schematic, downloaded from the dark web” I totally lost it. “Diet Coke…by the way, isn’t working.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6483 "2017-06-12T01:15:31Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > The [British governmnet is denying](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-idUSKBN1920OC) that Trump’s visit has been delayed. Although the date for the visit isn’t officially set yet anyway. Yeah, Donald Trump has reportedly told Theresa May he will not make a state visit to Britain until there is support for it from the British public. Like that is ever going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6484 "2017-06-12T01:15:47Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > It seems that the Sceptered Isle will be [spared the cloddish footfalls of Trumpelthinskin](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-state-visit-to-britain-put-on-hold): > > (Translation: Theresa May has enough problems and told the dolt to bugger off before he makes things even worse for her.) From what I’ve heard, they don’t want the stupid bastard over there. I wish we had that choice too. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6485 "2017-06-12T01:17:31Z")
> [@RobDog](#): > > I can’t imagine for a minute that your dear leader is afraid of facing a few rain-sodden Brits. It’s more likely that the visit is being delayed in order to spend more time working out the complex security arrangements. Can you imagine how hard it’s going to be to negotiate the maze of Muslim no-go areas in our inner cities and the warren of ISIS guerrilla enclaves which so besmirch our countryside. Honestly, looking out of my window here it’s nothing but drizzle, sheep, and hot and cold running insurgents. Maybe he’s worried they may not kiss his fat ass, like he thinks he is entitled to? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6486 "2017-06-12T01:19:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Ha he hosted SNL yet? If not, he needs to! OMG he fucking ROCKS! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6487 "2017-06-12T02:12:58Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I say [27%](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crazification_factor). I think with 45 one must add in the anger factor as well. That would be, by my baseless estimate, 10%, bringing it back to the current polling average of 37%. So 27% batshit crazy plus 10% foaming at the mouth angry at the world. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6488 "2017-06-12T04:24:10Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > From what I’ve heard, they don’t want the stupid bastard over there. I wish we had that choice too. Is it too late to say that whole revolution thing was just a crazy misunderstanding? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6489 "2017-06-12T04:58:15Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Is it too late to say that whole revolution thing was just a crazy misunderstanding? I got the straight dope from a Brit _mate o’ moin_ (they just LOVE it when you try a bad cockney accent). Apparently, there is hope that the Blue States could rejoin the UK, or ‘create joinder’ with Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6490 "2017-06-12T05:05:41Z")
Didn’t we do something absurd like bring over 5,000 American security people when Obama visited? I can’t imagine the Great Orange Menace’s demands and the crushingly poor tact that would be used in making them. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6491 "2017-06-12T07:45:33Z")
Do we need a “The Trump Family: Another cluster. Now with Incest!” thread? Anyway, DC and MD are suing Prezident Tramp for breach of constitutional oath. The complaint is that he is " just too fucking corrupt". [WaPo article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-and-maryland-to-sue-president-trump-alleging-breach-of-constitutional-oath/2017/06/11/0059e1f0-4f19-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.5a918453dfb1) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6492 "2017-06-12T10:07:45Z")
I wonder if these 2 Attorneys General are about to get fired? “…Attorneys general for the District of Columbia and the state of Maryland say they will sue President Trump on Monday, alleging that he has violated anti-corruption clauses in the Constitution by accepting millions in payments and benefits from foreign governments since moving into the White House. … If a federal judge allows the case to proceed, Racine and Frosh say, one of the first steps will be to demand through the discovery process copies of Trump’s personal tax returns to gauge the extent of his foreign business dealings. That fight would most likely end up before the Supreme Court, the two said, with Trump’s attorneys having to defend why the returns should remain private. …” > **[D.C. and Maryland sue President Trump, alleging breach of constitutional oath](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-and-maryland-to-sue-president-trump-alleging-breach-of-constitutional-oath/2017/06/11/0059e1f0-4f19-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html)** > > The case centers on the “emoluments” clause of the Constitution, which bars the president from accepting gifts from foreign governments. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6493 "2017-06-12T10:11:19Z")
Can’t edit previous: Those guys work for their respective states, right? Trump can’t fire them? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6494 "2017-06-12T10:35:05Z")
Though noting that Trump said Friday he would answer Mueller’s questions under oath, Trump defense lawyer Sekulow [**declined to rule out ordering at some later date the firing of the widely praised Mueller**](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-comey-20170611-story.html), who preceded Comey as FBI director. What? Trump would fire Mueller? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6495 "2017-06-12T11:11:40Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Maybe he’s worried they may not kiss his fat ass, like he thinks he is entitled to? Timing, people, consider the timing. Tory government sheds its majority in a shock election pummelling and suddenly he’s not May’s best mate? Colour me surprised. The only question in my mind is if he used the “L” word directly to her face or retained enough shreds of civility to only think it. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6496 "2017-06-12T11:21:18Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I got the straight dope from a Brit _mate o’ moin_ (they just LOVE it when you try a bad cockney accent). Apparently, there is hope that the Blue States could rejoin the UK, or ‘create joinder’ with Canada. Fun fact: in Canada, blue is Conservative and red is Liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6497 "2017-06-12T11:24:56Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Didn’t we do something absurd like bring over 5,000 American security people when Obama visited? I can’t imagine the Great Orange Menace’s demands and the crushingly poor tact that would be used in making them. More like 200 security people brought by Obama on a trip to England. [Barack Obama state visit: intense security operation protecting US President](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8525010/Barack-Obama-state-visit-intense-security-operation-protecting-US-President.html) And The Beast. Mustn’t forget The Beast. [https://youtu.be/Xl25S7hy8mo](https://youtu.be/Xl25S7hy8mo) 5,000 was the estimate of how many Greek police were used in the trip to Greece. > **[Obama hails the importance of 'people power' in Greece](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3941510/Next-time-ll-just-tourist-foreign-visit-President-Barack-Obama-feels-hand-history-Greece.html)** > > Earlier President Barack Obama toured Greece's most famous ancient monument, the Acropolis, today (pictured) on the first leg of his final foreign tour as president. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6498 "2017-06-12T11:44:28Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Though noting that Trump said Friday he would answer Mueller’s questions under oath, Trump defense lawyer Sekulow [**declined to rule out ordering at some later date the firing of the widely praised Mueller**](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-comey-20170611-story.html), who preceded Comey as FBI director. > > What? Trump would fire Mueller? :eek: Well, he fired Comey, and the republicans seem insistent on letting him get away with it, so… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6499 "2017-06-12T12:10:46Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > What? Trump would fire Mueller? :eek: Yes. Nixon had his first special prosecutor fired. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6500 "2017-06-12T12:24:15Z")
I have to give Sarah Huckabee the benefit of the doubt - when my daughter gets a hold of my phone, long strings of emojis ensue as well. Fortunately she usually just sends them to my wife and not the entire country. > [@digs](#): > > I got the straight dope from a Brit _mate o’ moin_ (they just LOVE it when you try a bad cockney accent). Apparently, there is hope that the Blue States could rejoin the UK, or ‘create joinder’ with Canada. Macron’s already started putting the case for all the ‘experts’ and other smart, reasonable people to move to France. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6501 "2017-06-12T12:55:09Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Though noting that Trump said Friday he would answer Mueller’s questions under oath, Trump defense lawyer Sekulow [**declined to rule out ordering at some later date the firing of the widely praised Mueller**](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-comey-20170611-story.html), who preceded Comey as FBI director. > > What? Trump would fire Mueller? :eek: It’s just a matter of time. Of course he’ll fire Mueller. [QUOTE=digs] I got the straight dope from a Brit mate o’ moin (they just LOVE it when you try a bad cockney accent). Apparently, there is hope that the Blue States could rejoin the UK, or ‘create joinder’ with Canada. [/QUOTE] It’s a cute idea until you think of how incredibly stupid it is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=324) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=326)