# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6522 "2017-06-12T17:16:32Z")

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I’m sure the GOP is thrilled that they can now be seen as the party of Big Government.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6523 "2017-06-12T17:33:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> 11th Commandment: The poor shalt not get away with it.

This is [Prosperity Theology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology) at its finest (bold added):

> [@](#):
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> Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel, the health and wealth gospel, or the gospel of success) [A] is a religious belief among some Christians, who hold that financial blessing and physical well-being are always the will of God for them, and that **faith, positive speech, and donations to religious causes will increase one’s material wealth**. It is based on interpretations of the Bible that are traditional to Judaism (with respect to the Hebrew Bible),[1] though less so in Christianity. Prosperity theology views the Bible as a contract between God and humans:\*\* if humans have faith in God, he will deliver security and prosperity.\*\*
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> The doctrine emphasizes the importance of personal empowerment, proposing that it is God’s will for his people to be happy. The atonement (reconciliation with God) is interpreted to include the alleviation of \*\*sickness and poverty, which are viewed as curses to be broken by faith. \*\*This is believed to be achieved through donations of money, visualization, and positive confession…

“If you’re poor and sick, obviously you’re doing something wrong, and you have clearly brought your troubles on yourself. God likes us, and the proof is that we have money and good health. If God doesn’t like you, why should we?”

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6524 "2017-06-12T17:39:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Precipitatong is my new favorite word. I’m not sure exactly what it means yet, but I like it even better than covfefe.

Do you have any precipatatong for my covfefe? Just a sprinkle will do.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6525 "2017-06-12T18:03:26Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’m sure the GOP is thrilled that they can now be seen as the party of Big Government.

Today’s craven GOP doesn’t care if it’s seen as the party of Big Pedophilia so long as their pockets are bulging w/ cash. They’ve all checked their ethics and morals at the door in favor of the expediency of saying what their paying audience wants to hear at that moment.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6526 "2017-06-12T18:12:34Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> This is [Prosperity Theology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology) at its finest (bold added):  
> “If you’re poor and sick, obviously you’re doing something wrong, and you have clearly brought your troubles on yourself. God likes us, and the proof is that we have money and good health. If God doesn’t like you, why should we?”

The current mayor of San Antonio, Ivy Taylor, just lost her reelection bid by, in part, expressing similar views.

[http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/news\_columnists/gilbert\_garcia/article/Ivy-Taylor-and-the-broken-people-controversy-11098687.php](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/news_columnists/gilbert_garcia/article/Ivy-Taylor-and-the-broken-people-controversy-11098687.php)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6527 "2017-06-12T18:16:09Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The current mayor of San Antonio, Ivy Taylor, just lost her reelection bid by, in part, expressing similar views.
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> [http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/news\_columnists/gilbert\_garcia/article/Ivy-Taylor-and-the-broken-people-controversy-11098687.php](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/news_columnists/gilbert_garcia/article/Ivy-Taylor-and-the-broken-people-controversy-11098687.php)

She really blew it. Like Hillary Clinton’s “deplorables,” these words will haunt her, probably forever There are so many other ways she could have expressed the same idea without hitting so many hot buttons.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6528 "2017-06-12T19:00:48Z")

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Sarah Huckabee tweeted yesterday, about the rights marches that were part of the Gay Pride marches, “One demands safe spaces when they get offended. The other risks life and limb to keep those spaces safe.”  
Next to side by side pictures of a man wearing a pink pussy hat and a soldier in combat.

I asked her if she really thought that none of the people marching for their rights had ever risked their lives and limbs, or is she just an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6529 "2017-06-12T19:10:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Sarah Huckabee tweeted yesterday, about the rights marches that were part of the Gay Pride marches, “One demands safe spaces when they get offended. The other risks life and limb to keep those spaces safe.”  
> Next to side by side pictures of a man wearing a pink pussy hat and a soldier in combat.
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> I asked her if she really thought that none of the people marching for their rights had ever risked their lives and limbs, or is she just an idiot.

The party she and her father belong to does not allow nuance to be acknowledged. Hit hard and loud enough so it doesn’t matter the message, only the resulting emotional response from donors or voters.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6530 "2017-06-12T19:15:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Sarah Huckabee tweeted yesterday, about the rights marches that were part of the Gay Pride marches, “One demands safe spaces when they get offended. The other risks life and limb to keep those spaces safe.”  
> Next to side by side pictures of a man wearing a pink pussy hat and a soldier in combat.

At least she didn’t tweet it today - the 1 yr anniversary of a mass murder at a gay night club.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6531 "2017-06-12T19:28:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Sarah Huckabee tweeted yesterday, about the rights marches that were part of the Gay Pride marches, “One demands safe spaces when they get offended. The other risks life and limb to keep those spaces safe.”  
> Next to side by side pictures of a man wearing a pink pussy hat and a soldier in combat.
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> I asked her if she really thought that none of the people marching for their rights had ever risked their lives and limbs, or is she just an idiot.

Maybe she just finds everyone else wanting when she compares them to her dad’s brilliant military career.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6532 "2017-06-12T19:34:47Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Preet Bharara, a prominent former US attorney ousted by President Donald Trump, said Sunday that he reported to the Justice Department efforts by the president to “cultivate some kind of relationship” with him, describing a series of phone calls from Trump that made him increasingly uncomfortable.

Jeez, what a snowflake. You call a good friend at 3 AM and order him to come piss on you, and suddenly it’s all “I’m uncomfortable !”

[QUOTE=running coach]  
11th Commandment: The poor shalt not get away with it.   
[/QUOTE]

“For the one who has will be given more, and he will have more than enough. But the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. And throw that worthless slave into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”  
God’s a bit of a cunt, you see.

[QUOTE=ThelmaLou]  
The atonement (reconciliation with God) is interpreted to include the alleviation of \*\*sickness and poverty \*\*[…] This is believed to be achieved through donations of money  
[/QUOTE]

Ah, yes, religious logic at its finest. “You’re poor ? Piss away your money and she’ll be all right !”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6533 "2017-06-12T20:18:54Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Mike Pence …  
> What A “Christian” Prick.

There’s lots of different kinds of Christians. Pence is of the “Fuck all those people Jesus wanted to help, especially if they’re poor and or gay” Christians.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6534 "2017-06-12T20:36:02Z")

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Trump Invites His Employees [To Praise Him](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-employees-praise-him-173902550.html) During Cabinet Meeting. Trump then went around the table and called on each official to deliver brief remarks, beginning with Vice President Mike Pence. The bizarre scene that ensued resembled something out of North Korea, \*\*\* as each Cabinet official attempted to outdo one another with nice statements about their boss\*\*\*.

Sick Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6535 "2017-06-12T20:46:27Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Trump Invites His Employees [To Praise Him](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-employees-praise-him-173902550.html) During Cabinet Meeting. Trump then went around the table and called on each official to deliver brief remarks, beginning with Vice President Mike Pence. The bizarre scene that ensued resembled something out of North Korea, \*\*\* as each Cabinet official attempted to outdo one another with nice statements about their boss\*\*\*.
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> Sick Fuck.

Whose benefit was humiliating power play that for, d’you suppose? Putin? US voters?  
And how many times do you think Cheetolini will rewatch it?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6536 "2017-06-12T20:54:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Trump Invites His Employees [To Praise Him](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-employees-praise-him-173902550.html) During Cabinet Meeting. Trump then went around the table and called on each official to deliver brief remarks, beginning with Vice President Mike Pence. The bizarre scene that ensued resembled something out of North Korea, \*\*\* as each Cabinet official attempted to outdo one another with nice statements about their boss\*\*\*.
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> Sick Fuck.

Yes, that was truly revolting. (The Chuck Schumer video parody was a good counter, though.)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6537 "2017-06-12T21:06:50Z")

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Remember when conservative media and politicians used to lambaste Obama for his “big ego”?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6538 "2017-06-12T21:56:54Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> Whose benefit was humiliating power play that for, d’you suppose? Putin? US voters?  
> And how many times do you think Cheetolini will rewatch it?

Hopefully enough times so that he can recognize Mike Pence when he’s _sitting right across from him!_ Also, Tex Trackerman doesn’t look amused. His, “What the fuck just happened and how did I get here?” Betsy DeVos, on the other hand, seems to be eagerly awaiting the biblical Apocalypse, Steve Bannon is cluthing his “Megadeaths in Megabucks” binger, and Jared Kushner appears to be thinking about what snack they’ll serve following afternoon nap. Ben Carson, on the other hand, seems to be surprising alert. Maybe this meeting was scheduled for the hour of the day he isn’t in a somnolencent daze. Or maybe he was really excited that someone finally found his luggage.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6539 "2017-06-12T21:57:21Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> Whose benefit was humiliating power play that for, d’you suppose? Putin? US voters?  
> And how many times do you think Cheetolini will rewatch it?

…while playing with himself.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6540 "2017-06-12T22:03:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Trump Invites His Employees [To Praise Him](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-employees-praise-him-173902550.html) During Cabinet Meeting. Trump then went around the table and called on each official to deliver brief remarks, beginning with Vice President Mike Pence. The bizarre scene that ensued resembled something out of North Korea, \*\*\* as each Cabinet official attempted to outdo one another with nice statements about their boss\*\*\*.
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> Sick Fuck.

I woke this morning to a replay of this being broadcast on my radio.

It was truly something of wonder. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6541 "2017-06-12T22:11:37Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yes, that was truly revolting. (The Chuck Schumer video parody was a good counter, though.)

> <https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/874327317748883456/video/1>

That one there?

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