# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 331
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6602 "2017-06-13T21:24:28Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > It seems as if Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the 3rd is suffering from senile dementia. Has anyone bothered to ask him about that? Yes, but he has no recollection of the question. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6603 "2017-06-13T21:35:31Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Given that Trump has never been convicted, he’s committed no crime in that regard. Just like no one murdered Jack the Ripper’s victims because no one was ever caught? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6604 "2017-06-13T21:49:19Z")
Mr. Poe. Please pick up the white courtesy phone. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6605 "2017-06-13T22:17:57Z")
Bob Inglis, former Republican Representative from SC, and as someone directly involved in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, someone who can’t be dismissed as a left wing stooge, wrote an editorial pretty much stating that the Republican party [has lost its goddamn mind.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-helped-draft-clintons-impeachment-articles-the-charges-against-trump-are-more-serious/2017/06/13/a15f819e-4fab-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?utm_term=.c54f848c25f0) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6606 "2017-06-13T22:29:27Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Bob Inglis, former Republican Representative from SC, and as someone directly involved in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, someone who can’t be dismissed as a left wing stooge, wrote an editorial pretty much stating that the Republican party [has lost its goddamn mind.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-helped-draft-clintons-impeachment-articles-the-charges-against-trump-are-more-serious/2017/06/13/a15f819e-4fab-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?utm_term=.c54f848c25f0) He put his finger right on it here. From that link: > [@](#): > > …With Fox and others clogging the media landscape, Republicans’ political futures now rest on feeding the passions and proclivities of Trump’s hard-core base — the 39 percent of the electorate that likes him and responds to his code of grievance. That 39 percent is the dominant force in Republican primaries today. Cross them and you die… ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6607 "2017-06-13T22:38:36Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Seriously, now y’all are breathlessly awaiting Sessions’ testimony? Aren’t you tired of having that football yanked away? Yanked away. As usual. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6608 "2017-06-13T22:44:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Yanked away. As usual. There’s nothing that could happen that you wouldn’t troll away with this kind of answer. No matter what happens, you’ll have a trolling quip like this ready. Troll away, troll. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6609 "2017-06-13T22:46:35Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Yanked away. As usual. Sessions is a Trump loyalist I never expected him to fall on his sword or otherwise implicate his master. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6610 "2017-06-13T22:48:46Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Mr. Poe. Please pick up the white courtesy phone. No, the _white_ phone. > [@Okrahoma](#): > > Yanked away. As usual. Go do your yanking somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6611 "2017-06-13T22:54:29Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Sessions is a Trump loyalist I never expected him to fall on his sword or otherwise implicate his master. That makes his testimony easier to refute. He says he never had any dealings with the Russians. So all you need is evidence of one dealing to prove him a liar. That’s the problem with the all or nothing loyalty approach. Easy to be hoisted by your own petards. ---
**Author:** ![DirtyHippy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtyhippy/32/107_2.png) [@DirtyHippy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirtyHippy)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6612 "2017-06-13T23:50:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yes, but he has no recollection of the question. He should take notes. Maybe Comey could help him with that ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6613 "2017-06-14T00:19:03Z")
Probably not enough meat on this for a thread, but I didn’t know where the hell else to plunk this, so: A kinda feel-good newsy thing for Nevada? > **[Nevada May Become First State To Offer Medicaid To All, Regardless Of Income](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/06/13/532783189/nevada-may-become-first-state-to-offer-medicaid-to-all-regardless-of-income)** > > The Nevada legislature has passed a bill that would allow anyone without health insurance in the state to buy into the Medicaid program, regardless of income. It's awaiting the governor's signature. > [@](#): > > With the uncertainty and mixed messages coming from our current federal administration in regard to health care and health care accessibility, there is an absolute need for states to become more reliant on providing insurance options to its citizens," said Assemblyman Mike Sprinkle, who sponsored the bill. > > Under the proposal, Medicaid coverage would be offered alongside commercial insurance on Nevada’s state-run health exchange starting in 2019. As long as Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval doesn’t fucking veto this (by Friday at the latest), it’s a go. Not sure what’s holding back Cali or NY, here. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6614 "2017-06-14T00:27:03Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Probably not enough meat on this for a thread, but I didn’t know where the hell else to plunk this, so: > > A kinda feel-good newsy thing for Nevada? > > [Nevada's Medicaid-For-All Bill Awaits Action From Republican Governor : Shots - Health News : NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/06/13/532783189/nevada-may-become-first-state-to-offer-medicaid-to-all-regardless-of-income) > > As long as Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval doesn’t fucking veto this (by Friday at the latest), it’s a go. Not sure what’s holding back Cali or NY, here. What about the claw-back provisions in Medicaid? How do they work under this legislation? I read the article and I don’t see this mentioned. Were it my state, I’d be a lot more comfortable if it was MediCARE being offered alongside regular insurance options – not MediCAID. The claw-back provisions can end up taking everything you own. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6615 "2017-06-14T00:29:07Z")
It might be time to start a single payer omnibus thread. Since we are going to see several states at least consider enacting this, I think it would be helpful. I’ll and get it set up either later tonight or tomorrow. If you want to beat me to it, feel free. 🙂 (IMHO or MPIMS do you think?) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6616 "2017-06-14T00:33:41Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Probably not enough meat on this for a thread, but I didn’t know where the hell else to plunk this, so: > > A kinda feel-good newsy thing for Nevada? > > [Nevada's Medicaid-For-All Bill Awaits Action From Republican Governor : Shots - Health News : NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/06/13/532783189/nevada-may-become-first-state-to-offer-medicaid-to-all-regardless-of-income) > > As long as Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval doesn’t fucking veto this (by Friday at the latest), it’s a go. Not sure what’s holding back Cali or NY, here. I voted for Gov. Sandoval twice; he’s a good guy. I think he’ll sign this even tho he doesn’t have to in order for it to become a law.[ > [@Brian Sandoval](#): > > I will review the final language this week and work with healthcare experts to evaluate how this would impact the current market, potential state costs and risks, make a determination if this is needed, and whether or not this is something that can be effectively implemented. ]([Nevada moves closer to a landmark Medicaid-for-all healthcare model](http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nevada-health-coverage-20170607-story.html))That’s what he said last week when the bill made its way to his desk. But as long as he doesn’t veto it by the 16th, it becomes law. Myself, I’d prefer that he endorse the law by signing it and I’m pretty sure he will. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6617 "2017-06-14T00:48:05Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > It might be time to start a single payer omnibus thread. Since we are going to see several states at least consider enacting this, I think it would be helpful. I’ll and get it set up either later tonight or tomorrow. If you want to beat me to it, feel free. 🙂 (IMHO or MPIMS do you think?) Good idea. (Didn’t I see a similar thread thereabouts? Search is acting all wonky on me again.) I’m guessing there’d be mainly opinions on this, so - IMHO? There’s definitely a lot more mundane things out there than universal health care. I’m gonna wait for search to, um, get its fucking shit together, and locate the thread, before I try starting a new one, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6618 "2017-06-14T00:51:21Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > It might be time to start a single payer omnibus thread. Since we are going to see several states at least consider enacting this, I think it would be helpful. I’ll and get it set up either later tonight or tomorrow. If you want to beat me to it, feel free. 🙂 (IMHO or MPIMS do you think?) Good idear. 🙂 I’ll leave it to the elder statespersons on the board to start the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6619 "2017-06-14T01:16:47Z")
> [@How Can I Improve My Grammar?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-improve-my-grammar/131551/4): > > **[Man Ravaged by Amnesia Somehow Able to Hold Down Demanding Legal Job](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/man-ravaged-by-amnesia-somehow-able-to-hold-down-demanding-legal-job)** > > [http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Borowitz-Jeff-Sessions-Hearing-1200.jpg](http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Borowitz-Jeff-Sessions-Hearing-1200.jpg) > > WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—An Alabama man whose brain was ravaged by severe amnesia is somehow able to function in an extremely demanding legal job, leading neurologists reported on Tuesday. > > The man, whom neurologists are calling a “medical mystery,” has performed highly exacting tasks in one of the country’s top legal positions despite having virtually no short- or long-term memory. > > Dr. Davis Logsdon, the chairman of the neurology department at the University of Minnesota Medical School, said that the Alabaman’s brain “defies explanation.” > > “In all the medical literature, we have never seen an example of someone capable of holding down such a high-powered job while having no memory whatsoever of people he met, things he said, places he has been, or thoughts he has had,” Logsdon said. “It’s the stuff of science fiction.” > > Logsdon said that his team of neurologists was studying video of the man in the hopes of understanding the paradoxical functioning of his brain, but Logsdon acknowledged that such a task was challenging. “After listening to him talk for hours, your own brain starts to hurt,” he said. > > [RIGHT]([New Yorker](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/man-ravaged-by-amnesia-somehow-able-to-hold-down-demanding-legal-job))[/RIGHT] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6620 "2017-06-14T01:21:20Z")
It’s not nothing. Everybody now has seen Sessions lie under oath. It’s and old lie, and almost certainly not provable, but he has now taken an oath and stood behind that ridiculous story about how in March, when it was perfectly convenient for Trump, he suddenly decided Comey had to go for being mean to Hillary in October, after praising it in November. And now that he has absolutely proven he has some dirt on his hands, by lying under oath, they have to wonder how much there is. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6621 "2017-06-14T01:29:27Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Good idear. 🙂 I’ll leave it to the elder statespersons on the board to start the thread. GD I think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=330) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=332)